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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Yeah, yeah - I did notice that they demonized Lady Marchmain more.
    In fact, it's like the sold the movie based upon the idea of her being this overbearing mother who stood in the way of Charles' relationships with Sebastian and Julia.

    That is so reductive. Even if someone considers Brideshead Revisited a "really good bad book," as Martin Amis once declared it to be, it has a much bigger scope than that adaptation suggests. It's not a mere tale of forbidden aristocratic love.

    It's interesting that you are such a big fan of Waugh's, given your apparent political beliefs. He is perhaps the modern conservative movement's favorite novelist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    That is so reductive. Even if someone considers Brideshead Revisited a "really good bad book," as Martin Amis once declared it to be, it has a much bigger scope than that adaptation suggests. It's not a mere tale of forbidden aristocratic love.

    It's interesting that you are such a big fan of Waugh's, given your apparent political beliefs. He is perhaps the modern conservative movement's favorite novelist.

    Yes, the adaptation is trite but it is surely because they wanted to cram what they could into a movie (as opposed to the mini-series) and sell it to audiences. I'm sure they thought that selling it as a romance would make it a box office smash. Oh, marketing.

    I love Waugh's beautiful style of writing and I adore his characters. I'm fascinated by old money and the British aristocracy in works of literature. Vile Bodies is also an excellent book, though not considered as "mature" it has a wonderful balance of humor and darkness. It struck me as being paradoxically absurdly real. I'm obsessed with the 1920's and 30's, and I am a Christian, albeit a liberal one, so I do contemplate some of the deeper issues in Brideshead.

    Whether or not Evelyn Waugh is considered a conservative darling is none of my nevermind. I'm capable of enjoying works of art that reflect life views different from my own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Yes, the adaptation is trite but it is surely because they wanted to cram what they could into a movie (as opposed to the mini-series) and sell it to audiences. I'm sure they thought that selling it as a romance would make it a box office smash. Oh, marketing.
    I'm a film guy, and I think that it had limited appeal to begin with. Getting a better/more famous/more beautiful Julia might have helped, but it was going to have relatively narrow audience. Atonement did rather well (and I didn't think it was very good, either), but Brideshead is a pretty weighty endeavor. Supposedly, David Yates was going to direct, with Paul Bettany (Charles), Jude Law (Sebastian), and Jennifer Connelly (Julia). That (and a more faithful take on the story) might have changed its fortunes.


    I love Waugh's beautiful style of writing and I adore his characters. I'm fascinated by old money and the British aristocracy in works of literature. Vile Bodies is also an excellent book, though not considered as "mature" it has a wonderful balance of humor and darkness. It struck me as being paradoxically absurdly real. I'm obsessed with the 1920's and 30's, and I am a Christian, albeit a liberal one, so I do contemplate some of the deeper issues in Brideshead.
    Yes, we often forget the subtitle of the novel: The Sacred & Profane Memories of Captain Charles Ryder. It's all about grace and forgiveness. It still has some of the wickedly satirical elements, but Waugh was clearly nostalgic for an earlier time, one which had all but disappeared by the time the novel was published post-WWII. It's funny; before I ever even read Waugh, I had the idea for my screenplay. "Vile Bodies as directed by Tarantino" would be a decent description. Or perhaps the reverse: Bottle Rocket, screenplay by Bret Easton Ellis. LOL It's basically a dark comedy/caper film based on my experiences as a middle-class student in a fabulously wealthy crowd at an Ivy League university.


    Whether or not Evelyn Waugh is considered a conservative darling is none of my nevermind. I'm capable of enjoying works of art that reflect life views different from my own.
    That's a good attitude. I love The Clash, despite their silliness and rather offensive politics (Sandinista!, indeed ). Politics may help provide context, but great art can be made by anyone, and we should be ready to acknowledge that regardless of our own views.
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