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[Gabe]

:shocking: BlueWing makes a very good case here.

All bluewing is doing is telling us about how poriferan didn't lay out each step of his 'arguement'- and in doing so, BW again displayed his own obvious Te preference yet again.

On the other hand, INTPs often DON'T seem very logical to others, sometimes they don't even seem logical to other Ti's. Ti=INTROVERTED thinking.

[Thursday]

All bluewing is doing is telling us about how poriferan didn't lay out each step of his 'arguement'- and in doing so, BW again displayed his own obvious Te preference yet again.

On the other hand, INTPs often DON'T seem very logical to others, sometimes they don't even seem logical to other Ti's. Ti=SUBJECTIVE thinking.

Fixed

[heart]

On the other hand, INTPs often DON'T seem very logical to others, sometimes they don't even seem logical to other Ti's. Ti=INTROVERTED thinking.

I disagree with this. I think many INTP display their Ti in their postings.

[Magic Poriferan]

Fixed

Ummm.. By definition, Ti is Introverted Thinking. Also, Thinking is more objective than Feeling. So what are you getting at?

[entropie]

Your thinking is not objective :)

[Thursday]

Ummm.. By definition, Ti is Introverted Thinking. Also, Thinking is more objective than Feeling. So what you getting at?

when i was reading jungs descriptions of the functions,
he referred to introverted as subjective
which is true

furthermore, he referred to the Ti and Fi as interchangeable

i am " getting at " nothing more than that

[entropie]

averex got a point there !

[Magic Poriferan]

What do you think he meant by interchangeable?

[entropie]

dont know, but it well sounds good xD

[entropie]

Tell him, you never knew that sheep was 16 xD

[Gabe]

Fixed

Thanks!:D

[Thursday]

What do you think he meant by interchangeable?

yeah
as soon as i read that, i was like " wha ? "

but.....
subjective thinking could be equated to feeling-its more mystical than factual like Te

Fi is like saying subjective-subjectivity

thus, interchangeable

just why it was not said about Fe and Te, i will never know
well, that is until Ni comes out of nowhere wearing nothing but a cabana boy T-shirt and tells me

[entropie]

I am out for now, gn8 to you, tomorrow I want to see page 64 in this post !

You get it, sports xD

[entropie]

By the way, while putting on my pyjamas it just come to my mind:

1) You should think about putting your own stones together before, throwing them on someone else

2) You should think about, what you want to accomplish here for anyone, if not for yourself

3) You should now that we all here are out of the same reason, so great differences cant be

4) And important of all, you should think that MBTI is only something that gives hope to hopeless people not a scientific guideline

4th is hard and I dont like it, but it's true

[Gabe]

I disagree with this. I think many INTP display their Ti in their postings.

I never said they don't display thier Ti.

[Giggly]

There seems to be two major groups of people here, 1. The ones who cling to and express a devotion to their type with a gang-like passion and 2. The ones who don't want to be pinned down to any one type and dodge it at all costs.


And BlueWing, don't take this the wrong way, but I totally want to buy you a drink (several in fact, very stiff ones) if we ever meet IRL. :D

Me too.

Also, what does "XD" symbolize? I never knew.

[Haphazard]

Also, what does "XD" symbolize? I never knew.

Turn your head sideways. It's a laughing face.

Well, I like my type, but I don't necessarily like other members of it.

[Magic Poriferan]

There seems to be two major groups of people here, 1. The ones who cling to and express a devotion to their type with a gang-like passion and 2. The ones who don't want to be pinned down to any one type and dodge it at all costs.


Well, I(obviously) feel like defending my title as an INTP, but that doesn't mean I feel much loyalty to anyone else that's an INTP. No gang mentality for me. But yes, if you just throw in a little mention for people like me and haphazard, you basically have an accurate picture of the MBTI community

[Haphazard]

I've just got to wonder, though...

Why is BlueWing picking to bicker over Poriferan over everyone else? Is he just that special?

