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    Wow, looks like I came to the right place to get information. Thanks for your responses, it is all very helpful!

    In terms of what type of photography I'm interested in, I would say I'm interested in landscapes, close-ups, black and white, fine art. Which camera would you say is the most versatile (of the Nikons and Canons suggested in this thread)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarfism View Post
    Wow, looks like I came to the right place to get information. Thanks for your responses, it is all very helpful!

    In terms of what type of photography I'm interested in, I would say I'm interested in landscapes, close-ups, black and white, fine art. Which camera would you say is the most versatile (of the Nikons and Canons suggested in this thread)?
    You do realize that this is a very broad range? lol.

    Why don't you start by telling your budget...

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    Is it a broad range? hahaha Landscapes and close-ups if I really had to choose then.

    Budget...no more than $600.

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    It's mainly the lens that determines suitability for different types of photographs. Landscapes are best taken with a wide-angle lens (expensive stuff ) Close-up? You mean macro? Wide-angle again for the most part. If you want versatility with a single lens though, get a 18-200. No fun carrying around an extra bulky lens... changing lens are also a hassle. Rather easy to get dust inside if you're changing it outdoors.

    Nikon and Canon are pretty much on par. I believe it's mostly a preference thing between the two. At a $600 budget though... you might want to consider other brands because these two are "pricier" than lesser known ones... like Olympus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarfism View Post
    Is it a broad range? hahaha Landscapes and close-ups if I really had to choose then.

    Budget...no more than $600.

    For $649 (with instant online rebate and free shipping), I suggest this kit:
    Nikon | D40 SLR Digital Camera Kit with 18-55mm AF-S DX &

    Nikon D40 body
    18-55mm AF-S lens (auto focus, with motor in the lens)
    55-200mm VR lens (vibration reduction)

    I own a lot of cameras in higher price ranges, but I find myself grabbing my simple d40 more than any other camera. First, it's extremely light weight and when walking around all day, it matters. When traveling, it matters. I'm very sad that they are phasing this camera out. I love it. Get it now before it's gone. And I don't own stock in Nikon, btw.

    If you can afford to scrap the 2 lenses and get the 18-200mm lens, you should do that, but it's pricier. The 2 lenses are plastic lenses and they are very light, while the 18-200 is a bit heavier but it's all you need (but that lens alone is about $600). But the weight of it negates the lightweight of the d40.

    If you just get the kit with the body and 18-55 lens for $450, that's ok and you can add more lenses later. But for me, I think longer lenses are so much better for portraits. I think you'd regret it if you didn't just get the kit with the longer lens. You'll probably use the longer one more often.

    When buying the 55-200mm, make sure you pay the extra $50 and get the VR version. The longer the lens, the more susceptible to camera shake when not using a tripod. And tripods are for suckers. Hahaha, just kidding, but with digital, tripods are rarely needed anymore unless using a telephoto or crazy slow shutter speed or shooting mostly night shots. Monopods are better for anchoring, or just get yourself one of these bad boys:
    Joby | Gorillapod SLR Flexible Mini-Tripod | GP201P | B&H Photo

    Don't waste your money with a camera bag or other silly accessories that scream: mug me. Don't bother with the big yellow camera strap that comes with it either. Get one that's less conspicuous and more comfortable. I like this one for lighter cameras like the d40:
    Tamrac | N-25 Neoprene Quick Release Strap (Black) | N2501 | B&H

    Don't be an idiot and dangle the camera from your neck. Always sling it around your neck and shoulder - less stress on your neck and you can run with your camera without it hitting you in the face. For the love of all things holy, don't use a back pack either. You can't shoot if you have to stop and dig for your camera. Get a UV filter for your lens - they screw on to the end and protect your baby from rays outside and also from scratching (I never keep a lens cap on - too much fumbling). I like Tiffen filters the best, but you can get Hoya or whatever. Your lenses are size 52mm, so make sure you buy that size when getting filters.
    Tiffen | 52mm UV Protector Glass Filter | 52UVP | B&H Photo

    I think that's about it for now. Let me know if anything isn't clear to you. And let me know what you end up getting. Happy shooting!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarfism View Post
    Is it a broad range? hahaha Landscapes and close-ups if I really had to choose then.

    Budget...no more than $600.
    Canon 1000D with the 18-55 IS kit lens. Should just come in at that price if you shop around. My father bought one recently and I'm impressed. Entry level? Don't you believe it!

    Personally, I'd add a circular polariser and a tripod.

    Edit : This site is good for reviews and sample photos Steve's Digicams - Main Menu

    Edit2 : Nightning, that's quite the thread resurrection of my photos, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Canon 1000D with the 18-55 IS kit lens. Should just come in at that price if you shop around. My father bought one recently and I'm impressed. Entry level? Don't you believe it!

    Personally, I'd add a circular polariser and a tripod.
    This is also a very good camera (it's called the Canon EOS Rebel XS here in the States).

    I haven't run a test of all the lenses for Canon, but I find them to have significantly more lens creep than Nikon lenses (if you are shooting straight down, the lens ring slowly moves, putting you out of focus).

    I only use polarizers when shooting through glass, but it's good to have if you are taking photos of water (cuts the reflection) - just don't use it at the same time as your UV filter because you will see ghosts.

    The Canon has more megapixels than the d40, but that doesn't matter. Megapixels don't matter.

    The d40 kit seems cheaper than the Canon with the one lens, but test them out at a store before buying and get whichever one you like better.

    I tend to stick with Nikon, because I have so many more lenses for Nikon, I like the grip better and I like the colors better. The images just look better to me side by side. But these days, you can photoshop anything if you are not happy.

    Either way, good luck.

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    They all suck (no offense to you, of course). The 3rd one would be ok, but the 55-200 lens doesn't have the VR (vibration reduction). The link I sent you before is the best of all these deals. The B&H store is run by orthodox jews who will not accept orders, not even online, during sabbath. After sunset today EST, you will be able to order online from there.

    Good luck.

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    Not commenting on the price (as I'm in the UK!) but the Canon with the two IS lenses.. the 18-55IS and 55-250IS are pretty good lenses. They aren't up to the quality of L glass, but they are affordable and light.

    Happy to post some examples taken with the 55-250IS (and generally with a Canon Rebel and good L glass, if interested).

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