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    I totally identify with Jack. He's trying to do right thing, he's pushing people to achieve things, he's got integrity and he's principled. Jack's my favorite.

    Jack is stereotypically ENTJ imo.

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    I would probably say Jack too, with Sayid a close second. Jack's leadership is admirable but he's too much of a pussy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    I would probably say Jack too, with Sayid a close second. Jack's leadership is admirable but he's too much of a pussy.
    What??! Did you see the actor during his "Party of Five" days? Now that was a wimpy, 90's man style character.......Jack is certainly a departure from that, a big improvement in my mind, a more masculine/strong male character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chatoyer View Post
    What??! Did you see the actor during his "Party of Five" days? Now that was a wimpy, 90's man style character.......Jack is certainly a departure from that, a big improvement in my mind, a more masculine/strong male character.
    Definitely agree. I think he is a strong male character. He does have a sensitive side... but it makes him likeable and human... and ultimately makes him a more believable character

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick View Post
    Definitely agree. I think he is a strong male character. He does have a sensitive side... but it makes him likeable and human... and ultimately makes him a more believable character
    As someone I would have to spend time with, I would not like being with Jack (he's too driven and assertive and would drive me nuts)... but I think he is a GREAT character on the show. He's palpably real to me, and complex; and I love watching him deal with stress, how he becomes more aggressive when he does not know what to do and sometimes ends up doing the wrong things.

    As a writer, I love it when other writers let the characters be true to themselves rather than forcing them to behave in more "proper/good" ways. Jack is very human and fallible... gloriously mortal. I love it.

    (Overall, Matthew Fox and the rest of the cast -- for mostly being unknowns -- are very talented actors.)

    ....and yeah, he's real cute too.
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    I don't completely identify with any of them, of course... but I'm thinking Sun for some reason. Does that make sense?

    Did any one else notice that John Locke is also the name of an English Philosopher who wrote "Two Treatises on Government"? There's also a character named Rousseau, who happened to be a French philosophe. I think the creator of this show has a marked interest in the Enlightenment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    I don't completely identify with any of them, of course... but I'm thinking Sun for some reason. Does that make sense?
    Sure why not


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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    I don't completely identify with any of them, of course... but I'm thinking Sun for some reason. Does that make sense?

    Did any one else notice that John Locke is also the name of an English Philosopher who wrote "Two Treatises on Government"? There's also a character named Rousseau, who happened to be a French philosophe. I think the creator of this show has a marked interest in the Enlightenment...
    I bet Tom Hobbes would have handled things a little differently. Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by athenian200 View Post
    I don't completely identify with any of them, of course... but I'm thinking Sun for some reason. Does that make sense?

    Did any one else notice that John Locke is also the name of an English Philosopher who wrote "Two Treatises on Government"? There's also a character named Rousseau, who happened to be a French philosophe. I think the creator of this show has a marked interest in the Enlightenment...
    Yes, it's purposeful.

    Rousseau's character is the "woman of the wild" -- the noble savage. Locke was picked for reasons defining his character. And there is Ben Linus (leader of the Others) -- Linus was a statesmen or philosopher, wasn't he?

    (And with Locke, note the large battle between destiny and free will that occurred with him in the first two seasons. There are many philosophical concepts that are being allowed to play out in Lost.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    Jack's leadership is admirable but he's too much of a pussy.
    FWIW, Metamorphosis, I get you here. Jack seems to me like he's a slave to some unhealthy standards of behavior that run counter to his enlightened self-interest. It's been a while since I saw the show so I don't remember exactly why, but I do know I pegged him as over-assuming of responsibility and under-enjoying himself... Maybe because he didn't go for Kate?

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