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    Default Rush Poker: An Ne Dream

    Anyone who plays or follows online poker should by now have heard of Full Tilt's new innovation, Rush Poker, which allows faster play than ever by moving players to a new table with new opponents immediately after they finish acting on any hand. Even if it's not your turn yet, if you already know you don't want to play your hand, you just hit the "Quick Fold" button and you're immediately moved to a new table with a new hand and new opponents.

    This effectively triples the number of hands per hour that you can play, which could mean big things for the win rates of winning players.

    As for strategy adjustments, the most obvious implication is that you can't collect data on people's play tendencies and use it against them because every hand is the first (and last) hand of a new table with new opponents.

    I want to talk about why this is extraordinary for Ne players like myself with extremely short attention spans.

    Suddenly the game is no longer about collecting detailed statistics and developing highly specific reads on particular players--suddenly the game is about looking at the entire player pool as a group and making plays that would work best against whatever the average player at this moment is doing. In Rush Poker, table image effectively no longer exists.

    This is a HUGE difference and I'm already doing dramatically better than I ever did in traditional games. I've always enjoyed poker but I've never been more than a marginal winner online (except for back in the days of Party Poker when there were hundreds of terrible players running around everywhere handing out free money), largely because I get bored and let Ne start making "out of the box" plays that end up biting me in the ass--namely, getting bored from waiting too long for a decent hand and making overly ambitious bluffs that screw me out of long term profit.

    I don't like watching individual players for hours on end to pick out their particular play idiosyncracies--I like playing a huge number of hands and making a lot of very fast decisions, and always having something to do.

    The traditional way of dealing with the boredom is to play multiple tables simultaneously--but the problem with this is that it divides your attention and ruins your ability to watch individual players for notable play tendencies. People who are only playing one or two tables will beat you because they're paying more attention to your play patterns than you are to theirs.

    Not so with Rush Poker! Suddenly I can conceptualize the game in terms of an entire group of opponents and respond according to what would work best against the average opponent, rather than having to worry about detail-oriented statistics regarding the play tendencies of particular opponents.

    In short, this format effectively eliminates the Si-oriented problems in my game and accentuates Ne's strengths--being able to multitask and make a lot of quick decisions in a very short time based on generalized information about a group as a whole instead of specific, highly detailed information about individual players, and adapting on the fly to changing trends in the overall player pool based on patterns in this highly generalized information.

    Can it get any more Ne?

    It's incredible. Has anyone else tried this yet? Do you like it better or worse than traditional online poker, and do you think this has any correlation with your psychological type?
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Can it get any more Ne?

    It's incredible. Has anyone else tried this yet? Do you like it better or worse than traditional online poker, and do you think this has any correlation with your psychological type?
    I just gave it a try this morning. Wow, and when I didn't think I could make money any faster in this game! Awesome. I will try to record how my profit rate improved but it was pretty drastic. They should have called it "Quickfold" poker.

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    well, if there is a typological self-selection mechanism going on here, you DO realize the real "Ne-cokeheads" will be highly attracted to this game over the traditional style, ?? assuming your own fascination is representative of course

    IOW, if this is an ENTPs wet dream, you might have better results at the traditional tables due to the population differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozflubber View Post
    well, if there is a typological self-selection mechanism going on here, you DO realize the real "Ne-cokeheads" will be highly attracted to this game over the traditional style, ?? assuming your own fascination is representative of course

    IOW, if this is an ENTPs wet dream, you might have better results at the traditional tables due to the population differences.
    What do you mean about population differences?
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    He means that it will attract others of your talent in the same way as it appeals to them, making the game more competitive, meaning more than Ne-power will be needed.
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    yeah, thanks amarg basically, I'm saying many others just like you will be thinking the same. So others who prefer to think/react fast will be your opponents, rather than the standard population demographics of the traditional tables.

    I'm not saying it's NOT a better choice for you, I'm just saying you'll probably be facing more ENTPs

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    True, but other ENTPs are n00bs, so I shall pwn them mightily.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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    here's my right-brain contribution.

    [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbMp-TYTyWs&feature=related]rush - limelight[/youtube]
    we fukin won boys

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    as for my left brain contribution:

    this format is highly accessible to bots. it's only a matter of time before flesh and blood players won't be able to win.
    it'll take a while for them to be perfected, so get your face-time in now.
    we fukin won boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocap View Post
    as for my left brain contribution:

    this format is highly accessible to bots. it's only a matter of time before flesh and blood players won't be able to win.
    it'll take a while for them to be perfected, so get your face-time in now.
    Why?

    It's possible you could make a better-than-the-average-player bot, but the good players will exploit the fact that some proportion of players are bots and win more often.

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