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Thursday
09-25-2008, 01:00 AM
I'm Jewish.

but your type says INTJ :thelook:

Nocap
09-25-2008, 01:00 AM
What a sight for sore eyes.

This thread is back.

I remember how much fun this thread was. In fact, too much fun. I was awarded two infractions.

You all have no mercy have you? Tempting me like this...

booyalab
09-25-2008, 01:02 AM
his full name is Jackud Flakinskisteinowitz

Edahn
09-25-2008, 01:05 AM
his full name is Jackud Flakinskisteinowitz

"Flak" still sounds goyish to me.

Magic Poriferan
09-25-2008, 01:06 AM
I'm Jewish.

You're all going to Hell now.

Are you, now? That would be ironic.

Nocap
09-25-2008, 01:08 AM
Uber's a complicated man.

Uberfuhrer
09-25-2008, 01:18 AM
Uber's a complicated man.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/halloweenmart/psycho7.gif

prplchknz
09-25-2008, 01:19 AM
I'm Jewish.

You're all going to Hell now.

sorry but with that avatar I can not take anything uber says seriously it's like if the :D was a zombie.

:peepwall:not that I did before.

but anyone else read all his post with the green smiley tone?

sorry I had to say something, it was killing me

Uytuun
09-25-2008, 01:22 AM
I'm curious - what am I?

Haphazard
09-25-2008, 01:25 AM
"Flak" still sounds goyish to me.

As long as his mum's Jewish, he's still Jewish in the eyes of even the Orthodox community.

Jack Flak
09-25-2008, 01:32 AM
I'm curious - what am I?
INFP of course.

Haphazard
09-25-2008, 01:40 AM
INFP of course.

Everyone is an INFP until proven otherwise.

Uytuun
09-25-2008, 02:06 AM
INFP of course.

I had expected more from you.

colmena
09-25-2008, 02:13 AM
I had expected more from you.

Jack does neither strip-o-grams or spit roasts.

It'll be in his obituary.

Jack Flak
09-25-2008, 02:14 AM
I had expected more from you.
Certainly a phenominon in all walks of life...All walks of life.

Dude, I just did a multi-quote. Name the two movies, win a prize!

animenagai
09-25-2008, 02:25 AM
alright, who wants a type off? anyone question my ENFPness? i'll weave through your MBTI punches like an adult caterpillar.

whatever
09-25-2008, 02:30 AM
alright, who wants a type off? anyone question my ENFPness? i'll weave through your MBTI punches like an adult caterpillar.

Totally an ESFJ- that's why you picked a sentimental type avatar. You probably consider it risque to be putting forth such a challenge and disrupting polite society..... ;)

(I just couldn't resist an opportunity to be silly this evening :tongue:)

Uytuun
09-25-2008, 02:40 AM
win a prize!

Asimov? :devil:

Jack Flak
09-25-2008, 02:41 AM
Asimov? :devil:
No, no. Since no one's going to get it: Trainspotting and Easy Rider.

animenagai
09-25-2008, 02:44 AM
Totally an ESFJ- that's why you picked a sentimental type avatar. You probably consider it risque to be putting forth such a challenge and disrupting polite society..... ;)

(I just couldn't resist an opportunity to be silly this evening :tongue:)

:D sentimental? that guy's the old man from ranma 1/2. goes around his neighborhood with his martial arts stealing lingerie.

wait, holy crap, he's an ENFP!!!

Uytuun
09-25-2008, 02:49 AM
No, no. Since no one's going to get it: Trainspotting and Easy Rider.

So protective.

Still haven't typed me.

Terian
09-25-2008, 04:50 AM
Is this where I deffend my ENTPness?



Sub if I could just borrow your ruler?

No, that's where you join me in pretending that you're an ENFP, silly!:hug::hi:

EDIT: Oh, dear God. I've used an animated emoticon.

Colors
09-25-2008, 06:01 AM
Sometimes I think I'm INFP. :ninja: (But only the bad parts.)

whatever
09-25-2008, 06:04 AM
:devil: the bad parts of you or the bad parts of INFP?

Evan
09-25-2008, 06:35 AM
ThatGirl seems like an ENTP to me.

CzeCze
09-25-2008, 09:32 AM
If Jack Flack thinks he's an introvert (and/or Jewish), that's good enough for me. I agrees with Kuranes and Jack hisself that the internet is a playground for introverts to be 'extroverted'.

Going only by 'online' and specifically forum behavior, I think someone at INTPc pegged MacGuffin as an ESFJ or something? HEE-LAIR-EE-OUS.

And omg, how many times are we gonna have to go through this, Edahn is *not* an ENFP. NOT. It's hard enough to be an INTP, I'm sure the shame of being a male ENFP and being in love with emoticons would push him over the edge. Are you NT's kicking him out already? Harsh, man.

I dunno, maybe he'd like to converse with some of the male ENFPs on the forum and be vetted through. I think you need a 2/3 majority to be get in.

Jack Flak
09-25-2008, 11:44 AM
And omg, how many times are we gonna have to go through this, Edahn is *not* an ENFP. NOT. It's hard enough to be an INTP, I'm sure the shame of being a male ENFP and being in love with emoticons would push him over the edge. Are you NT's kicking him out already? Harsh, man.
I have since heard that some actually think he's ENFP. And here I thought I was just being funny. (And thanks for the support Cze)

Still haven't typed me.

I don't have a good enough read to make an informed guesstimate, but INFJ?

ajblaise
09-25-2008, 11:58 AM
Besides the obvious ones like Lateralus and Jack Flack, I think booyalab might be an INTJ.

InaF3157
09-25-2008, 12:20 PM
Besides the obvious ones like Lateralus and Jack Flack, I think booyalab might be an INTJ.

Reasoning?

Uytuun
09-25-2008, 12:26 PM
I don't have a good enough read to make an informed guesstimate, but INFJ?

Why feeling?

Jack Flak
09-25-2008, 12:27 PM
I think booya is INTP. She's just mean. ;)

Jack Flak
09-25-2008, 12:28 PM
Why feeling?
As I said, it's a wild guess. I'm sure you have a much better idea than I.

ajblaise
09-25-2008, 12:30 PM
Reasoning?

Her ideas, theories.. seem to be firm and unbudging and conclusive. She's a libertarian/conservative. I think I saw her test as J in some thread.

I'd only say she could be a P because she has a good sense of humor.

Jack Flak
09-25-2008, 12:43 PM
Her ideas, theories.. seem to be firm and unbudging and conclusive. She's a libertarian/conservative. I'd only say she could be a P because she has a good sense of humor.
All somewhat true for myself as well, as you may know, and there's no way in hell I'm INTJ.

ajblaise
09-25-2008, 12:44 PM
All somewhat true for myself as well, as you may know, and there's no way in hell I'm INTJ.

ehh idk, I really don't get that "sureness" "definite" vibe from you.

Jack Flak
09-25-2008, 12:52 PM
ehh idk, I really don't get that "sureness" "definite" vibe from you.
To a degree, I've evolved past the point of trying to prove everything I "know" to others. You should've seen me at 17.

Lateralus
09-25-2008, 12:53 PM
Besides the obvious ones like Lateralus and Jack Flack, I think booyalab might be an INTJ.
Wait, are you saying I'm INTJ?

ajblaise
09-25-2008, 12:54 PM
Wait, are you saying I'm INTJ?

Hell no.

Lateralus
09-25-2008, 12:59 PM
Hell no.
I was gonna say, I think that's the first time someone has accused me of that. ;)

I am wondering how I could be mistyped when I don't even have a type entered in my profile.

Trinity
09-25-2008, 01:08 PM
Her ideas, theories.. seem to be firm and unbudging and conclusive. She's a libertarian/conservative. I think I saw her test as J in some thread.