[Thursday]

On a lighter fair
how the hell do i come off as an INFP ?
details people

[Magic Poriferan]

I've just got to wonder, though...

Why is BlueWing picking to bicker over Poriferan over everyone else? Is he just that special?


Obviously, this question is on my mind, too. You know how much time he must have taken? :huh:

[Giggly]

Obviously, this question is on my mind, too. You know how much time he must have taken? :huh:

He hates F and he thinks you have too much F, so therefore he doesn't want you in his INTP gang.

...Or maybe he's just got nothing better to do and this is what he does when he's bored out of his mind.

[Magic Poriferan]

...Or maybe he's just got nothing better to do and this is what he does when he's bored out of his mind.

That makes me feel pretty unlucky. Of all the directions his boredom could take him, he winds up trying to pick me apart with pages upon pages of material.

[Babylon Candle]

He hates F and he thinks you have too much F, so therefore he doesn't want you in his INTP gang.

...Or maybe he's just got nothing better to do and this is what he does when he's bored out of his mind.

Real Men of Genius: BLUE WING {cue Cheesy Beer commercial music/voice over}


{singing} " REEAAAALL MEN OF GENIUUUUUUUUUU-UUUUSSSS ..... Mr Way Too Long of Posts-forum know it all" {/singing}

We salute you, mr "way too long of posts-forum know it all".
Without you, who else would be buying replacement keyboards....in bulk.
While most people come for the Myers Brigg, and stay for the emoticons,
You've got the REAL guts, the guts to take the bandwidth you DESERVE!
Some call it the egghead disease, others: diarrheas of the keyboard, and still yet others name it having way too much ****ing free time.
But not you! No! You carry on the masochistic sense of research and over thinking to make Rube Goldberg and Michael Moore's illegitimate childlike ball of neurotiscism proud!

{cue background singing: "paralysis by analysis!"}

So crack open an Ice cold Bud light Oh master of the carpal tunnel, the aspiring content editors of the room thank you for inspiring the slash and burn!


:D:devil:;)

[Ivy]

MP: your "title" as an INTP?

[Jen]

I've given this a lot of thought over the last week or so and taken everyone's comments into account and here's what I've discovered. I am every type and every type is me. Moving forward. :)

[Geoff]

I've given this a lot of thought and here's what I've discovered. I am every type and every type is me. Moving forward. :)

Every person possesses all functions to varying degrees of preference. So we all contain facets of every type. The way we choose or are made to prefer to behave gives us a type, but with maturity and experience we can access all the others. That's how we grow :)

[Ivy]

Re: BlueWing's typing of MP

I can totally see why one wouldn't want to be branded an F by BlueWing since he has a whole set of lore about Fs that isn't very flattering. Still, I've long thought MP seemed more INFPish (not an insult) than INTPish. Never bothered to build a case for it since *ahem* it doesn't matter, but after subtracting the anti-F bias from BlueWing's posts he makes a pretty solid one, IMO.

[Nocap]

Thank you Ivy.


The problem in this thread is that so few people truly understand typology well enough to tell the difference between Ti and F.

Magic Poriferan does frequently, admit it or not, make value judgements. Regardless of visible emotions (which he dismissed as non-F or... inconclusively mistaken as F... whatever bullshit he was trying to throw down) there's still plenty of evidence -- more than just what BlueWing posted quotes of -- showing that he's more F than T.

Feeling judgement can be displayed in a number of ways. Sometimes by raw emotive action, or sometimes by professing values just like Thinking can be demonstrated by mean behavior, or can be identified by their thorough diagram of a concept.

They're not always present in the same situations.

[Jennifer]

All bluewing is doing is telling us about how poriferan didn't lay out each step of his 'arguement'- and in doing so, BW again displayed his own obvious Te preference yet again.

Ick, don't go there.

You're not allowed to use Te if you're an INTP?
Making an argument in a post where you lay out various steps is now grounds to dismiss an INTP read?
That's unrealistic. How else can you make an argument?

