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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    General public is bored and interested in watching people getting humiliated. It's basically like an approved form of voyeurism.

    And the pageantry of suffering therein
    Rivals television
    Tv is, after all, the modern day roman coliseum
    Human devastation as mass entertainment
    And now millions sit jeering
    Collectively cheering
    The bloodthirsty hierarchy of the patriarchal arrangement


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    We live in the Attention Economy.

    We pay in Attention.

    And we pay Attention to Paris Hilton.

    Paris is Attention rich, while we are Attention poor.

    If we pay Attention to one another, we enrich each other.

    And we impoverish each other by competing for Attention, while Paris is the new robber baron of Attention - Paris wins, we lose.

    We can learn to pay Attention to one another by practising Active Listening.

    Active Listening will enrich us in the new Attention Economy. But we need to change our orientation - we need to change our desires - and this requires disciplined practice.

    So rather than whinging and whining, we can be rich and accomplished.

    We only need to do two things - one, to change our minds - and two, to practise, practise, practise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    We live in the Attention Economy.

    We pay in Attention.

    And we pay Attention to Paris Hilton.

    Paris is Attention rich, while we are Attention poor.

    If we pay Attention to one another, we enrich each other.

    And we impoverish each other by competing for Attention, while Paris is the new robber baron of Attention - Paris wins, we lose.

    We can learn to pay Attention to one another by practising Active Listening.

    Active Listening will enrich us in the new Attention Economy. But we need to change our orientation - we need to change our desires - and this requires disciplined practice.

    So rather than whinging and whining, we can be rich and accomplished.

    We only need to do two things - one, to change our minds - and two, to practise, practise, practise.
    The Attention Economy. Haven't read about that for a while. Thomas Davenport has some good stuff about that if I remember rightly.

    You are right that is the key to changing it.

    Most people don't really like to think.
    If you make them think they're thinking they'll love you.
    If you really make them think they'll hate you.

    Everybody loves a well presented illusion.

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    Offers a form of escapism.

    One of the reasons why the Coliseum was so popular. Or why Shakespeare is remembered.


    People need heroes to loathe.

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    Celebrity culture and America's fascination, fixation and obsession on it really gets to my nerves. Recognize talent, no problem, but to worship frivolous drama of names that shouldn't be of any significance, no thank you.

    "Brittany Spear's little sister: PREGNANT AGAIN!!!" <--- who gives a damn? Why do people give a damn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by animenagai View Post
    It is completely bullshit. Celebrity culture is by definition a problem created by society. It is caused by the ever-present 'follow the leader' culture. Things have become 'cool' simply because everyone else thinks it's 'cool'. We live in the age of television and the internet. There are a million things brainwashing society, and they do it by making people think that it's fun.
    Actually, I disagree. I think of our obsession with celebrities as obsessions with the dominant males and females of the hierarchy. The gossip, such as in the OP's video, and tabloids in general, are a way for subordinates in the hierarchy to (1) stay informed about what's going on and (2) to try topple the dominant figures in order to elevate their own status. I think this is nothing new at all, it's just that technology has improved and social norms relating to privacy and decency have become more relaxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    I think that the world is more and more turing into a place where people don't want to live. So they search for an easy exit or a dream world.
    It's always been like that. The masses need their coliseum games, their church chants, and their celebrity gossip.

    Did you know that sense deprivation can kill a person within 24 hours?
    Boredom is sirius bidness.
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    Here's a question, then, if boredom is the problem:

    Why are people "bored?" We've got things to entertain ourselves at every elbow.

    It is something other than being bored I think.

    Boredom can mask a number of other existential problems.
    "No ray of sunshine is ever lost, but the green which it awakes into existence needs time to sprout, and it is not always granted to the sower to see the harvest. All work that is worth anything is done in faith." - Albert Schweitzer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Did you know that sense deprivation can kill a person within 24 hours?
    Can you go into a little more detail on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beat View Post
    Can you go into a little more detail on this?
    An experiment was conducted (forget exactly who did this, but I think it was the Soviet experiments related to the space program) into this. Basically a person undressed, laid down into a giant water bed looking thing. He was then blindfolded and placed in a room where there was no sound. To make a long story short, his vital signs were monitored and the scientists came to conclusion that person ordinarily would not survive very long under sense deprivation.

    There are S&M people who are into this stuff. A person gets tied up in a leather cocoon that prevents him from moving, hearing or seeing. Apparently after 4 hours or so, the body starts to react in a weird way, the person starts hallucinating etc. Sessions are closely monitored and timed to prevent serious consequences.

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