I'd only say she could be a P because she has a good sense of humor.

Jays aren't supposed to have a good sense of humor :huh:

ajblaise
09-25-2008, 01:13 PM
Jays aren't supposed to have a good sense of humor :huh:

uhhhhhh.. actually EffEm is an INTJ (allegedly) and he's pretty funny.

Trinity
09-25-2008, 01:38 PM
*cuts up FMWs INTJ membership card*

colmena
09-25-2008, 01:45 PM
My best friend is tested INTJ and is extremely witty. He's also very righteously passionate and outgoing.


I think lots of people develop/suppress certain functions. This leads to mistyping or oddities.

And the oddities come at great and innovative effect, in my opinion.

ajblaise
09-25-2008, 02:07 PM
My best friend is tested INTJ and is extremely witty. He's also very righteously passionate and outgoing.


I think lots of people develop/suppress certain functions. This leads to mistyping or oddities.

And the oddities come at great and innovative effect, in my opinion.

Yeah I agree, just because might test an an INTJ, doesn't mean they don't have ESFP skillz.

Edahn
09-25-2008, 05:40 PM
LIES! ALL LIES!!!

Orangey
09-25-2008, 05:56 PM
I'm going to go ahead and grub for attention...

So any ideas about my type?

Edahn
09-25-2008, 05:59 PM
I'm going to go ahead and grub for attention...

So any ideas about my type?

Brunette, big boobs.

Edit: Oh, you're a girl. I'll go with INFP.

Orangey
09-25-2008, 06:11 PM
Brunette, big boobs.

Edit: Oh, you're a girl. I'll go with INFP.

Lol

Evan
09-25-2008, 07:32 PM
I'm going to go ahead and grub for attention...

So any ideas about my type?

INTP

ajblaise
09-26-2008, 12:58 AM
I'm going to go ahead and grub for attention...

So any ideas about my type?

Your profile picture makes you look like some kind of ESFJ. But I guess you're not..

Orangey
09-26-2008, 04:21 AM
Your profile picture makes you look like some kind of ESFJ. But I guess you're not..

How does one look like an ESFJ?

Uberfuhrer
09-26-2008, 04:23 AM
How does one look like an ESFJ?

Do you not think that one's personality could also shape his appearance?

Orangey
09-26-2008, 04:26 AM
Do you not think that one's personality could also shape his appearance?

Perhaps in the matters of appearance that can be controlled by the person (e.g., clothing, make-up, general style, etc...). However my profile picture only reveals my face, and I don't think that personality had much control over how that turned out.

ajblaise
09-26-2008, 04:26 AM
How does one look like an ESFJ?

Good natural non-awkward smile, looks like you keep up on your appearance and are neat and orderly, you seem to have some emotion in your facial expression.

Some people are very accurate at visual ID. Most of it I think is just an intuitive vibe.

Orangey
09-26-2008, 04:31 AM
Good natural non-awkward smile, looks like you keep up on your appearance and are neat and orderly, you seem to have some emotion in your facial expression.

Ah, I see where you're coming from. If you couldn't tell, the picture I posted was a formal pic taken by a photographer, so I had to smile and had to be fairly well manicured (unless I wanted to pay for yet another horrible pic of myself).

Edit: About the visual ID...I think it requires more than just a snapshot of someone. A lot is revealed by a person's mannerisms, continual facial expressions, clothing, and interaction style (to name just a few things). I could never accurately type someone from a photo, I don't think.

ajblaise
09-26-2008, 04:34 AM
Ah, I see where you're coming from. If you couldn't tell, the picture I posted was a formal pic taken by a photographer, so I had to smile and had to be fairly well manicured (unless I wanted to pay for yet another horrible pic of myself).

Yeah I'd say someone in a natural situation would be a lot better picture to guess someone's type from.

If you think you're an INTP, you should be happy, we're the best type for sure :cool:

Orangey
09-26-2008, 05:14 AM
Yeah I'd say someone in a natural situation would be a lot better picture to guess someone's type from.

Yes better, but still not good. I have a hard time typing celebrities even after having watched several of their interviews, seen them move around and behave, and express their opinions. If it's hard to get an accurate read on someone even after having seen all of that, then it must be near impossible to do so from seeing just one or two pictures.

ajblaise
09-26-2008, 05:17 AM
Yes better, but still not good. I have a hard time typing celebrities even after having watched several of their interviews, seen them move around and behave, and express their opinions. If it's hard to get an accurate read on someone even after having seen all of that, then it must be near impossible to do so from seeing just one or two pictures.

People who are really into MBTI have an easier time typing people than ones who might have just been introduced to it. Ever read some of the What's my Type? and Popular Culture and Type threads?

Orangey
09-26-2008, 05:39 AM
People who are really into MBTI have an easier time typing people than ones who might have just been introduced to it. Ever read some of the What's my Type? and Popular Culture and Type threads?

Yes, I've read them. And participated ('cause they're fun).

Evan
09-26-2008, 05:39 AM
People who are really into MBTI have an easier time typing people than ones who might have just been introduced to it. Ever read some of the What's my Type? and Popular Culture and Type threads?

I actually disagree. It's harder for me to type people now, because there's so much variation in behavior within type.

Whereas before I'd just type people and be wrong more often.

I get it right now, but it's just a hard thing to do. (Some cases are easy obviously, but not all.)

ajblaise
09-26-2008, 05:41 AM
I actually disagree. It's harder for me to type people now, because there's so much variation in behavior within type.

Really? It was easier to type people when you knew less about MBTI? Or are you trying to say something else?

Evan
09-26-2008, 05:50 AM
Really? It was easier to type people when you knew less about MBTI? Or are you trying to say something else?

It wasn't easier, I just thought it was. That's because I got it wrong more often.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:12 PM
ajblaise is INFP, and he knows it. 'Tis a common masquerade.

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:14 PM
ajblaise is INFP, and he knows it. 'Tis a common masquerade.

huh.. that's funny I was going to call you an F in this thread.

I've never been called an F before, so I'd like to hear you explain the reasoning maybe.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:17 PM
Yer F rules yer T, man.

ZiL
09-27-2008, 11:19 PM
Omg, you two are everywhere together! :wubbie:

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:19 PM
Yer F rules yer T, man.

Well you're an ENFP and they're suppose to be good at reading people..

I sometimes wish I was more of an F and felt more emotions.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:20 PM
If you wish you felt more emotions, that means you're F.

pure_mercury
09-27-2008, 11:20 PM
Good natural non-awkward smile, looks like you keep up on your appearance and are neat and orderly, you seem to have some emotion in your facial expression.

Some people are very accurate at visual ID. Most of it I think is just an intuitive vibe.

I doubt people would guess ESFJ for me based on a candid picture. Most of that description sounds like me, although I laugh or smirk more often than I smile.

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:21 PM
If you wish you felt more emotions, that means you're F.

I wish that made sense. I guess 'not making sense' is something ENFP's sometimes have trouble with.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:22 PM
I do feel like pure mercury simply has to be T. ESTJ I would believe.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:23 PM
I wish that made sense. I guess 'not making sense' is something ENFP's sometimes have trouble with.
No, ENFPs are fine with not making sense. LOL.

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:24 PM
No, ENFPs are fine with not making sense. LOL.

Well you know more about yourself than me.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:25 PM
Well you know more about yourself than me.
But I know more about you than you.

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:26 PM
But I know more about you than you.

Yeah, because you're an F.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:27 PM
In actuality, it's because you're an F! GRR! *destroys valuable things*

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:28 PM
*waits until Jack Flack gets his emotions under control*

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:29 PM
Those were faux emotions. I'm sure you would have noticed if thinking were your dominant function, supplemented by extraverted intuition.

pure_mercury
09-27-2008, 11:30 PM
I do feel like pure mercury simply has to be T. ESTJ I would believe.