I have to say, if you also grow up in an environment that is antagonistic or seeks to devalue your opinion, you quickly pick up a Te-mentality in order to defend yourself, regardless of your type, at least if you're in the 'thinker' camp.

(As one example from my personal experience, the conservative church values Te thinking and devalues Ti in an argument, because it likes clear and detailed "proof" of your position and doesn't like ambiguity or conceptual thought very much as a basis for faith. I realized why I felt so awful much of the time in that environment; and part of it was that I was being forced to Te my belief statements when I just don't work that way naturally.)

On the other hand, INTPs often DON'T seem very logical to others, sometimes they don't even seem logical to other Ti's. Ti=INTROVERTED thinking.

I disagree with this. I think many INTP display their Ti in their postings.

I never said they don't display thier Ti.

I think in writing the Ti is far more obvious. In person or in casual dialogues, usually the Ne is much more visible, and since the Ti is always processing new information, it's hard to want to commit externally to a particular argument (which keeps it hidden too).

[Eric B]

Ick, don't go there.

You're not allowed to use Te if you're an INTP?
Making an argument in a post where you lay out various steps is now grounds to dismiss an INTP read?
That's unrealistic. How else can you make an argument?

I have to say, if you also grow up in an environment that is antagonistic or seeks to devalue your opinion, you quickly pick up a Te-mentality in order to defend yourself, regardless of your type, at least if you're in the 'thinker' camp.

(As one example from my personal experience, the conservative church values Te thinking and devalues Ti in an argument, because it likes clear and detailed "proof" of your position and doesn't like ambiguity or conceptual thought very much as a basis for faith. I realized why I felt so awful much of the time in that environment; and part of it was that I was being forced to Te my belief statements when I just don't work that way naturally.)
This is precisely my experience. Before getting into type, most of my time was on a Christian debate board, and it is all Te-land. They can take scripture ["proof"]-texts and make the Bible say anything anyone could possibly want it to say. They treated it just like a jigsaw puzzle (an analogy for Te use) with each individual "verse" as a piece, yet if you just take things in context and look for underlying frameworks and principles, then things begin to make more coherent sense.
And then growing up in an STJ environment, it was easy to learn and apply the argument skills. And then consider that Te is the "oppositional/backup" for Ti, Ne also seems to "project" it outward, it will be easy for the NTP to use Te. As I say, if you take ideas and theories apart, you have to put them back together again.

[booyalab]

I don't know if INTJs would go through such overkill in trying to get across their point...:shock:

He's an INTP with an underdeveloped auxiliary process. I think it's funny.

I agree with the people who say Magic Poriferan doesn't seem very T. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Stigmatic]

Ick, don't go there.

You're not allowed to use Te if you're an INTP?
Making an argument in a post where you lay out various steps is now grounds to dismiss an INTP read?
That's unrealistic. How else can you make an argument?

I have to say, if you also grow up in an environment that is antagonistic or seeks to devalue your opinion, you quickly pick up a Te-mentality in order to defend yourself, regardless of your type, at least if you're in the 'thinker' camp.

Also, if you are already a T, adapting to an antagonistic environment could skew your true type to seem more J than you are. An ENTP ends up looking like an ENTJ.

[Haphazard]

He's an INTP with an underdeveloped auxiliary process. I think it's funny.

I know, but nobody seems to believe me when I say that...

[Jennifer]

Also, if you are already a T, adapting to an antagonistic environment could skew your true type to seem more J than you are. An ENTP ends up looking like an ENTJ.

well, at least in terms of Te expression.

(The two ENTx types use different functions.)

That's how you can tease out the difference.
An ENTJ is Te + Ni + Se + Fi
An ENTP is Ne + Ti + Fe + Si.

An ENTP with Te forced on them could look like:
Te + Ti + Fe + Si
or
Te + Ne + Fe + Si
or some other weird combination.

But I think "Te" forced on someone usually squelches out the fuzzier/softer functions first. Eric B seems to suggest this as well -- that the Ne gets supplanted or channels Te outwards, rather than existing as itself per se.

