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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Even my political news shows are covering Lebron now. Can't blame the media, if it didn't get huge ratings, they wouldn't be doing it. Blame sports fans.

    I think he's definitely going to Miami. It's his best chance at an NBA title, and that's the one thing he doesn't have yet.
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    If he goes to Miami, I predict that next year's Heat will be one of the all-time most disappointing teams. You'd have the best 1-2-3 in the league, but the next nine guys are going to suck. Miami barely has anyone else under contract, and they'll be picking among scraps to fill out the roster. Look at the title teams of the last few years. Role players like Artest, Posey, P.J. Brown, Fisher, Horry, Prince, Haslem and Kapono are usually the difference.

    If one of these three guys gets hurt, they'd be in serious trouble. Even if no one gets hurt, the minutes these guys will have to log are going to be tremendous because you can't sit them. That makes for a fatigued team come playoff time. And you don't have any role players like the guys above to bail you out. Finally, if LeBron goes to Miami, they will be the prohibitive favorites. Anything less than a title will be seen as a failure. You can't underestimate that kind of pressure, especially when Wade will be the only guy on the team that's ever won anything. My initial wild guess is a 50-win team that fails to make the Finals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Oh yes I can, and will. The news media as a commercial entertainment outlet is a dysfunctional concept.
    I'm watching the Dylan Ratigan show, and what do I get? A segment about Lebron.

    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    If he goes to Miami, I predict that next year's Heat will be one of the all-time most disappointing teams. You'd have the best 1-2-3 in the league, but the next nine guys are going to suck. Miami barely has anyone else under contract, and they'll be picking among scraps to fill out the roster. Look at the title teams of the last few years. Role players like Artest, Posey, P.J. Brown, Fisher, Horry, Prince, Haslem and Kapono are usually the difference.

    If one of these three guys gets hurt, they'd be in serious trouble. Even if no one gets hurt, the minutes these guys will have to log are going to be tremendous because you can't sit them. That makes for a fatigued team come playoff time. And you don't have any role players like the guys above to bail you out. Finally, if LeBron goes to Miami, they will be the prohibitive favorites. Anything less than a title will be seen as a failure. You can't underestimate that kind of pressure, especially when Wade will be the only guy on the team that's ever won anything. My initial wild guess is a 50-win team that fails to make the Finals.
    Valid concern. But I think unfounded. I see this as a better version of what happened when the Celtics first created the current roster. All three are younger than said roster and still in or approaching their primes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kendoiwan View Post
    Valid concern. But I think unfounded. I see this as a better version of what happened when the Celtics first created the current roster. All three are younger than said roster and still in or approaching their primes.
    I agree with this. Of course if Miami has those 3 guys and don't win it all, it will be considered an epic failure, but I believe those 3 guys - as young as they all are - are better than Boston's Big 3. Boston's Big 3 had 3 guys who were top 20-ish in the league, all of which were on the downswing of their careers. KG is no longer top 20-ish, Ray Allen probably isn't either and Pierce is probably borderline top 20-ish.

    On the other hand, LeBron is currently the most talented player in the world. Maybe not the most well-rounded, savvy, or mentally tough, but these are things still in progress. Talent wise, he's the best in the world. Wade is somewhere between #2 and #5 in the world, and Bosh is top 20-ish. Difference here is that these guys will be this good for years to come. Like I said in an earlier post, you could put any 9 NBA players on the roster and they'll be VERY GOOD. If you can get decent contributions from 2 or 3 of those teammates, they will be DOMINANT.