I think I am a little too weird to be ESTJ. ExxJ for sure, though.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:31 PM
Upon consideration to date, if I had no prior bias, I would call you ExTJ, with 90 percent certainty.

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:32 PM
Those were faux emotions. I'm sure you would have noticed if thinking were your dominant function, supplemented by extraverted intuition.

Us INTPs sometimes have trouble knowing what people are feeling, luckily your type doesn't have that problem.

pure_mercury
09-27-2008, 11:33 PM
Upon consideration to date, if I had no prior bias, I would call you ExTJ, with 90 percent certainty.

ENFJ? ENTJ?

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:33 PM
Us INTPs sometimes have trouble knowing what people are feeling, luckily your type doesn't have that problem.
INTPs excel at empathy, INFPs excel at compassion.

Being that you pity my supposed ignorance, you are INFP.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:33 PM
ENFJ? ENTJ?
ENTJ or ESTJ.

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:36 PM
INTPs excel at empathy

Huh? That's the first time I've heard that.

If you didn't just make the F accusation to get back at me for saying I would beat you if we were married in that other thread, maybe you could explain in detail your reasoning..idk, I'd really like to hear it actually.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:37 PM
Tbph, I don't "know" you're INFP, but that is indeed the impression I get. I can be jovial yet serious simultaneously.

pure_mercury
09-27-2008, 11:37 PM
ENTJ or ESTJ.

People have guessed so many things for me since I've been on here. I find it amusing, but also illuminating. I always say that if you were to ask five of my acquaintances about me, you'd get five different answers.

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:37 PM
Merc seems like an ESTJ to me, not sure where your F comes from.

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:38 PM
Tbph, I don't "know" you're INFP, but that is indeed the impression I get. I can be jovial yet serious simultaneously.

Yeah, maybe you could explain why you think that or get that impression. You usually have a lot to say on what type a person is.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:39 PM
People have guessed so many things for me since I've been on here. I find it amusing, but also illuminating. I always say that if you were to ask five of my acquaintances about me, you'd get five different answers.
It's just that I've hardly ever seen such a preference for Thinking before. I would lean toward ENTJ if I had to choose one type, due to the strategic, long-term, connection based analyses of yours.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:42 PM
Yeah, maybe you could explain why you think that or get that impression. You usually have a lot to say on what type a person is.
INFPs are...How can I possibly put this lightly...No, I can't..."Allergic to logic." (I am LOLing but not entirely kidding)

entropie
09-27-2008, 11:42 PM
Well you're an ENFP and they're suppose to be good at reading people..

I sometimes wish I was more of an F and felt more emotions.

If you didn't just make the F accusation to get back at me for saying I would beat you...

You are gettin onto fauxiness :D

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:47 PM
INFPs are...How can I possibly put this lightly...No, I can't..."Allergic to logic." (I am LOLing but not entirely kidding)

Some examples to be nice. I think I've always been calm and collected in my debates here, I always explain things with just cold logic and never really interject serious emotion into posts.

Maybe you're projecting? From you're posts, you really do seem like some kind of extroverted feeler, honestly. But of course how you are online might not be how you are IRL.

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:50 PM
It's the feeling-judgment thing. It seems as if you make decisions based on how things appear to you morally. (Which every sane person does to some extent)

ajblaise
09-27-2008, 11:54 PM
It's the feeling-judgment thing. It seems as if you make decisions based on how things appear to you morally. (Which every sane person does to some extent)

Have any examples to allude to? You've been pretty vague about all this.

I usually test somewhere around 70 to 90 percent T, and I get told that I'm too cold and unemotional by people a lot, so all this is kind of surprising. I'm curious, what T percentage do you test as?

Jack Flak
09-27-2008, 11:56 PM
INFPs can be just as cold as INTPs. I've known those with great disdain for society in general.

However, again, I don't mean to say you ARE INFP. If you aren't, you aren't.

entropie
09-27-2008, 11:59 PM
just curious, why do people still think T is an indication for being cold and unemotional ?

*makes a flower out of his crown caps on the desk*

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:00 AM
just curious, why do people still think T is an indication for being cold and unemotional ?

*makes a flower out of his crown caps on the desk*
*shrug* don't blame me.

aj: you also VI as INFP to me, if that's you in your profile pic. Which is sketchy of course, but yeah...

Eric B
09-28-2008, 12:00 AM
INTPs excel at empathy, INFPs excel at compassion. I thought Fi used empathy, and Fe used compassion.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:01 AM
INFPs can be just as cold as INTPs. I've known those with great disdain for society in general.

However, again, I don't mean to say you ARE INFP. If you aren't, you aren't.

It just so far it seems like an empty accusation, possibly an emotionally motivated one ;). I think you might be better at typing celebrities.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:02 AM
So you agree with my typing Reznor as ENTP?

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:02 AM
I thought Fi used empathy, and Fe used compassion.
Sympathy maybe. Empathy is a skill, and quite suited to Thinking.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:04 AM
So you agree with my typing Reznor as ENTP?

The more I thought about it the more I thought he could be an ENTP. But I'm still very unsure about his type.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:05 AM
The more I thought about it the more I thought he could be an ENTP. But I'm still very unsure about his type.
Trust me.

heart
09-28-2008, 12:07 AM
aj: you also VI as INFP to me, if that's you in your profile pic. Which is sketchy of course, but yeah...

I don't think the eyes show up well enough in aj's pic for this determination. INTP and INFP in my opinion have different look in eyes.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:09 AM
I don't think the eyes show up well enough in aj's pic for this determination. INTP and INFP in my opinion have different look in eyes.
Yes they do, and as far as I'm concerned, he has the INFP "I love the world but hate it." gaze, as opposed to the *does logic* gaze of the INTP.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:09 AM
I don't think the eyes show up well enough in aj's pic for this determination. INTP and INFP in my opinion have different look in eyes.

What do you mean by "show up"? You mean you can't see them clear enough in the photo?

Jen
09-28-2008, 12:10 AM
aj looks like an INTP to me. I'm curious what type I look like?

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:11 AM
aj looks like an INTP to me. I'm curious what type I look like?
Clear pix or it didn't happen.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:11 AM
Yes they do, and as far as I'm concerned, he has the INFP "I love the world but hate it." gaze, as opposed to the *does logic* gaze of the INTP.

If it matters, I was withdrawing from both opiates and benzos in that picture, I was pissed off.. maybe that makes a difference in appearance, I don't know.

Mondo
09-28-2008, 12:12 AM
I think that Jack Flak and ajbialise are both ESFJs! :D

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:12 AM
If it matters, I was withdrawing from both opiates and benzos in that picture, I was pissed off.. maybe that makes a difference in appearance, I don't know.
Yes, it does. Jesus.

heart
09-28-2008, 12:12 AM
What do you mean by "show up"? You mean you can't see them clear enough in the photo?

Yes I see your eyes and they are very nice, but if the gaze was directly looking at camera I would tell more from them.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:12 AM
aj looks like an INTP to me. I'm curious what type I look like?

To me you look like an ESFJ.

entropie
09-28-2008, 12:13 AM
aj looks like an INTP to me. I'm curious what type I look like?

I'll go with HOOT :D

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:14 AM
Yes, it does. Jesus.