[Eric B]

yeah
as soon as i read that, i was like " wha ? "

but.....
subjective thinking could be equated to feeling-its more mystical than factual like Te

Fi is like saying subjective-subjectivity

thus, interchangeable

just why it was not said about Fe and Te, i will never know
well, that is until Ni comes out of nowhere wearing nothing but a cabana boy T-shirt and tells me

Thinking is generally condsidered "objective", based on logic and facts, while Feeling is considered subjective "values".

"extraverted attitudes" (outside use) is also considered "objective", while introverted attitudes are considered subjective, because they are taking place within the person. (For perception, the attitude is the "source" it is taken from, and for judgment, it is the "realm" it is used in).

Sensing (concrete perception) is also considered more "objective", while iNtuiting (abstract) is considered subjective, because it involves the person drawing from patterns and stuff.

I then came up with an idea of shorthanding the processes with "o" for "objective" and "u" for "subjective".

Se objective data from objective source O/O
Si objective data from subjective source O/U
Ne subjective data from objective source U/O
Ni subjective data from subjective source U/U
Te objective judgment in objective realm o/o
Ti objective judgment in subjective realm o/u
Fe subjective judgment in objective realm u/o
Fi subjective judgment in subjective realm u/u

[Gabe]

Ick, don't go there.

You're not allowed to use Te if you're an INTP?
Making an argument in a post where you lay out various steps is now grounds to dismiss an INTP read?
That's unrealistic. How else can you make an argument?

I have to say, if you also grow up in an environment that is antagonistic or seeks to devalue your opinion, you quickly pick up a Te-mentality in order to defend yourself, regardless of your type, at least if you're in the 'thinker' camp.

(As one example from my personal experience, the conservative church values Te thinking and devalues Ti in an argument, because it likes clear and detailed "proof" of your position and doesn't like ambiguity or conceptual thought very much as a basis for faith. I realized why I felt so awful much of the time in that environment; and part of it was that I was being forced to Te my belief statements when I just don't work that way naturally.)







I think in writing the Ti is far more obvious. In person or in casual dialogues, usually the Ne is much more visible, and since the Ti is always processing new information, it's hard to want to commit externally to a particular argument (which keeps it hidden too).

But why would an INTP use much Te in writing? One has all the time in the world to respond, and in general, writing leaves tons of space for expression of introverted functions.

You could argue using several principles and frameworks, without ever fully mentioning all of them.

If you feel so drawn to using Te in your writing, maybe you are a different type.


In general, I must admit I'm very dissapionted by how people are falling for BW's nonsense. I read MP's two long posts, they provided an EXCELLENT explaination, and one that looked a lot more like Ti than anything BW has ever written. In fact, MP may be one of the few "INTP"s who actually is an INTP.

[Jennifer]

But why would an INTP use much Te in writing? One has all the time in the world to respond, and in general, writing leaves tons of space for expression of introverted functions.

You could argue using several principles and frameworks, without ever fully mentioning all of them. If you feel so drawn to using Te in your writing, maybe you are a different type.

No, honestly, if you were brought up in a hostile environment, it filters into your writing. Were you brought up in a religious environment like I mentioned earlier? This was my experience directly: I felt like I had to "prove" my faith and would try to Te everything, get stuck in apologetic cycles, and generally feel shitty after awhile because it just was far too much detail and focus on external argument.

And this was in my WRITING.

It really gets in there and screws you up.

(Can you imagine trying to force Ti concepts through Te writing? You have to be extremely detailed... but you still have that 'web / big picture" thing going. So there's no end to the detail you need... and realistically there is also no way to translate a mental model into 2d Te-style linear terms, although you try and try, so you always feel inadequate and like you're failing.

True Te people don't care about a consistent big picture as much. They're more fine with choppy, little bullet-point proofs that only settle their particular point and then are just assumed to cover everything somehow. not as much need for nuance.)

The writing I was not ashamed or conflicted over was far more Ti and/or Ni in nature.

