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    ^^ Yeah, it involves a revelation of a long-past event that Tyrion didn't know the truth of.

    I read the scene in the book last night after the finale, and it definitely changes his attitude toward Jaime and refocuses things on Tywin. But Shae's character had also been changed a lot between book and show, and so it's possible that factored into the change as well.
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    Quick question: Which book would be the continuation of season 4? I can't wait till April. Thx in advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephano View Post
    Quick question: Which book would be the continuation of season 4? I can't wait till April. Thx in advance.
    They've kind of jumbled everything up a bit. There's also a decent amount of stuff left with Jon Snow in the third book that they haven't covered yet.. it's pretty important, too.

    Also, Book 4 takes place after the events of this season... but... so does the first half or three quarters of Book 5. They focus on different characters. I think Book 5 is a much, much better read than Book 4. The problem with book 4 is that most of the book is devoted to two characters, and most of their storylines are repetitive until the end of the book. The other stuff in Book 4 is actually quite good, it's just that the focus of the book is so uninteresting.

    You could probably start Book 4. Read the first Cersei and Brienne chapter, decide if it interests you. If it doesn't, just skim or even skip those until about three quarters of the way through. The problem is that most of those chapters hit the same notes over and over, so it got kind of tedious to read. They showed signs of understanding the difficulty with those chapters in the way they handled Brienne on the show, so I'm not that worried about the next season.
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    Nightmare Scenario:

    HBO goes under.
    Game of Thrones is canceled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Nightmare Scenario:

    HBO goes under.
    Game of Thrones is canceled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    She should have killed the Hound. That would have been the nice thing to do.
    I thought they were developing some affection for each other at some points, especially when she wanted to mend his wound and he opened up to her about some things in his past. It made me unhappy and uneasy that she didn't kill him. I am not sure I understand why? Was it supposed to be revenge for something? Is it because he wanted to fuck her pretty sister and not her? haha. I realize she wanted to kill him before, but killing him on her own.. would have been nicer. Leaving him to die like that was brutal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    They've kind of jumbled everything up a bit. There's also a decent amount of stuff left with Jon Snow in the third book that they haven't covered yet.. it's pretty important, too.

    Also, Book 4 takes place after the events of this season... but... so does the first half or three quarters of Book 5. They focus on different characters. I think Book 5 is a much, much better read than Book 4. The problem with book 4 is that most of the book is devoted to two characters, and most of their storylines are repetitive until the end of the book. The other stuff in Book 4 is actually quite good, it's just that the focus of the book is so uninteresting.

    You could probably start Book 4. Read the first Cersei and Brienne chapter, decide if it interests you. If it doesn't, just skim or even skip those until about three quarters of the way through. The problem is that most of those chapters hit the same notes over and over, so it got kind of tedious to read. They showed signs of understanding the difficulty with those chapters in the way they handled Brienne on the show, so I'm not that worried about the next season.
    Thank you a lot! I've just noticed that they split up the German translations into 2 books each. Book 4 would be book 7 in this case.
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    Oh, I wanted to mention too -- that whole sequence of Tyrion's escape, when he goes to find his father ... they're playing variations of The Rains of Castamere in the background. It's just ironic. Lannister justice prevails once again, so to speak. They always pay their debts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Animal View Post
    I thought they were developing some affection for each other at some points, especially when she wanted to mend his wound and he opened up to her about some things in his past. It made me unhappy and uneasy that she didn't kill him. I am not sure I understand why? Was it supposed to be revenge for something? Is it because he wanted to fuck her pretty sister and not her? haha. I realize she wanted to kill him before, but killing him on her own.. would have been nicer. Leaving him to die like that was brutal.
    I have read a number of reviews today, as well as this thread, and no one is agreement on Arya's motives for her choices in that scene. I think that's pretty fascinating. Some think she is punishing him, some think she's showing kindness, some thinks there is affection, some think she's indifferent and it's a sign of her losing her humanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I have read a number of reviews today, as well as this thread, and no one is agreement on Arya's motives for her choices in that scene. I think that's pretty fascinating. Some think she is punishing him, some think she's showing kindness, some thinks there is affection, some think she's indifferent and it's a sign of her losing her humanity.
    They think she was showing kindness? Why would someone think that???? He was begging her to kill him.

    I didn't think she was indifferent, personally. If she was indifferent, she would have just done what he asked. It seemed to me that she did it to be cruel, the way she taunted him with it.

    I wonder if she would have killed him if he wasn't goading her about her sister though. That was a stupid move on his part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animal View Post
    They think she was showing kindness? Why would someone think that???? He was begging her to kill him.

    I didn't think she was indifferent, personally. If she was indifferent, she would have just done what he asked. It seemed to me that she did it to be cruel, the way she taunted him with it.
    That's what I thought.

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