I don't know, I always thought I had a default look on my face no matter what was going on underneath.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:15 AM
I don't know, I always thought I had a default look on my face no matter what was going on underneath.
Eh. If you're INTP and want to seem INTP, maybe less ganj.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:17 AM
Eh. If you're INTP and want to seem INTP, maybe less ganj.

oh god was I high in that pic, ridiculous amounts, it's the only thing besides exercise that can make me feel better when withdrawing.

edit: i think infp's seem to lead fairly interesting lives, more so than intp's, I don't think I would mind being one.. minus the horrible depression they get.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:18 AM
Yeah less speed and opiates is def. the way to go.

entropie
09-28-2008, 12:22 AM
Yeah less speed and opiates is def. the way to go.

but beer is ok ? :cheers: :jofticon_1:

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:22 AM
In moderation *fails at it*

MOAR BR PLS

entropie
09-28-2008, 12:25 AM
xD comes in no time ! :D

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:25 AM
beer sux, as far as drugs go. and this is coming from someone who might have had an alcohol problem in high school and college.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:26 AM
*high on life*

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:27 AM
*high on life*

but why not get higher?

*hands Jack some pills*

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:28 AM
Meh, I could handle 20mg mixed amphetamine salts atm. Nothin' devastating.

heart
09-28-2008, 12:31 AM
Meh, I could handle 20mg mixed amphetamine salts atm. Nothin' devastating.

2 cups of coffee and four hours later and I'm a shaking, heart-racing, irritable mess. Always been that way. I don't understand how people's bodies handle speed, lol.

Trinity
09-28-2008, 12:32 AM
You can tell NF from NT in the eyes :thelook:

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:32 AM
2 cups of coffee and four hours later and I'm a shaking, heart-racing, irritable mess. Always been that way. I don't understand how people's bodies handle speed, lol.

Caffeine makes me sleepy, every body is different I guess.

Jen
09-28-2008, 12:34 AM
To me you look like an ESFJ.*rolls eyes*

entropie
09-28-2008, 12:34 AM
With speed you mean a Stargate season 1-10 marathon, dont you ? :D

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:36 AM
Well, I'm gonna go hang with my INFP buddy and drink Sam Adams, so y'all have fun.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:37 AM
*rolls eyes*

pshh, just what an ESFJ would do.

Jen
09-28-2008, 12:40 AM
well I was going to respond by calling you a fucker but I figured I'd get in trouble. :rolleyes:

I take this as an insult as all the ESFJ's I know have that glazed over look in their eyes. In fact my husband and I were just discussing places where intuitives live because the strict observation of rules is something I have a difficult time with.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 12:41 AM
^Probably the self-hate resulting from the notice of someone with type-identity. *is hilarious*

INTJMom
09-28-2008, 12:41 AM
Well you're an ENFP and they're suppose to be good at reading people..

I sometimes wish I was more of an F and felt more emotions.
Naw. Jack's an ISTP!

entropie
09-28-2008, 12:42 AM
well I was going to respond by calling you a fucker but I figured I'd get in trouble. :rolleyes:

I take this as an insult as all the ESFJ's I know have that glazed over look in their eyes. In fact my husband and I were just discussing places where intuitives live because the strict observation of rules is something I have a difficult time with.

If you burn them up, count me in !

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 12:44 AM
well I was going to respond by calling you a fucker but I figured I'd get in trouble. :rolleyes:

I take this as an insult as all the ESFJ's I know have that glazed over look in their eyes. In fact my husband and I were just discussing places where intuitives live because the strict observation of rules is something I have a difficult time with.

i think part of what made me say ESFJ is because you look so done up and outgoing and clean and tidy in that picture.

Jen
09-28-2008, 12:58 AM
^Probably the self-hate resulting from the notice of someone with type-identity. *is hilarious*I thought you were dragging your sorry ass out for a beer? *shoves jack out the door*i think part of what made me say ESFJ is because you look so done up and outgoing and clean and tidy in that picture.What picture's that?

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 01:18 AM
What picture's that?

yur profile picture

Jen
09-28-2008, 01:19 AM
ha, I just got back from the gym. I rarely "dress" up.

Jeffster
09-28-2008, 01:45 AM
ha, I just got back from the gym. I rarely "dress" up.

Jen, I think some people around here may be under the misguided notion that mom who does hair and makeup = ESFJ.

But, part of that may be due to the fact that a lot of them are very young and rarely if ever leave their mom's basement.

See, I can stereotype too. ;)

Silently Honest
09-28-2008, 02:43 AM
Jen, I think some people around here may be under the misguided notion that mom who does hair and makeup = ESFJ.

But, part of that may be due to the fact that a lot of them are very young and rarely if ever leave their mom's basement.

See, I can stereotype too. ;)

Haha that's awesome.

Orangey
09-28-2008, 04:01 AM
Jen, I think some people around here may be under the misguided notion that mom who does hair and makeup = ESFJ.

But, part of that may be due to the fact that a lot of them are very young and rarely if ever leave their mom's basement.

See, I can stereotype too. ;)

ajblaise has a pattern of calling any well-kempt girl an ESFJ. Your basement theory is plausible.

Haphazard
09-28-2008, 04:03 AM
Jen is a...

I dunno. that "Can you relate to me" outburst seemed really... uhh... EF. I guess.

heart
09-28-2008, 04:07 AM
Since Jen is asking, I say she seems very ENFJ, her eyes seem very Fe to me but then again she says she is very introverted and she would be the one to know herself better.

Members Only
09-28-2008, 06:54 AM
Since Jen is asking, I say she seems very ENFJ, her eyes seem very Fe to me but then again she says she is very introverted and she would be the one to know herself better.

Agreed.

I get the same vibe from Jen, that I get from my dad (ENFJ). My dad is quite the clean freak.

*Thinks he must stop agreeing with everything Heart posts*

Mondo
09-28-2008, 07:28 AM
Damn.
There's going to be one day where I'm going to be really bored and decide to read this whole thread.
I better bring some vodka along for the ride too! :D

Falcarius
09-28-2008, 10:09 AM
899 posts in this thread, and nobody has questioned http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9748/falcsi12ii0.jpg 'coolness'.:D

Owl
09-28-2008, 10:17 AM
Dinosaurs don't have a type. Sorry Falc.

Jen
09-28-2008, 12:29 PM
Jen is a...

I dunno. that "Can you relate to me" outburst seemed really... uhh... EF. I guess.Thankfully I've found better more constructive things to do with my time. ;)Since Jen is asking, I say she seems very ENFJ, her eyes seem very Fe to me but then again she says she is very introverted and she would be the one to know herself better.I can be, but when around people for too long I really have to get away from them or I turn into a meanie. My energy comes from being alone but there are times when I like to be with people. I found this pic of my eyes in this thread http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/bonfire/387-peeper-pics-2.html. My Husband insists my eyes are green but to me they are blue. Is he color blind?

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/JenEyes-1-1.jpgAgreed.

I get the same vibe from Jen, that I get from my dad (ENFJ). My dad is quite the clean freak.

*Thinks he must stop agreeing with everything Heart posts*On the surface I am a "clean freak", just don't open any drawers or closets if you value your life. ;)Jen, I think some people around here may be under the misguided notion that mom who does hair and makeup = ESFJ.

But, part of that may be due to the fact that a lot of them are very young and rarely if ever leave their mom's basement.

See, I can stereotype too. :happy0065: wow Jeff. That was very intuitive of you. There may be hope for you yet.

Jennifer
09-28-2008, 03:36 PM
I actually disagree. It's harder for me to type people now, because there's so much variation in behavior within type.
Whereas before I'd just type people and be wrong more often.

I find it to depend on the person.

Some people actually gets easier, it's not an empirical tree structure but rather an intuitive feel: You're collecting lots on instinctive data points about someone, but it's less about the points themselves and more about the relationship between the points, what is larger, what is smaller, the context, and other things.

I don't know. Either I am full of it, or you just learn to develop a sense of those patterns of traits.

Example: This guy I saw once recently? I met him on MySpace. When I first met him, just based on his profile and the sort of things he put there, I was figuring him an ENFP or something. (That was based on limited data points, and the obvious ones -- the cliches.)