In general, I must admit I'm very dissapionted by how people are falling for BW's nonsense. I read MP's two long posts, they provided an EXCELLENT explaination, and one that looked a lot more like Ti than anything BW has ever written. In fact, MP may be one of the few "INTP"s who actually is an INTP.

I guess that's your opinion.

I've known BW for two years, and in a few other contexts and situations, so it doesn't appear to be nonsense to me. But you are entitled to your opinion.

And I see the point being made by those discussing Magic's type. (Personally, I don't know him well enough to involve myself, but I see why they are saying what they are.)

[Eric B]

No, honestly, if you were brought up in a hostile environment, it filters into your writing. Were you brought up in a religious environment like I mentioned earlier? This was my experience directly: I felt like I had to "prove" my faith and would try to Te everything, get stuck in apologetic cycles, and generally feel shitty after awhile because it just was far too much detail and focus on external argument.

And this was in my WRITING.

It really gets in there and screws you up.

(Can you imagine trying to force Ti concepts through Te writing? You have to be extremely detailed... but you still have that 'web / big picture" thing going. So there's no end to the detail you need... and realistically there is also no way to translate a mental model into 2d Te-style linear terms, although you try and try, so you always feel inadequate and like you're failing.
Wow, that explains a lot!
Hence it's incredibly stressful and mentally exhausting. Why I had to take a break from the endless religious debating!

[PinkPiranha]

I'm an ESTJ. WATCH OUT.

[Haphazard]

I'm an ESTJ. WATCH OUT.

Watching out, watching out!


Okay, if I had to guess the order of BlueWing's functions, they'd be Ti + Te + Si.

That's impossible according to Myers-Briggs. Or maybe Bluewing is just trying to extrovert Ti, and is coming up with limited success.

If BlueWing is an INTJ, where's Ni?

[Jennifer]

...If BlueWing is an INTJ, where's Ni?

That's one reason he's not INTJ.

He doesn't have one.

And if he did, it would be screwing with his Ti pretty badly.

Ti needs a frame of reference to work within.
Ni inherently believes that frames of reference are arbitrary.

Thus, in a nutshell, Ni resorts to Ti's arguments with a, "Well, YOU say" response.
Ni "trumps" Ti in the functional equivalent of "rock, scissors, paper."

BW has total faith in his conceptual reasoning process and expresses none of the doubt that Ni usually cultivates.

[MacGuffin]

That's one reason he's not INTJ.

He doesn't have one.

And if he did, it would be screwing with his Ti pretty badly.

Ti needs a frame of reference to work within.
Ni inherently believes that frames of reference are arbitrary.

Thus, in a nutshell, Ni resorts to Ti's arguments with a, "Well, YOU say" response.
Ni "trumps" Ti in the functional equivalent of "rock, scissors, paper."

BW has total faith in his conceptual reasoning process and expresses none of the doubt that Ni usually cultivates.
If he had Ni, he wouldn't have much Ti.

[PinkPiranha]

Sewer Space Clown, make us laugh with your hilarious ESFP ways.

[Haphazard]

If he had Ni, he wouldn't have much Ti.

Right! If he had both, it would either make him an NFJ or an STP, and in both of them one either has a lot of Ti and not much Ni, or a lot of Ni, and not much Ti.

For some reason, I don't think he's an STP or an NFJ, and if Ni was on top of Ti in his case, I have a feeling his writing would make much less sense than it does.

[Edahn]

Tip of the Hat to BlueWing.

[Jennifer]

... if Ni was on top of Ti in his case, I have a feeling his writing would make much less sense than it does.

Which leads us back to Elfinchilde and Wildcat?

[Mondo]

BlueWing is an INTP!!!!!!!
I think it's just that a whole lot of you don't want him to be one...
His style isn't like many of the other INTP's on this board (Haight, Jennifer, Xander..) but he is still an INTP- his long philosophical posts show strong Ti..

A Ti is intolerant of stupidity and he thinks y'all are stupid for not understanding his posts..at least he perceives it as a lack of understanding. I don't think that's the case for those who have been arguing with him.. but I think that's what he's thinking.

