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    Darren Aronofsky's RoboCop Reboot To Be Rated R
    July 30, 2008
    Source: MTV
    by Alex Billington

    Last Thursday just as Comic-Con was beginning, MGM decided to announce that Darren Aronofsky was officially directing the RoboCop reboot. However, since that announcement was made, so many new questions have come up: what would it be rated, would it be a direct sequel, would they keep the same themes, and so on. MTV caught up with producers Brad Fischer and Mike Medavoy and tried to get most of those questions answered. The good news is that they expect the film to be rated R, but ideally it's up to Aronofsky in the end. Additionally, they say that this reboot will be much more like Batman Begins than a direct sequel in line with any of the three previous RoboCop movies.

    Fischer explains that "none of [the earlier films are] going to be canonical, as a matter of fact I wouldn't say it's a direct sequel." Fischer's co-producer Medavoy says that they prefer the term "reimagining" instead, as has already been used to describe numerous other projects, including the upcoming Day the Earth Stood Still. While neither of them would even hint at the story, it sounds like this will be a new idea on its own featuring the "concept" of RoboCop but in a different time and place and with a different story. Throwing around Batman Begins is just a way of generating buzz - because all producers like to say that they're own reboot will be as heralded as Batman Begins. Most don't even have that kind of potential to begin with, but this one does. Why? Because the incredibly talented Darren Aronofsky is directing.

    Medavoy also confirms that they're open on the rating. "Well I was involved with the original RoboCop, and it was an R, and the likelihood is that this will be an R. It's likely to be an R unless the director cuts back on some of it." I doubt Aronofsky would cut back if the script is great, but who really knows? Everyone seems to be so rating crucial these days, so it's at least a relief to hear that they're not trying to cut it down to a PG-13 level. But getting back to the actual film and the idea, why is RoboCop being rebooted at all? Medavoy explains that primarily the themes within the original have become even more relevant today.

    "The themes of machines and technology, for instance, that's certainly become even more prevalent today in terms of man giving up certain things to his creations and his technology and his reliance to that. It's pretty provocative stuff," he said. "You've got people today with all kinds of different implants and mechanical implants. Where does that person become no longer human? After the first one? After 50 percent of the brain gets replaced? A lot of the themes that we dealt with in the original are still very interesting to us."
    Although Medavoy's explanation doesn't really make me any more confident, I'm still very excited for this based on Aronofsky alone. Relevant themes are never an entirely legitimate reason for a reboot, because as long as they've got a great story, technology is where it needs to be, and there is a good creative team, then it's always the "right time." And 21 years since the original hit theaters seems like a great time to see Alex J. Murphy rise from the dead again. I'm a huge Aronofsky fan and will remain consistently excited for this reboot until I see or hear something that changes my opinion. As far as I'm concerned, Aronofsky's probably going to actually bring us an awesome reboot on the level of Batman Begins - so be prepared!

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    This sounds pretty awesome. At least that review makes it seem so. I believe I would pay for a ticket to see a good R-rated RoboCop action flick, as long as it had all the crucial parts that make action flicks awesome, including:

    - Impossible physics
    - Implausible MacGuffins (thanks to MacGuffin for that term haha)
    - Plenty of blood and gore (just don't overdo it)
    - Hot females in a male-centric plot
    - The inevitable death of the foreshadowing "herald" - type character

    Looks like there's a blog about it.

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    This song sums up my opinion of RoboCop:

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    Sadly, Five Years Later literally, Aranofsky is not directing the Robocop reboot, and the movie has sufferred accordingly.

    It opens Friday, currently holds 55% on RT, and has the following summary:

    While it's far better than it could have been, José Padilha's RoboCop remake fails to offer a significant improvement over the original.
    "While it's far better than it could have been..." sounds like faint praise indeed.

    It's a shame. I don't know why people don't figure this stuff out during development. Why do bad movies exist?

    I'm hoping it's at least interesting. I bought some Blurays last month and part of the package was two $7.50 discounts on Robocop tickets, so it looks like I'll be going.

    One of the movies was the original Robocop, which was decent enough while leaving me wishing they have delved a bit more into the psychology and human drama of Murphy. Also it's kind of deeeeelish to see Kurtwood Smith chewing up the screen before he got famous doing "Dead Poet's Societ" (Neil Perry's dad) and the father in "That 70's Show." He's kind of scary as Boddicker (which could be a pun -- he's a "bod dicker"... he dicked up Murphy's bod pretty badly), since his cronies are all just kind of full pack o' nuts while he's far more cunning.

    That movie also has some of the most evocative violence I've ever see in a movie, due to the context and the lack of empathy aspects (the gang blows Murphy apart literally; then off-camera they cut off the salvaged arm because he's product now; and then the guy who gets dosed in toxic waste, then splattered like a bug on a windshield). But you get to see Ronny Cox doing his "Mean MF" routine and handing Maguel Ferrer his hat, plus one of the best lines of dialogue at the movie's "twist" end.

    I'll be interested in seeing how the two compare. I'll be honest about another another "remake" (albeit an adaptation of an adaptation): I actually didn't like the original Total Recall that much, and I enjoyed the Director's Cut of the second adaptation (with Colin Farrell) better... ALTHOUGH it could STILL have been far better, and since it was an adaptation of a story it could have changed a lot more rather than cribbing the first movie at all. That's what really annoys me; if you're the second adaptation of a story, why crib the first movie at all unless there really are a few worthwhile elements to grab?
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    It lost me when it got a PG-13. I will check it out Thursday or Friday.

    Where are the R-rated action flicks anymore?

    At least it doesn't sound like it's as bad as Robocop 3.

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    The bar for getting an R rating is higher than it used to be. If the original was resubmitted for review I bet it would get a PG-13 rating too.

    (The new one is rated PG here. The old one was originally rated R, but in the years since it has been resubmitted for reclassification in other provinces, and most gave it the equivalent of the MPAA's PG-13.)

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    And then there's the issue of CG blood instead of squibs.

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    Squibs, shmibs. It doesn't matter how it's done as long as it's done well.

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    I don't see the point in re-making already perfect films. The original Robocop's probably one of my top 5 favorite movies. A villain like Boddicker just doesn't work in a PG-13 film (think what LOTR would've been like if it had been Disney's The Lord of the Rings).

    Also, I hear they're remaking The Crow, another perfect film that should be left alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü™ View Post
    It lost me when it got a PG-13. I will check it out Thursday or Friday.
    Aw nuts. I didn't even notice that.

    Where are the R-rated action flicks anymore?
    They want to market movies to teenagers.

    I think R ratings are great if the movie and story itself takes advantage of it. Some stories can be told without an R rating.

    At least it doesn't sound like it's as bad as Robocop 3.
    yeah at least it's not as bad as Gigli.
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