But within about 15-20 minutes of talking to him on the phone (maybe less, I'm not sure), despite his high degree of openness in conversation, I was guessing he was ISTJ instead. That feeling only got stronger the longer we talked.

Sure enough, when I went to his house for dinner, it was just SO bad -- the cliche ISTJ. Clinched it beyond belief, as soon as I saw him, his yard, and his house, and the things in it, and how he behaved all night. It was crazy... one of the most Si+Te people I have ever met.

So beware the initial data points and using them as isolated reference points to pinpoint type. It's the relationship between different types of points that paints the picture.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 05:29 PM
ajblaise has a pattern of calling any well-kempt girl an ESFJ. Your basement theory is plausible.

It's not just that. It's something in the eyes, which I think is a vital part when it comes to visual ID.

FDG
09-28-2008, 05:35 PM
entropie's an ENTj (in socionics, at least)

INTJMom
09-28-2008, 05:37 PM
I find it to depend on the person.

Some people actually gets easier, it's not an empirical tree structure but rather an intuitive feel: You're collecting lots on instinctive data points about someone, but it's less about the points themselves and more about the relationship between the points, what is larger, what is smaller, the context, and other things.

I don't know. Either I am full of it, or you just learn to develop a sense of those patterns of traits.

Example: This guy I saw once recently? I met him on MySpace. When I first met him, just based on his profile and the sort of things he put there, I was figuring him an ENFP or something. (That was based on limited data points, and the obvious ones -- the cliches.)

But within about 15-20 minutes of talking to him on the phone (maybe less, I'm not sure), despite his high degree of openness in conversation, I was guessing he was ISTJ instead. That feeling only got stronger the longer we talked.

Sure enough, when I went to his house for dinner, it was just SO bad -- the cliche ISTJ. Clinched it beyond belief, as soon as I saw him, his yard, and his house, and the things in it, and how he behaved all night. It was crazy... one of the most Si+Te people I have ever met.

So beware the initial data points and using them as isolated reference points to pinpoint type. It's the relationship between different types of points that paints the picture.
Seriously! That's freaky!
He was the complete opposite online! Amazing!

There must be some kind of Ni we can derive from that! :D

Jeffster
09-28-2008, 05:41 PM
:happy0065: wow Jeff. That was very intuitive of you. There may be hope for you yet.

Nah, not intuitive. Observant. But that's more proof that you're intuitive. ;) My observation is that intuitives tend to default to the belief that insight = intuitive, when actually it can be intuitive OR observant. In my case, it's much more likely to be observant, because I'm much more accurate that way.

I don't know if any of that makes sense, and I'm tired of typing "intuitive" because it never looks right. But anyway, there ya go.

entropie
09-28-2008, 05:43 PM
entropie's an ENTj (in socionics, at least)

From Socionics about the ENTj:

"ENTjs often have full lips and a characteristic salesman like smile. Their bone structures normally give them their square shape figures. Their faces too are often square in shape and the facial structure itself often has many small details. Their eyes are constantly darting about rarely remaining on one object for any period of time. ENTjs typically tend to have a bouncing gait. The more hyperactive they are the more noticeable this becomes."

----

Haha, great ! :D

Haphazard
09-28-2008, 05:50 PM
It's not just that. It's something in the eyes, which I think is a vital part when it comes to visual ID.

Are you sure this might not have something more to do with features of eyes accentuated by makeup?

Peguy
09-28-2008, 05:52 PM
On online tests I keep scoring as INFP. But most people classify me as INFJ. So far, nobody has really challenged that.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 05:54 PM
Are you sure this might not have something more to do with features of eyes accentuated by makeup?

hmm I haven't thought about how makeup might effect it... I'm sure it does.

It's just that in high school and in college and after college I've been around A LOT, too many, ESFJ and ESFP girls... I like to think that I know the type very well.

Concerning Jen, it seems that most people think she's an ENFJ, and she doesn't seem to have a problem with that, so I guess there is a decent chance that someone who hates to be called an Sensor might not be one.

Haphazard
09-28-2008, 05:57 PM
hmm I haven't thought about how makeup might effect it... I'm sure it does.

It's just that in high school and in college and after college I've been around A LOT, too many, ESFJ and ESFP girls... I like to think that I know the type very well.

Many of the girls who go to my school look exactly the same. This is because they all wear the same makeup the same way. I'm sure that if they stripped away their makeup, they'd all look much more different from each other.

Take this as you will.

entropie
09-28-2008, 05:59 PM
On online tests I keep scoring as INFP. But people often classify me as INFJ. So far, nobody has really challenged that.

They are afraid of you, because people are afraid of INFJ's. Well I do not know, if all people are but I am :D

Jokes aside, I would give you the NF + IJ tag. I can relate to your posts in the forums often and they always are thought through. That makes your answers emit some sort of security and definiteness, I am used of J-types posts and I either find disgusting or intriguing.

As it goes for your facial ID, I would give you the advice to go a little bit more easy on lipgloss next time, it's disgusting :D

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 06:04 PM
Many of the girls who go to my school look exactly the same. This is because they all wear the same makeup the same way. I'm sure that if they stripped away their makeup, they'd all look much more different from each other.

Take this as you will.

I'm sure there were a lot of non-ESFJ's and the like I over looked... because since ESFJ's and ESFP's dominate the other types of girls might somehow blend in and maybe even try to act like their girl peers.

What would tell me a girl wasn't that type, is if at a party or something she was hanging with some oddball group of people, no makeup, a little artsy or emo looking..

entropie
09-28-2008, 06:07 PM
What would tell me a girl wasn't that type, is if at a party or something she was hanging with some oddball group of people, no makeup, a little artsy or emo looking..


This has proven to me to be no reliable stereotype. I eventually noticed that all of the ganja smokers I used to hang around with were SJ or SP. :D

INTJMom
09-28-2008, 06:08 PM
On online tests I keep scoring as INFP. But most people classify me as INFJ. So far, nobody has really challenged that.
Would you be interested in taking another online test?
It's tougher for we veterans to skew because there are three choices per question.
Discordia (http://www.discordia-inc.co.uk/misc/mbtitest.html)

Peguy
09-28-2008, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the kind words entropie. What posts of mine do you find disgusting? :D



As it goes for your facial ID, I would give you the advice to go a little bit more easy on lipgloss next time, it's disgusting :D

ROTFL!

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 06:10 PM
This has proven to me to be no reliable stereotype. I eventually noticed that all of the ganja smokers I used to hang around with were SJ or SP. :D

I haven't met too many SJ smokers, besides the kind that will smoke a blunt just to get more fucked up when drunk.

I've been around maybe 100+ weed smokers, the types that are most into it are: NPs, SPs, NTs, and NF's.

entropie
09-28-2008, 06:14 PM
I haven't met too many SJ smokers, besides the kind that will smoke a blunt just to get more fucked up when drunk.

I've been around maybe 100+ weed smokers, the types that are most into it are: NPs, SPs, NTs, and NF's.

Well, I do not know. This can be true or can not be true, the only thing that is true is that further proof is needed. And that is why I personally would not give much about steoreotypes, like "N-types" being mavericks to common society or facial ID's

Peguy
09-28-2008, 06:17 PM
Would you be interested in taking another online test?
It's tougher for we veterans to skew because there are three choices per question.
Discordia (http://www.discordia-inc.co.uk/misc/mbtitest.html)
Yes INFP again.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 06:18 PM
Entropie seems ENTP to me.

Peguy: *shrug* "You're weird." lol.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 06:19 PM
Well, I do not know. This can be true or can not be true, the only thing that is true is that further proof is needed. And that is why I personally would not give much about steoreotypes, like "N-types" being mavericks to common society or facial ID's

Maybe the weed, or should I say hash scene is different in Europe? A class of French kids came to my school before, they all smoked hash+tobacco and loved smoking weed here. And an SJ German exchange student I met loved weed as well. I don't know...

