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    Looks awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    The Trailer by far beats anything I've ever seen, it was pure brilliance. I cannot wait to see this movie, as it is destined to be truly amazing.
    I agree if you're talking about the long-form trailer with the remix of The End is the Beginning is the End. That ties into the film well I feel because it is a remix of a song used in another superhero movie, which seems to tie in with some of the themes...

    By comparison, the TV trailers I've seen are disjointed and lack context. They need a better trailer for television; perhaps they'll put another one together after the film it out...
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    I have been thinking about the comments here and I think that it can be frustrating when you really are into a character and story and want to see it told in a way that does it justice- now I believe that you can take artistic liberties to some extent and that you have to be understanding that film is a different medium and therefore the storytelling needs to be different to accomodate the different medium- or to modernize things so that they can be relatable to the currnet times- I can undertand that.

    Here is the reason why I get upset at say like Fantastic 4. I get pissed off when people make films who have no understanding of the characters and why they are great. Take Dr. Doom- the real star of the Fantastic 4- he was nothing like Dr. Doom in the comics- they did a horrible horrible job- they didn't understand what made him lovable and awesome.

    It wasn't that I was upset that scenes got cut or the storyline differed- it is that there was no understanding of the characters- there was no justice being done to them at all.

    I think that people can be justified in being upset or disappointed with a film adaptation of a story or comic if the spirit and the understanding of what makes the story great and characters great are no where to be found.

    The spiderman movies differend greatly in story and even the personality of spiderman was a bit different- not as much as a smart ass- more ISFP in the movie instead of ENTP in the comic it seems to me but still they kept very true to why spiderman is awesome both as peter and as the superhero- the essence and message of the story remained true and was done justice.

    I think that you can take liberties but you have to understand what makes the character great and you should stay true to that if you want people who have an attatchment to that character to like it- which I think you should try to please the fans as well as the person new to it all. The characters have a fan base for a reason.
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    The first reviews are out and they look fairly Positive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladypinkington View Post
    I have been thinking about the comments here and I think that it can be frustrating when you really are into a character and story and want to see it told in a way that does it justice- now I believe that you can take artistic liberties to some extent and that you have to be understanding that film is a different medium and therefore the storytelling needs to be different to accomodate the different medium- or to modernize things so that they can be relatable to the currnet times- I can undertand that.

    Here is the reason why I get upset at say like Fantastic 4. I get pissed off when people make films who have no understanding of the characters and why they are great. Take Dr. Doom- the real star of the Fantastic 4- he was nothing like Dr. Doom in the comics- they did a horrible horrible job- they didn't understand what made him lovable and awesome.

    It wasn't that I was upset that scenes got cut or the storyline differed- it is that there was no understanding of the characters- there was no justice being done to them at all.

    I think that people can be justified in being upset or disappointed with a film adaptation of a story or comic if the spirit and the understanding of what makes the story great and characters great are no where to be found.

    The spiderman movies differend greatly in story and even the personality of spiderman was a bit different- not as much as a smart ass- more ISFP in the movie instead of ENTP in the comic it seems to me but still they kept very true to why spiderman is awesome both as peter and as the superhero- the essence and message of the story remained true and was done justice.

    I think that you can take liberties but you have to understand what makes the character great and you should stay true to that if you want people who have an attatchment to that character to like it- which I think you should try to please the fans as well as the person new to it all. The characters have a fan base for a reason.
    Damn you! I wanted to rant about this and you beat me to it.

    Let me just add that in Watchmen the thing they really need to get right is Rorschach. That is going to be the most important character to most fans, and if they do him right, non-comic fans are going to love the character for the same reasons. A lot of times appeasing the fans is what makes the movie good as long as you know what's really important. Dr. Manhattan's penis is really not that important in how good this movie will be. If they can get the main characters right and convey the same feeling that the original story did, then not only will they please the old fans, but they will win over a lot of new ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    Damn you! I wanted to rant about this and you beat me to it.

    Let me just add that in Watchmen the thing they really need to get right is Rorschach. That is going to be the most important character to most fans, and if they do him right, non-comic fans are going to love the character for the same reasons. A lot of times appeasing the fans is what makes the movie good as long as you know what's really important. Dr. Manhattan's penis is really not that important in how good this movie will be. If they can get the main characters right and convey the same feeling that the original story did, then not only will they please the old fans, but they will win over a lot of new ones.
    Manhattan > Rorschach

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    Damn you! I wanted to rant about this and you beat me to it.

    Let me just add that in Watchmen the thing they really need to get right is Rorschach.
    By many accounts, Jack Earle Haley, who's playing Rorschach, nails the character. He said that the voice he chose for the part is similar to the voice that Alan Moore used for Rorschach in an audio recording he once made. I hear Patrick Wilson also nails Nite Owl II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrME View Post
    By many accounts, Jack Earle Haley, who's playing Rorschach, nails the character. He said that the voice he chose for the part is similar to the voice that Alan Moore used for Rorschach in an audio recording he once made. I hear Patrick Wilson also nails Nite Owl II.
    It's always all about the voice, isn't it. Nothing can kill a character more than a misplaced voice.
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    Nite Owl is my favourite character, he's such an unlikely superhero, being nerdish and overweight and endearingly naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrielle View Post
    It's always all about the voice, isn't it. Nothing can kill a character more than a misplaced voice.
    Well, something personal and distinctive has to come through that mask. Plus, the way his dialogue was written in the comic really suggested a gruff, coarse voice. Hopefully, he won't overdo the voice like Christian Bale did with his Batman voice in The Dark Knight.
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