    And as far as those guys logging huge minutes, the coach wouldn't need to play them a ton of minutes in the regular season. Give them their rest throughout the season - let the other 9 guys play - that's what they get paid to do. They'll grow into their roles. Then, come playoff time, you play the Big 3 as necessary. With those 3 guys, they could win multiple titles in the next 5-8 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    I agree with this. Of course if Miami has those 3 guys and don't win it all, it will be considered an epic failure, but I believe those 3 guys - as young as they all are - are better than Boston's Big 3. Boston's Big 3 had 3 guys who were top 20-ish in the league, all of which were on the downswing of their careers. KG is no longer top 20-ish, Ray Allen probably isn't either and Pierce is probably borderline top 20-ish.
    Are those guys better than Boston's big three? Sure. The problem is that Miami won't have anyone on the roster as good as Rondo or Big Baby or even Sheed when he's right. They're also better than LA's top three of Kobe, Pau and Odom. But they don't have a Bynum or a Fisher or an Artest. And the NBA isn't a 3-on-3 league. As great as those 3 guys are, NBA teams are good enough to exploit weaknesses. And if Miami goes this route, they will have weaknesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    Are those guys better than Boston's big three? Sure. The problem is that Miami won't have anyone on the roster as good as Rondo or Big Baby or even Sheed when he's right. They're also better than LA's top three of Kobe, Pau and Odom. But they don't have a Bynum or a Fisher or an Artest. And the NBA isn't a 3-on-3 league. As great as those 3 guys are, NBA teams are good enough to exploit weaknesses. And if Miami goes this route, they will have weaknesses.
    Yeah, I see your point. You have to have a roster without too many holes in it. A "complete" roster. I don't know what Miami's financial situation would end up looking like after signing all 3, but you'd think they would be able to sign a couple other decent players on the cheap to sort of round out the roster. They won't be able to afford another all-star, but I know the Lakers got Blake for like 4 million/year. He's a "formidable" player. He can at least "hold his own" out on the court. I would have rather had Ridnour - and he still may be available for the $3 million/year he was ready to accept from the Lakers. So, Miami should be able to add another 1 or 2 decent pieces to the puzzle, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    So, Miami should be able to add another 1 or 2 decent pieces to the puzzle, no?
    Well, that remains to be seen. Right now, Miami only has two players actually under contract...Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers. It's not like they already have any second bananas. And they'll be picking through the trash nobody else wanted to fill out the roster. Here's an excerpt from a story online that helps illustrate the fix they're in:

    To say the signing of all three players would limit the Heat's financial options to add other is an understatement, and the only two players on the roster currently under contract will likely be needed to make the deal work.

    The Toronto Raptors will likely trade Bosh to the Heat in exchange for Mario Chalmers and Michael Beasley, and once they are gone the team will consist of Wade, James, Bosh, and draft picks Dexter Pittman and Da'Sean Butler.


    Assuming that Pittman and Butler (both 2nd rounders, Butler with a shredded knee) basically contribute nothing this coming season, you have essentially a three-man team. Spots 4-12 on the roster are going to have to come from the clearance rack of free agency unless they mortgage a future 1st rounder - and with the expectations of this team, that's not going to be worth a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    Well, that remains to be seen. Right now, Miami only has two players actually under contract...Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers. It's not like they already have any second bananas. And they'll be picking through the trash nobody else wanted to fill out the roster. Here's an excerpt from a story online that helps illustrate the fix they're in:

    To say the signing of all three players would limit the Heat's financial options to add other is an understatement, and the only two players on the roster currently under contract will likely be needed to make the deal work.

    The Toronto Raptors will likely trade Bosh to the Heat in exchange for Mario Chalmers and Michael Beasley, and once they are gone the team will consist of Wade, James, Bosh, and draft picks Dexter Pittman and Da'Sean Butler.


    Assuming that Pittman and Butler (both 2nd rounders, Butler with a shredded knee) basically contribute nothing this coming season, you have essentially a three-man team. Spots 4-12 on the roster are going to have to come from the clearance rack of free agency unless they mortgage a future 1st rounder - and with the expectations of this team, that's not going to be worth a lot.
    A report on ESPN just said that if they keep Chalmers and Beasley, along with their 3 (?) 2nd round picks - that would put them at 8 players, then they would fill out the roster with cheap free agents willing to take less for the opportunity to get a ring. They would definitely be over the cap, but other teams are as well. Their financial situation isn't pretty - that's for sure - but, I still think they can make this work. Beasley is no chump. The report said they may ask him to take a slight pay cut too.

    Who knows?! It'll be interesting to see how it all goes down.
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    Well, LeBron's just become my least favorite player for the time being.

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