Condor
09-28-2008, 06:25 PM
Would you be interested in taking another online test?
It's tougher for we veterans to skew because there are three choices per question.
Discordia (http://www.discordia-inc.co.uk/misc/mbtitest.html)

After taking the Discordia test once, here's what resulted:

Results
Introversion (I): 12 versus Extroversion (E): 2
Sensing (S): 13 versus Intuition (N): 3
Thinking (T): 11 versus Feeling (F): 1
Judging (J): 17 versus Perceiving (P): 0

I did like the style of the questions. Thanks for posting the link.

entropie
09-28-2008, 06:27 PM
Maybe the weed, or should I say hash scene is different in Europe? A class of French kids came to my school before, they all smoked hash+tobacco and loved smoking weed here. And an SJ German exchange student I met loved weed as well. I don't know...

Absolutely, I aggree. I guess and you know that aswell, the most important thing about getting someone to know is to get him to know one by one personally.

In that case you can dumb any facial ID's or other stereotypes.

I know what you mean, by the way, according facial ID's. Maybe this is a problem related to Extroverted Intuitors. I am quick to judge people by their looks aswell and I have a common construct to myself of how different types look like.

This concepts works 2/3 of the time, but I have to say too that I do not get to know 2/3 of the people really personally. That is why my Intuition sometimes has badly failed with the other 1/3 I get to know. So badly failed in fact that I started to treat people from the start in a certain way, imagining I am aware what their MBTI code is and therefore how they need to be treaten. The results were devastating in one case because what I have forgotten overall was to stay who I am.

Jen
09-28-2008, 06:35 PM
It's not just that. It's something in the eyes, which I think is a vital part when it comes to visual ID.


Aj you may be onto something. Here are 14 sets of eyes. What "type" are each set of eyes?

1) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/P1030153corrected-1-1.jpg

2) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/P9080052-1.jpg

3) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/JenNanSarahMom-1.jpg

4) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/JenNanSarahMom-2.jpg

5) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/P1090421-2.jpg


6) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/otherphotos31cs4-1.jpg

7) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/profilepic1244_2gif-1.jpg

8) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/IMG_1161-1.jpg

9) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/mommysmiles-1.jpg

10) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/k2-Copy-1.jpg

11) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/IMG_1063-1.jpg

12) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/P1100012-3-1.jpg

13) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/P1100389-1.jpg

14) http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/Jen1357/r6wozr-1.jpg

*feels a thread split coming on*

Haphazard
09-28-2008, 06:38 PM
I'm sure there were a lot of non-ESFJ's and the like I over looked... because since ESFJ's and ESFP's dominate the other types of girls might somehow blend in and maybe even try to act like their girl peers.

What would tell me a girl wasn't that type, is if at a party or something she was hanging with some oddball group of people, no makeup, a little artsy or emo looking..

I've been around plenty of 'artsy/emo-looking' girls. I can't tell if they're not ESFs for sure, but let me tell you, they're not any better.

Jennifer
09-28-2008, 06:40 PM
Seriously! That's freaky!
He was the complete opposite online! Amazing!

There must be some kind of Ni we can derive from that! :D

Essentially he was using a really immature Fi + Ne combination -- the xNFP cliche -- to connect with women at least in terms of the pictures he liked to share, etc. It was a cliche. It was my mistake in thinking perhaps the cliche was the matured development.

I think that recognizing a function use as "cliche" is one indicator you can compared to function use that is more nuanced in someone, to help pinpoint what main type is versus pseudo-type.

colmena
09-28-2008, 06:41 PM
What "type" are each set of eyes?

I recognize most of those. Who are one and two?

Jen
09-28-2008, 06:45 PM
I recognize most of those. Who are one and two?shush you.

colmena
09-28-2008, 06:46 PM
*turns off lame super powers*

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 06:47 PM
Many of those eyes are recognizable.

Personally, I find pictures of eyes secondary to the whole face, and so on, and video is much better.

Haphazard
09-28-2008, 06:48 PM
I think that recognizing a function use as "cliche" is one indicator you can compared to function use that is more nuanced in someone, to help pinpoint what main type is versus pseudo-type.

Veeery interesting.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 06:52 PM
Aj you may be onto something. Here are 14 sets of eyes. What "type" are each set of eyes?

Aight:

1. ISTJ
2. INFJ
3. ENFJ
4. ENTJ
5. ENFP
6. INFP
7. INFJ
8. ISTP
9. ENFP
10. INFJ
11. ENFP
12. ENFP
13. ENFJ
14. INFJ

wow, staring at all these eyes for so long is starting to freak me out. When you can't see the rest of the face in relation to the eyes, it's a lot harder.

I recognized about 3 or 4 of those people.

colmena
09-28-2008, 07:03 PM
Many of those eyes are recognizable.

Personally, I find pictures of eyes secondary to the whole face, and so on, and video is much better.

No! NO

Down, boy, down!

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 07:03 PM
No! NO

Down, boy, down!
*chews through leash, enjoys freedom*

Jen
09-28-2008, 07:07 PM
Aight:

1. ISTJ X
2. INFJ X
3. ENFJ X
4. ENTJ X
5. ENFP X
6. INFP X
7. INFJ
8. ISTP
9. ENFP
10. INFJ X
11. ENFP X
12. ENFP X
13. ENFJ X
14. INFJ X

wow, staring at all these eyes for so long is starting to freak me out. When you can't see the rest of the face in relation to the eyes, it's a lot harder.

I recognized about 3 or 4 of those people.
1) INTP (father in law)
2) INTJ (Limey/Husband)
3) ISFJ (sister in law)
4) INFJ (mother in law)
5) ESFJ (SJ, my old neighbor who I've ranted about in my blog)
6) INFJ (cascade)
7) INFJ (wolfmaiden)
8) ISTP (greyscale)
9) ENFP (targo)
10) INTJ (npg)
11) ENFJ (brandon)
12) INFJ (cafe)
13) INFJ (me)
14) INFP (dana)

3 out of 14 correct. Point is, you've got to be a fucking idiot to think you can "type" anyone accurately by their eyes. I always score INFJ but I can be pretty much any time for a limited time if need be. I believe the older you become, the more you can manipulate who you are.

INTJMom
09-28-2008, 07:11 PM
Yes INFP again.
Doesn't that make you wonder if you really are a J?

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 07:12 PM
1) INTP (father in law)
2) INTJ (Limey/Husband)
3) ISFJ (sister in law)
4) INFJ (mother in law)
5) ESFJ (SJ, my old neighbor who I've ranted about in my blog)
6) INFJ (cascade)
7) INFJ (wolfmaiden)
8) ISTP (greyscale)
9) ENFP (targo)
10) INTJ (npg)
11) ENFJ (brandon)
12) INFJ (cafe)
13) INFJ (me)
14) INFP (dana)

3 out of 14 correct. Point is, you've got to be a fucking idiot to think you can "type" anyone accurately by their eyes. I always score INFJ but I can be pretty much any time for a limited time if need be. I believe the older you get, the more you can manipulate who you are.

damn... it really is harder though when you can't see the rest of the face, just the eyes. I said the eyes are vital when it comes to Visual ID, not that it's all you need.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 07:12 PM
Tests can be quite ridiculous tho.

disregard
09-28-2008, 07:13 PM
I agree, Jen.

You can't type by eyes. Can't type by whether or not she wears makeup.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 07:15 PM
Can't type by whether or not she wears makeup.

No, but if or how much makeup a girl wears could be indicative of some things. On average, a SF women might be more likely to wear makeup, or a large amount of makeup, compared to an NT women.

