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    I'm five years in school choir and this year I've started individual lessons. Mezzosopranos ftw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix13 View Post
    I sing reasonably well. My claim to fame is one year of voice lessons (opera) and I play flute (breath control principles are identical).

    My advice (to be taken with a grain of salt): Scales are your key to vocal control. They're the most efficient way to gain control and improve. Get a piano/keyboard/guitar and sing scales while playing along. This will help you hear whether or not you are in tune.
    - Sing scales slowly without vibratto to practice things like breath control, beauty of tone, and intonation
    - Sing scales fast for agility (be careful to stay in tune)
    - Sing scales in thirds (do, mi, re, fa, etc.) and other intervals

    Stuff to watch out for:
    1) RELAX!!! You can't sing with a tight throat. You want to feel like you're yawning, not squeezing.
    2) When you're tired, you will probably go flat. Being flat sounds worse than being sharp, so try to be sharp when you're tired. (in case you don't know: when discussing errors of intonation, "sharp" = pitch slightly higher than it should be. "flat" = pitch slightly lower)
    3) Learn to breathe. If you're breathing into your upper chest and raising your shoulders, you're probably doing it wrong. Use your diaphragm. To find out how, lie down on the floor and take a deep breath. Your lower belly should expand. When you forcefully exhale, your lower belly should feel like it's trying to expand (abs are engaged). I hope that made sense...
    4) Always start with a warm up. Your voice is a muscle. If you don't stretch it, your chances of damaging it are much higher. You can stretch your chords by warming up with scales.

    I STRONGLY recommend taking 3 or 4 voice lessons if you're serious about singing... just so you can get the basics down. Happy singing to you!
    I sing in the shower mainly . But when trying to record stuff recently I found the best thing for my singing was feedback. If you can hear what you sing really clearly you hit the notes so much better, and the control is so much easier. Scales are good to get you in tune though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix13 View Post
    I sing reasonably well. My claim to fame is one year of voice lessons (opera) and I play flute (breath control principles are identical).

    My advice (to be taken with a grain of salt): Scales are your key to vocal control. They're the most efficient way to gain control and improve. Get a piano/keyboard/guitar and sing scales while playing along. This will help you hear whether or not you are in tune.
    - Sing scales slowly without vibratto to practice things like breath control, beauty of tone, and intonation
    - Sing scales fast for agility (be careful to stay in tune)
    - Sing scales in thirds (do, mi, re, fa, etc.) and other intervals

    Stuff to watch out for:
    1) RELAX!!! You can't sing with a tight throat. You want to feel like you're yawning, not squeezing.
    2) When you're tired, you will probably go flat. Being flat sounds worse than being sharp, so try to be sharp when you're tired. (in case you don't know: when discussing errors of intonation, "sharp" = pitch slightly higher than it should be. "flat" = pitch slightly lower)
    3) Learn to breathe. If you're breathing into your upper chest and raising your shoulders, you're probably doing it wrong. Use your diaphragm. To find out how, lie down on the floor and take a deep breath. Your lower belly should expand. When you forcefully exhale, your lower belly should feel like it's trying to expand (abs are engaged). I hope that made sense...
    4) Always start with a warm up. Your voice is a muscle. If you don't stretch it, your chances of damaging it are much higher. You can stretch your chords by warming up with scales.

    I STRONGLY recommend taking 3 or 4 voice lessons if you're serious about singing... just so you can get the basics down. Happy singing to you!
    Actually, the rhythm and tuning aspect is the thing I have down the best just from being a long-time guitar player. It's things like breath control and beauty of tone where I have no idea what I'm doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by runvardh View Post
    Are you sure it's falsetto and not your real voice? You should check. Also, is that F the one just below the staff or up more? The difference in your answers will make you either a Tenor or a Baritone.
    I'm a guitar player so my music reading ability isn't great. I have to think about this really hard. Umm... it's the second lowest note you can make on a guitar in standard tuning. So, that's probably below the staff on the bass clef. Normally I work with an adjusted treble clef that's one octave lower than it should be.

