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    I like Bono, and I like U2, but I do wish he'd dial back the preaching about world issues by about 25% at his shows. It was kind of irritating to want to rock out and have to sit through a 10 minute piece on Burma.

    I saw him on Jonathan Ross the other day, and he did admit that he's easy to take shots at because he can be "annoying." It's nice to see him have a sense of humor about the whole thing.

    I'm torn about people like Bono and Angelina Jolie. I admire that they're using their celebrity for something substantial, but I also get tired of hearing about it. They're entertainers, so it would be lovely if they would just entertain every once in a while instead of "raising awareness" 24/7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    Well, I think I meant both "how come" and "is it justified." Sorry if that wasn't crystal clear.
    Hey, I knew what you meant . I was just provoking a little. As for the "is it justified" part. Every individual is justified to feel the way he or she wants to. You cannot put a judgement on how somebody feels, because the simple fact of the matter is, that the person has a reason to feel that way. If there was no reason, or 'justification' for feeling a particular way about something, we wouldn't feel that way.
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    Seems like a nice enough guy and is trying to help poor people.

    Some people compare themselves to others. When its a guy like Bono who has $, talent, looks, social contacts and on top of that helps the poor and starving...well some people compare themselves to that a they look like little whinny shits in comparison. Because hey don't like to seeing themselves as whinny little shits so they blame or wank on Bono (or some other self perpetuating whinny shitbag thing). Many of them are the same type of are people who are haters of Buddha and Jesus and the type.

    Since bagging on religion is passé Bono is kinda a sacred cow where I think South Park/Rollins are using just for the shock effect of dogging on a sacred cow who isn't too taboo...just taboo enough for the shock intended...medium/medium light, “don’t go there girl” shock value.

    People gotta learn to find their own value not by comparing themselves with celebrities but comparing themselves with where they are now, where they were and where they are going and how they are gonna get to be the person they want to be.
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    People will always be hated for trying to do something good. Because there are always insecure people out there that feel like they have to tear someone else down to make themselves feel better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    People will always be hated for trying to do something good. Because there are always insecure people out there that feel like they have to tear someone else down to make themselves feel better.
    Thanks for making my main point in about 500 words less than I did
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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Btw: This left-wing fad to hate Bono is probably based off the notion that he's causing humanitarian efforts to be come too mainstream. You know there are some serious pretentious assholes out there whose standards for liking something are based on how "unique" it is or how few people there are that also like said thing. Once something becomes popular, it's bound to suck, right?
    Yes, it's so true - there are honestly people out there who sincerely care that much about being (or at least seeming) "cool."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    Thanks for making my main point in about 500 words less than I did
    Thanks for going into all of that detail, so I didn't have to bother.
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    I don't really hate him, but, well, let's say that: he is annoying, preachy, pretentious, and above all he says a lot of bullshit about subjects that he doesn't understand, and his humanitarian work actually serve a lot the projects of the Big Government, the military lobby and the new world order. Also, his music is too much mainstream, politically correct to a shame, far to be liked by everybody. He's considered like the Britney Spears of Rock music or something. I think it's pretty much that. When Amy Winehouse publicly screamed to him to shut up his mouth, she gain a lot of respect from me. And many others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    It seems to have become a major left-wing/middle-class fad to hate Bono. I can't quite figure out why.

    I may be biased to not hate him, as I have been a huge U2 fan for more than half my life (though in the biggest way from age 15-20 or so). Mind you, he is more than a little annoying. He can come across as self-centered, self-righteous, preachy, OTT, pretentious...etc.

    But people seem to have chosen to hate him because he speaks up and campaigns for the causes he cares about. I should qualify again, I don't necessarily agree with all his views or approaches. But the thing that makes me laugh/go is that a lot of people seem to find celebrities who are drug-addled, alcoholic, Satan worshipers, stupid, murderers, etc, highly lovable and even admirable. Based on all the Bono-hating, the biggest sin of all is using your fame and popularity to promote what by most people's standards are good causes.

    I may be taking it too far, but I find this an interesting example of the world's skewed morality.
    I didnt think it was a left liberal middle class thing, maybe it is, although its been a long lived thing here in ireland/northern ireland.

    It probably dates from the time of the Zoo album, the after the greatest hits which had a lot of pseudo-religious lyrics like "if God will send his angels", they arent bad songs but they played into the mythos building up that Bono's grandstanding was getting out of hand and he was an uber deva.

    In this respect I dont think he's done much to help himself, grand, grand gestures like taking to the stage at the time of the good friday agreement with Hume and Trimble, seem pretty staged to stoke his celebrity and a lot of his public support for charity has been off set by tax dodges at home and general disillusionment with charity per se (did you see the last comic relief? It was tragic, its not just about the comedy greats disappearing, I think a more general hardening of the heart has taken place with the public questioning any benevolence like its benefit fraud).

    Some of its pretty funny though, Bono didnt have to get as angry as he did at the last gig they did when the guys waved the tax dodger cardboard signs, and a lot of the Irish humourising of him is in good spirits, did you ever see the sketch show in which Bono investigated his origins only to discover he had been Jesus, Ghandi, every important person in history and was actually God and responsible for the origin of the universe? It was hilarious!

    There is a mean side to it too and I definitely know what you're talking about, a lot of the time I dont envy people in public life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I don't really hate him, but, well, let's say that: he is annoying, preachy, pretentious, and above all he says a lot of bullshit about subjects that he doesn't understand, and his humanitarian work actually serve a lot the projects of the Big Government, the military lobby and the new world order. Also, his music is too much mainstream, politically correct to a shame, far to be liked by everybody. He's considered like the Britney Spears of Rock music or something. I think it's pretty much that. When Amy Winehouse publicly screamed to him to shut up his mouth, she gain a lot of respect from me. And many others.
    This totally. I watched a video called "Why Poverty?" and even grassroots organizations in Africa hate him and think he's caused more bad there (with stupid stereotypes and his own closed interpretation of what the problem in Africa was without consulting their insights as local organizations) than good. I guess he meant well, but was incredibly naif. and also came from a perspective of superiority, almost reminiscent to previous colonialists, of "trying to save africa", yeah because africa needs to be saved by white people; it really bugs me that he would cause all that media attention and seriously not have the humility to ask to the experts there, to the local organisations: "what do you need?" "what are the problems?" "how can we help you?"

    also: annoying music.

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