INTJMom
09-28-2008, 07:15 PM
1) INTP (father in law)
2) INTJ (Limey/Husband)
3) ISFJ (sister in law)
4) INFJ (mother in law)
5) ESFJ (SJ, my old neighbor who I've ranted about in my blog)
6) INFJ (cascade)
7) INFJ (wolfmaiden)
8) ISTP (greyscale)
9) ENFP (targo)
10) INTJ (npg)
11) ENFJ (brandon)
12) INFJ (cafe)
13) INFJ (me)
14) INFP (dana)

3 out of 14 correct. Point is, you've got to be a fucking idiot to think you can "type" anyone accurately by their eyes. I always score INFJ but I can be pretty much any time for a limited time if need be. I believe the older you become, the more you can manipulate who you are.
I KNEW #14 was an INFP!! :happy0065:

disregard
09-28-2008, 07:16 PM
Yes.. but it is only a hindrance to finding the truth to actually consider such "tendencies" when trying to accurately type someone.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 07:18 PM
Yes.. but it is only a hindrance to finding the truth to actually consider such "tendencies" when trying to accurately type someone.
LOL (I'm sorry I just saw your type field.)

The addition of all the circumstantial evidence can lead one to a decent idea of type.

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 07:21 PM
Yes.. but it is only a hindrance to finding the truth to actually consider such "tendencies" when trying to accurately type someone.

Besides knowing what someone types as on a good MBTI test, all we really have to go on is tendencies and generalizations..

disregard
09-28-2008, 07:24 PM
Besides knowing what someone types as on a good MBTI test, all we really have to go on is tendencies and generalizations..

But you have the choice to take into consideration superficialities or to pay close attention to the things they choose to discuss, what sort of conclusions they draw, how they come to them, etc.

entropie
09-28-2008, 07:27 PM
Doesn't that make you wonder if you really are a J?

Do not confuse people you do not know !

You confused me back in time alright :D

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 07:30 PM
But you have the choice to take into consideration superficialities or to pay close attention to the things they choose to discuss, what sort of conclusions they draw, how they come to them, etc.

Yeah what's going on in a person's head is more important concerning their type, but someone's mental state and style will often show itself on the outside too.

Lots of times superficialities are all we have to go by at first, until we really get to know the person better.

INTJMom
09-28-2008, 07:31 PM
Do not confuse people you do not know !

You confused me back in time alright :D
I'm terribly sorry. :blush:

disregard
09-28-2008, 07:40 PM
Yeah what's going on in a person's head is more important concerning their type, but someone's mental state and style will often show itself on the outside too.

Lots of times superficialities are all we have to go by at first, until we really get to know the person better.

What is the point of assigning a type (which is based on cognitive processes) to someone if you only have superficialities to go by?

That's just useless confirmation bias.

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 07:41 PM
That's only one of several methods. I only use F.A. as a backup.

disregard
09-28-2008, 07:42 PM
FA?

Jack Flak
09-28-2008, 07:42 PM
Functional analysis

ajblaise
09-28-2008, 07:45 PM
What is the point of assigning a type (which is based on cognitive processes) to someone if you only have superficialities to go by?

That's just useless confirmation bias.

Not much, besides some kind of personal satisfaction and a sense of knowing your social surroundings better.

Superficialities are just clues, albeit one of the weaker ones, into getting to know someone's personality.

Jen
09-28-2008, 07:48 PM
FA?
I took that as he uses "fuck all" as a backup. :laugh:

Orangey
09-29-2008, 01:14 AM
I'm sure there were a lot of non-ESFJ's and the like I over looked... because since ESFJ's and ESFP's dominate the other types of girls might somehow blend in and maybe even try to act like their girl peers.

What would tell me a girl wasn't that type, is if at a party or something she was hanging with some oddball group of people, no makeup, a little artsy or emo looking..

Looking artsy or emo, to me at least, suggests a higher-than-usual preoccupation with appearance. While that may fly for certain NF types who are trying to make a social statement or something, I certainly wouldn't put that much thought or effort into what I looked like. Just fixing oneself up enough to blend in with the crowd takes little effort or thought by comparison.

And don't forget the whole "mirroring" phenomenon that is supposedly an attribute of NT-ness.

ZiL
09-29-2008, 01:24 AM
Looking artsy or emo, to me at least, suggests a higher-than-usual preoccupation with appearance. While that may fly for certain NF types who are trying to make a social statement or something, I certainly wouldn't put that much thought or effort into what I looked like. Just fixing oneself up enough to blend in with the crowd takes little effort or thought by comparison.

And don't forget the whole "mirroring" phenomenon that is supposedly an attribute of NT-ness.


Yeah, I've definitely seen some artsy/emo-dressing types who are about as normal as you can get. I go to shows sometimes and it's like a convention of people who are dressed to the nines in artsy gear but are more interested in showing themselves off and being seen than paying any attention to the music. The way someone's acting will definitely help discern between those who dress a certain way to fit in to an atmosphere or those who do so to make a statement/are really wanting to be different out of some idealistic goal....

Haphazard
09-29-2008, 01:26 AM
The thing about how it seems like Ns would dress... they wouldn't look like they had any clique alignment, like very preppy or very goth or anything, but I'm guessing that they might continue to wear clothes that were out of style a few years ago because they still had them and they hadn't worn out, wearing minimal accessories, clothes sort of matching but not quite, keeping typical choices to things that would match anything (no strange-colored pants that only go with specific things, etc)...

Not quite so bad as the 'no matching socks' phenomenon, but similar, just more subtle.

Tallulah
09-29-2008, 01:34 AM
No, but if or how much makeup a girl wears could be indicative of some things. On average, a SF women might be more likely to wear makeup, or a large amount of makeup, compared to an NT women.

Not necessarily. I'm definitely an NT woman, and I actually enjoy playing around a bit with makeup. I usually wear it unless I'm going to the gym or something. I think everyone expects NT women to look like Janeane Garafalo.

re: the hanging out in packs thing, I don't really have any ESFJ friends, but my NFJ and NFP friends like makeup, too, and they wouldn't fit your template, either. If you want to know what someone's like, you'll just have to talk to them.

disregard
09-29-2008, 01:35 AM
I KNEW #14 was an INFP!! :happy0065:

Why?

(Tis I.)

prplchknz
09-29-2008, 01:46 AM
The thing about how it seems like Ns would dress... they wouldn't look like they had any clique alignment, like very preppy or very goth or anything, but I'm guessing that they might continue to wear clothes that were out of style a few years ago because they still had them and they hadn't worn out, wearing minimal accessories, clothes sort of matching but not quite, keeping typical choices to things that would match anything (no strange-colored pants that only go with specific things, etc)...

Not quite so bad as the 'no matching socks' phenomenon, but similar, just more subtle.

that's how I dress. why stop wearing something cuz it's no longer in style? if it fits and is comfortable why not?

INTJMom
09-29-2008, 01:47 AM
Why?

(Tis I.)
Oh, I can't explain it. It was just an impression. My sister's an INFP, so I guess the eyes reminded me of her.
But you're an INTP.
So then I was wrong after all.

whatever
09-29-2008, 01:52 AM
Not necessarily. I'm definitely an NT woman, and I actually enjoy playing around a bit with makeup. I usually wear it unless I'm going to the gym or something. I think everyone expects NT women to look like Janeane Garafalo.

re: the hanging out in packs thing, I don't really have any ESFJ friends, but my NFJ and NFP friends like makeup, too, and they wouldn't fit your template, either. If you want to know what someone's like, you'll just have to talk to them.

Definitley agreeing!

I rarely go into public (with exception to the gym and laundry mat) without makeup on. I have an ESFJ friend who doesn't wear makeup at all, and another who I've never seen without her's perfectly done.

I don't think that type necissarily dictates makeup preferences :)

* aside- awesome eye set and proof Jen!

