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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    Simon doesn't seem E to me, he seems I. He seems shy to me and kinda oblivious to how he seems publicly (e.g. feeling up his man boobs or gnawing on pens) when he's not publicly criticizing people. I was going to guess INTJ.
    I didn't say he had good Fe. I said he's an ENTJ.


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    Does anyone else think Jason's an ISFP?

    What about Amanda - the biker/nurse - ISFJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Does anyone else think Jason's an ISFP?

    What about Amanda - the biker/nurse - ISFJ?
    Yes, I think Jason's an ISFP.

    As for Amanda - ISFJ seems really unlikely to me, given how she interacts on the show. I see little Fe with how she interacts with the judges or other contestants, or in her interviews, and she seems pretty distant/hard-edged (she doesn't even make the effort to utilize Fe). I guess I would have guessed INxx, and specifically INTx. My reason for thinking INTx is that I don't think she's a dominant Fi, which gets rid of INFP, and she lacks the Fe for INFJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Does anyone else think Jason's an ISFP?

    What about Amanda - the biker/nurse - ISFJ?
    I'm still having trouble remembering the contestants' names!

    But obviously the nurse is hard to forget - I'd wager she's ISTP. Why? Here are my clues:

    - rides a motorcycle. not just that but a Harley... clearly a connoisseur of sensation.
    - nursing is a hands-on helping profession. but she doesn't come across as warm and cuddly.
    - presents as strong silent type. under stress, prefers to show no emotion in her face.
    - prefers earthy, sensory-type tunes and delivery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anii View Post
    I'm still having trouble remembering the contestants' names!
    Jason is the guy in dreads who often does acoustic guitar stuff.

    Amanda is the rocker chick with platinum streaks in her black hair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anii View Post
    I'm still having trouble remembering the contestants' names!

    But obviously the nurse is hard to forget - I'd wager she's ISTP. Why? Here are my clues:

    - rides a motorcycle. not just that but a Harley... clearly a connoisseur of sensation.
    - nursing is a hands-on helping profession. but she doesn't come across as warm and cuddly.
    - presents as strong silent type. under stress, prefers to show no emotion in her face.
    - prefers earthy, sensory-type tunes and delivery.
    Hmm.
    That's interesting.
    Would you be willing to watch her interview video and let's talk about it some more?

    American Idol - Videos - Introducing Amanda

    Amanda Overmyer - Top 24 Contestants - American Idol

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    Quote Originally Posted by cascademn View Post
    Jason is the guy in dreads who often does acoustic guitar stuff.
    Oh, he's one of my favorites. He doesn't seem to have much strength to his voice, but he's got that organic quality I like. Kinda like Sufjan Stevens or Sam Beam of Iron and Wine. Both are successful *soft-spoken* vocalists. Here's hoping Jason makes it just the way he is.

    As to his type, I'd guess I*FP. His reticence with interviews could be attributed to Sensing (actions speak louder than words) or Intuition (tongue-tied under stress, or feels pressure to fit "square", non-linear thought processing peg into a "round", linear Q&A hole). Maybe we'll get more evidence either way as the weeks go on.

    Back to soft-spoken singers... here're videos of both Iron and Wine: YouTube - Naked As We Came - Iron and Wine

    and Sufjan Stevens: YouTube - Holland
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    Quote Originally Posted by anii View Post
    - rides a motorcycle. not just that but a Harley... clearly a connoisseur of sensation.
    And a connoisseur of quality.
    - nursing is a hands-on helping profession. but she doesn't come across as warm and cuddly.
    Serving people is very S, but I would say she is more SJ than SP.
    - presents as strong silent type. under stress, prefers to show no emotion in her face.
    Definitely. A T thing, I think.
    - prefers earthy, sensory-type tunes and delivery
    That could be just what she's limited to because of her range.

    Would you be willing to watch her interview video and maybe read her interview, and let's talk about it some more?

    American Idol - Videos - Introducing Amanda

    Amanda Overmyer - Top 24 Contestants - American Idol

    While watching the video
    I started thinking xxTJ after the first minute.
    I started to wonder if she's an INTJ.
    Then she said, "unrealistic". That's not a word INTJs use, as far as I know.
    She's been doing the responsible thing - education, mortgage, etc.
    INTJs tend to avoid responsibility.
    Also, a couple of weeks ago she said she loves to reads biographies.

    "What has been your favorite "Idol" moment in the past six seasons?
    The only one that stands out in my mind is the recent Asian guy that wrote the "Brothers" song and Simon hugged him while Paula signed."

    That is a weird answer.
    This is what she's referring to:
    YouTube - i am your brother-american idol
    He was the contestant who wouldn't stop singing.
    (I picked a short clip, but there are some longer ones.)
    I guess she remembers it because it's hilarious, but that's a really short term memory, as well.

    She's just not relaxed enough to be an SP.
    I think she might be an ISTJ.

    I haven't known enough ISFJ females to know if she is one of them,
    but because she reads biographies, and I usually think of that as an F thing, I was thinking ISFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anii View Post
    Oh, he's one of my favorites. He doesn't seem to have much strength to his voice, but he's got that organic quality I like. Kinda like Sufjan Stevens or Sam Beam of Iron and Wine. Both are successful *soft-spoken* vocalists. Here's hoping Jason makes it just the way he is.

    As to his type, I'd guess I*FP. His reticence with interviews could be attributed to Sensing (actions speak louder than words) or Intuition (tongue-tied under stress, or feels pressure to fit "square", non-linear thought processing peg into a "round", linear Q&A hole). Maybe we'll get more evidence either way as the weeks go on.

    Back to soft-spoken singers... here're videos of both Iron and Wine: YouTube - Naked As We Came - Iron and Wine

    and Sufjan Stevens: YouTube - Holland
    I like Jason a lot. He's definitely got a career ahead of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Would you be willing to watch her interview video and let's talk about it some more?
    Yes but I need some time to do so. It's a slow site and it stalled on me once already.

    I'm not wedded to ISTP - it's just my guess based on what I've seen so far.

    Later...

    Okay, I watched American Idol - Videos - Introducing Amanda and these are the things that stuck out to me:

    - "cooking"
    - "football"
    - "unrealistic"
    - "medical equipment sales"
    - "business management"

    Also she said she likes "Daughtry", whom I'd never heard of. So I watched his video and heard him say he is a service manager at an auto dealership. He also has the same matter-of-fact delivery as Amanda.

    My guess is, they are both STs.

    In her interview, Amanda strikes me as more E than I. She emphasized that while her degree is in nursing (helping) she's actually doing sales (enterprising) and enjoys it.

    So my revised guess is: ESTP. This might also explain her looks - the ESTPs I've known both personally and in the media (Madonna esp.) all seem to spend alot of time and energy on their looks and grooming. Which is not necessarily a J thing.

    She seems to like speed, sensation, and sensuality (cooking, singing, riding a harley) - this seems very SP to me.

    She's matter-of-fact and business-minded - this seems ST.

    If she doesn't seem relaxed, that could be I at play. ISTPs sometimes seem like they are "on the spot" when questioned.

    Or maybe at 23 she's trying to appear more feminine than she is for this mainstream program, so she is self-censoring what she says because she doesn't want to come across as too hard or crass.
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