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    I think a lot of people are confused about the topic.

    There is a difference between not liking a band and being underwhelmed (yes, I know its not a word) by them. Its not interesting to have people sit here and talk about what bands they hate. Its more interesting to hear about people actually liking a genre or style of music in general, yet feeling unimpressed by a sucessful band that plays within that genre.

    For example, someone might like Nirvana and Soundgarden but think Pearl Jam are a bunch of hacks.

    I don't mind people saying they don't like the Beatles, that they're not interested in their sort of music, but calling them overrated (which implies that they believe this in spite of some interest and knowledge of rock/pop/60s music) is just plain bizarre.

    That said, I don't want to draw this argument out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Right, except that nobody really rates MCR that highly at all, except depressed goth/emo kids in high school. So they're really not that overrated.

    And Blink-182 is poor man's Green Day, yet they get just as much credit despite half the talent. Both are probably overrated, but Blink much more so.

    The last MCR album was very well-reviewed, and I enjoyed maybe 4-5 songs off it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    The last MCR album was very well-reviewed, and I enjoyed maybe 4-5 songs off it.
    Agreed, I liked it quite a bit. It's hard, but I try not to blame a band for its fans. I think that might be the case with MCR, who I think are quite talented. I think Green Day is fantastic as well. Again, I sense that too many people are throwing the baby out with the bathwater when they talk about a band's fans.

    Blink on the other hand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    Agreed, I liked it quite a bit. It's hard, but I try not to blame a band for its fans. I think that might be the case with MCR, who I think are quite talented. I think Green Day is fantastic as well. Again, I sense that too many people are throwing the baby out with the bathwater when they talk about a band's fans.

    Blink on the other hand...

    As one of the best bands of the past 20 years (Sloan) said: "It's not the band I hate, it's the fans." That is how it is for a lot of artists for me. Like Phish, for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    I don't mind people saying they don't like the Beatles, that they're not interested in their sort of music, but calling them overrated (which implies that they believe this in spite of some interest and knowledge of rock/pop/60s music) just plain bizarre.

    That said, I don't want to draw this argument out.
    I don't assess music intellectually, I care how it makes me feel, the Beatles don't move me whatsoever, I don't understand the reverence given to them. Perhaps I'm just ignorant, could someone explain to me why I should be in awe?

    Let it Be is a pretty ok song...
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    ^ Are you saying you're incapable of understanding why they're good if they don't move you personally?
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    Aside from live shows how can particular fans disturb your personal enjoyment of someone's music?
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    ^ Are you saying you're incapable of understanding why they're good if they don't move you personally?
    I'm pretty sure I'm capable, I just haven't bothered yet as they move me so little.

    I suppose I rate a band based on how much I like them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinlan View Post
    I'm pretty sure I'm capable, I just haven't bothered yet as they move me so little.

    I suppose I rate a band based on how much I like them.
    Sure and so do I, and so does everybody.

    Some of us, however, also rate it according to critical standards at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Most of those bands exist specifically to imitate the marketable standards of a genre and sell records.

    By that standard, they're doing great.
    thats why they don't count.
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