Jack Flak
09-29-2008, 01:52 AM
Oh, I can't explain it. It was just an impression. My sister's an INFP, so I guess the eyes reminded me of her.
But you're an INTP.
So then I was wrong after all.
No chance on God's Green Earth.

disregard
09-29-2008, 01:55 AM
Reasons, Jack Flak. You must have reasons for me to consider your opinion.

Jack Flak
09-29-2008, 01:56 AM
Reasons, Jack Flak. You must have reasons for me to consider your opinion.
1. You're INFP

Jeffster
09-29-2008, 01:59 AM
1. You're INFP

He's saying you're nuts. But not in that "I'm a mad scientist, making a robot out of peanut butter jars to take over the world" kind of way, but more in the "I'm a fairy and I'm going to ride the magic purple dragon to the magic candy castle" kind of way.

prplchknz
09-29-2008, 02:00 AM
He's saying you're nuts. But not in that "I'm a mad scientist, making a robot out of peanut butter jars to take over the world" kind of way, but more in the "I'm a fairy and I'm going to ride the magic purple dragon to the magic candy castle" kind of way.

ok I am defiently INFP according to Jeffster, I just related to the second scenerio.

I'm a sterotype. clearly

Babylon Candle
10-05-2008, 04:19 AM
ok I am defiently INFP according to Jeffster, I just related to the second scenerio.

I'm a sterotype. clearly

ok, but i related to the first....and yet im ENFP... how do you explain that one??? :devil:

animenagai
10-05-2008, 04:32 AM
The thing about how it seems like Ns would dress... they wouldn't look like they had any clique alignment, like very preppy or very goth or anything, but I'm guessing that they might continue to wear clothes that were out of style a few years ago because they still had them and they hadn't worn out, wearing minimal accessories, clothes sort of matching but not quite, keeping typical choices to things that would match anything (no strange-colored pants that only go with specific things, etc)...

Not quite so bad as the 'no matching socks' phenomenon, but similar, just more subtle.

that pretty much applies to me. if i was rich i may use my money to get all fashioned up as a hobby, but since i don't, i save my money for other uses. i just wear the same few shirts, jackets and jeans over and over again. i want people to like me, but what i wear doesn't define me, so why should i go nuts about it?

Sunshine
10-05-2008, 05:42 AM
You know I'm actually not an ABCD. I'm mystyped. I'm really a WXYZ.

whatever
10-05-2008, 05:44 AM
Likely. But who gives a fuck, it's over now.

cool- I should pay more attention I suppose :doh:

(not that I'd necissarily want to)

entropie
10-05-2008, 05:46 AM
Jeffster is pr0n, totally :D

whatever
10-05-2008, 06:00 AM
Jeffster is pr0n, totally :D

I don't know- FRAT seems somewhat fitting with his lady choices as well :devil:

entropie
10-05-2008, 06:04 AM
You are right, but:

I would go in my lady choices with whatever :D

The_Liquid_Laser
10-05-2008, 12:19 PM
FDG = ESTP

Haphazard
10-05-2008, 01:22 PM
I was going to make another type-me thread, and then I remembered that I don't know anything about myself...

Jeffster
10-05-2008, 01:24 PM
I was going to make another type-me thread, and then I remembered that I don't know anything about myself...

You should just participate in mine instead! :cool:

Haphazard
10-05-2008, 01:25 PM
You should just participate in mine instead! :cool:

You drive a good argument...

Edahn
10-06-2008, 03:03 PM
Posts about Babylon Candle's type moved here (http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/what-s-my-type/9313-16-babylon-candles.html).

Night
10-06-2008, 06:42 PM
Does anyone believe my transition to an ENTP is more appropriate than my earlier INTJ label?

Is there a better type you might assign to me?

CaptainChick
10-06-2008, 06:42 PM
I can only speak for ENFPs, but we do happen to be a pretty self-aware type, it has something to do with that Fi, if you ask me.

Also, Nocap, um, where oh where are you getting your information from?

:huh:

Mitzy
10-06-2008, 06:42 PM
Does anyone believe my transition to an ENTP is more appropriate than my earlier INTJ label?

Is there a better type you might assign to me?


who cares?! :cheese:

Jack Flak
10-06-2008, 06:43 PM
Night: I seem to remember that INTJ label, and it seemed to fit. Not sure tho.

Night
10-06-2008, 06:43 PM
You, it would seem.

I hope others have a more uplifting sentiment.

Night: I seem to remember that INTJ label, and it seemed to fit. Not sure tho.

Thanks man. Any reason in particular?

whatever
10-06-2008, 06:44 PM
Night- you always had a bit of an INTJ vibe about you to me somehow, but that may be the 9/8 enneagram thing :)

Uberfuhrer
10-06-2008, 06:44 PM
Should one's age be considered when analyzing one's type?

And whether or not they have a MySpace account.

Night
10-06-2008, 06:45 PM
9/8 is precisely correct, whatever. Perhaps the Enneagram is a stronger measuring stick.

Thanks for the nod. ;)

Babylon Candle
10-06-2008, 06:45 PM
who cares?! :cheese:

104 pages seems like a lot to go through for a "who cares"... :smirk:

Mitzy
10-06-2008, 06:47 PM
who are you to tell me who i should judge

Tallulah
10-06-2008, 06:47 PM
Does anyone believe my transition to an ENTP is more appropriate than my earlier INTJ label?

Is there a better type you might assign to me?

I would have said INFJ for you, though it's just more of a "feel" thing, to me. I'm not sure I could explain it.

ThatGirl
10-06-2008, 06:47 PM
I think that demographics and age will play a large part in how a type is precieved.

Lateralus
10-06-2008, 06:48 PM
so basically what youre saying is...

youre jealous & insecure & you feel threaten therefore i am not an entp

good one.
Haha, what? Just because someone doesn't like what you have to say doesn't mean they're jealous. In fact, I think your reaction is very telling. Compensating, perhaps?

whatever
10-06-2008, 06:49 PM
who are you to tell me who i should judge

actually, maybe my origional assessment wasn't that far off :whistling:


*whatever LOVES patterns...*

Babylon Candle
10-06-2008, 06:49 PM
who are you to tell me who i should judge

was that directed at me?

Mitzy
10-06-2008, 06:49 PM
i just like pushing people's buttons because it tickles me

Night
10-06-2008, 06:50 PM
I would have said INFJ for you, though it's just more of a "feel" thing, to me. I'm not sure I could explain it.

Thanks, Tallulah.

I think it's probably in part to my professional training. I used to teach for a few years before transitioning into my present job. A big part of teaching is establishing emotional connection with one's students - if to enhance the impact of one's curriculum.

The INFJ is certainly a likelihood.

Cimarron
10-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Oh, is this the convo thread? :cool:

whatever
10-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Thanks, Tallulah.

I think it's probably in part to my professional training. I used to teach for a few years before transitioning into my present job. A big part of teaching is establishing emotional connection with one's students - if to enhance the impact of one's curriculum.

The INFJ is certainly a likelihood.

I get a definite IxxJ calm from you, but you seem to be more placid than an INFJ to me somehow... I don't know, that's just the read that I get from the surface :)

CaptainChick
10-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Seriously CC, you have no goddamn idea about typology. Im correct.

Heres my proof: no introverted perception.
failure I be aware of self. Even strong introverted judgement doesn't suffice.

If it's any consolation, and knowing you, it will be, I__Js aren't normally very aware of their surroundings.
Pfft, "no introverted perception"

Define introverted perception please, and does Fi qualify as introverted perception?

ENFP's interpersonal communication skills are a reflection of their intrapersonal awareness. After all, the more one knows one's self, the more one's able to know others.

I am not discussing any other type besides my own. So no, your assessment of I__Js comes as NO consolation.

Mitzy
10-06-2008, 06:51 PM
was that directed at me?

negative. night