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    That's like saying 1960's US is the same as current day.
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    When people see some things as good,
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    The whole '60s and '70s thing was the entire point of the thread. I was thinking that her vision may have just been very dated. But then I see people saying that this is "extremely relevant today" and I'm just very confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    The whole '60s and '70s thing was the entire point of the thread. I was thinking that her vision may have just been very dated. But then I see people saying that this is "extremely relevant today" and I'm just very confused.
    Hmmm... sounds kinda like a post from earlier in this thread...

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    You're probably just beyond its style of feminism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Hmmm... sounds kinda like a post from earlier in this thread...
    *Takes flyswatter and swats Z*

    Shhh for a sec ...

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    ^ Aha - what IS the societal issue, as you see it?
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    The one in the book or the one today?
    Both. As YOU see them.
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    "When people see some things as beautiful,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I just said that she doesn't seem to know what she's talking about.
    Well, you've been talking about something you didn't take the time to read for 7 pages.
    Guess that makes you equal, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    That's like saying 1960's US is the same as current day.
    Well, to be accurate, we are actually have more freedom of speech now.

    (Yeah, went to Berkeley, the birthplace of the 60s free speech movement.

    I kinda know about this stuff...)


    Our nation continuously strives to perfect the vision expressed in The Constitution, and, to be quite honest, has been pretty damn successful at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvyak View Post
    Guess that makes you equal, eh?
    Well, we are equal in one regard:

    That we have the right to talk about the other without perfect information.

    It does not, however, make us equal in another regard:

    I seem to be accurate in my interpretation of her vision; her vision, however, does not seem to be accurate about my nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post

    Both. As YOU see them.
    The issue now is money, as it always has been.

    The issue in the book has nothing to do with money. This is strange and foreign.
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    I seem to be accurate in my interpretation of her vision; her vision, however, does not seem to be accurate about my nation.
    Zarathustra - my heavens, that smacks of arrogance, right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    Zarathustra - my heavens, that smacks of arrogance, right there.
    Why thank you, my dear.

    But I must add, it smacks not only of arrogance, but accuracy as well.


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