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    Sing? Yup. Since primary school...possibly before but if so I don't recall it.

    One possible hint I'd give is sing loud. Singing quietly is more of a pain and requires greater control. Oh and daft as it may seem doing impressions of pretty much any voice or sound can help a great deal.

    On a side note I think that until you can sing like a pro it's possibly a mistake to take it too seriously. Singing is making a noise with your voice, try starting there and then worry about smoothing over the note changes, holding your pitch etc.
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    About a month ago I was playing guitar, and then I was singing along with some Live. That's when I realized how much of a comfortable match Live's singer, Edward Kowalczyk (if you know how to say his last name, please tell me), is for me. When he hits high and low notes, he seems to be just as far from his comfort zone as me, and the tone of his voice seems to be similar to mine. Singing Oasis can be rather comfortable because Liam has an unusual voice for me. Noel isn't as bad, but doesn't sing as often.


    Quote Originally Posted by alcea rosea View Post
    I like to sing along songs but I'm not very good at it.
    I mostly sing by myself in a car when driving.
    It's best that not many people hear me when singing.
    Yes, that's exactly the kind of singing I'm not talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by noigmn View Post
    I sing in the shower mainly . But when trying to record stuff recently I found the best thing for my singing was feedback. If you can hear what you sing really clearly you hit the notes so much better, and the control is so much easier. Scales are good to get you in tune though.
    I want to be able to record myself and listen because I'll probably judge more accurately listening to a recording. I guess I just need to hook up a cheap microphone to my computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImNotTooPopular View Post
    I want to be able to record myself and listen because I'll probably judge more accurately listening to a recording. I guess I just need to hook up a cheap microphone to my computer.
    It's actually quite cool. First time I tried recording myself I really hated my singing and was miles off notes and everything, then I just went headphones off my laptop and used the built-in microphone with one headphone in my ear. Then all you need is something that allows you to feed back. I think in windows you just turn microphone off mute on outputs. I'm on mac.

    The headphone step is important, though I'm guessing you'll realise that quickly if you try speakers. And start with the sound down and increase slowly. If you get feedback with headphones on it kills your ears like nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImNotTooPopular View Post
    Singing Oasis can be rather comfortable because Liam has an unusual voice for me. Noel isn't as bad, but doesn't sing as often.
    LOL. If you find yourself singing like those two by accident then try breathe right strips
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImNotTooPopular View Post
    I'm not talking about sounding as bad as nails scraping on a chalk board in your car or in the shower, but do you do any serious vocal music making? I'm a long time guitar player that's trying to learn how to sing. I still don't know what I'm doing with this thing, and it's my own body.
    I am a singer. It just comes naturally, and runs in my family, too.
    I've done some recording and songwriting.
    I play guitar and sing in front of people several times a month.

    I wouldn't know how to "teach" someone to sing.
    I've always thought that either a person can sing or they can't.
    After that, it just takes practice.
    I guess it depends on the genre.
    I think you can be tone deaf and still be one of those "screamer" dudes.

    Judging from American Idol auditions,
    apparently, not everyone has the ability to judge whether they can sing or not.

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    Y'all should post videos of yourselves singing. If 3 people do it, I'll do it. (Keep in mind, I've never taken a lesson, sung in a band, and likely suck nuts.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImNotTooPopular View Post
    I'm a guitar player so my music reading ability isn't great. I have to think about this really hard. Umm... it's the second lowest note you can make on a guitar in standard tuning. So, that's probably below the staff on the bass clef. Normally I work with an adjusted treble clef that's one octave lower than it should be.
    Probably Baritone like me then, I work with both the treble octive down and the base depending on the piece. Do you know if people still like the lower sounds or do the girls only screem for the screachy Tenors?
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