[Nocap]

I think BlueWing's and my own type are skewed because of whatever internal influence knowledge of typology has on us, hence the confusion.

[arcticangel02]

Wow. This thread is involved.

:popc1:

[Gabe]

Watching out, watching out!


Okay, if I had to guess the order of BlueWing's functions, they'd be Ti + Te + Si.

That's impossible according to Myers-Briggs. Or maybe Bluewing is just trying to extrovert Ti, and is coming up with limited success.

If BlueWing is an INTJ, where's Ni?

in his vivid imagination that he's not showing us. He's all about playing the movies in his head, but the problem is that they're dumb 1950s movies. That's why what he pretends to describe about the real world sounds more like a scene from "The Honeymooners".

[Ivy]

Don't hurt me, Martoon. :(

(Just a sec on that request.)

[MacGuffin]

Don't hurt me, Martoon. :(

(Just a sec on that request.)
:P



This is an interesting discussion on INTPs and anger. Could one of the madmins be so kind as to split the relevant posts off into another thread? If you don't, I'll be really, really pissed. :steam:
Fine!

Moved here (http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/dumpster/7089-intps-anger.html), Dr. Banner.

[Jennifer]

in his vivid imagination that he's not showing us. He's all about playing the movies in his head, but the problem is that they're dumb 1950s movies. That's why what he pretends to describe about the real world sounds more like a scene from "The Honeymooners".

What? :huh:

...and your evidence is, "all the stuff in his head that we can't see... but I know it's in there."
Interesting.

[proteanmix]

Maverick, since when are you an ENFJ? Can we paint each other's toenails?

[Maverick]

Maverick, since when are you an ENFJ? Can we paint each other's toenails?

Lovely :smile:

Since I finally realized that it didn't matter if I was "rational", I'm interested in people and relationships first and foremost! :yes:

[Eric B]

Watching out, watching out!

Okay, if I had to guess the order of BlueWing's functions, they'd be Ti + Te + Si.

That's impossible according to Myers-Briggs. Or maybe Bluewing is just trying to extrovert Ti, and is coming up with limited success.
It's only impossible in the archetype roles, but not in the strengths. Ideally, you would think the strengths would fall into the familiar order of Myers-Briggs, but the Cognitive Processes test suggests they can be in any different order. However, the archetypal roles will still be the same, and that's what those "places" (dom, aux, ter, etc) really are. Te will still be "oppositional" (5th place, and very "shadowy, associated with stress and requiring a lot of energy to use). Ne will still be "supporting" though there may be other functions apparently getting ahead of it in strength.

I'm wondering why again, people are saying BW lacks Ne. Someone may have mentioned it before, but I forgot.

[Edahn]

Discussion about subjective/objective input differences across types moved to ... er ... the aptly named Subjective/Objective Input Differences Across Types (http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/mbti-enneagram-other-personality-matrices/7098-subjective-objective-input-differences-across-types-split.html#post267278).

[Magic Poriferan]

I've made my case. I'm entirely confident that I'm not an INFP, even if I'm not an INTP(hence the INXP consideration).

I'm tired of this whole "don't feel bad about being an F" thing. It's like mistaking a straight-man for being gay, and then telling him not to worry about it. No, there's nothing wrong with being gay, but it's pretty annoying to have everyone think you're gay when you are not.

Putting my case so far aside, I'd point out that no MBTI test has ever made me an F. I've taken plenty, many several times, and I've never been an F.
I've also done a great deal of reading on type descriptions. I've taken many different samples of that, and I've never found the INFP description more identifiable than the INTP one.

Aside from BlueWing's first ramble, and a few, small jabs from Nocapszy, no one else here has provided any comment other than me "seeming like an F" whatever that means. Again, I think it comes around to an emphasis on superficial, irrelevant qualities. Nor have you responded to my case.

And, more than me even being incorrectly perceived as an F, I'm taking objection to the idea that BlueWing has put together a great piece of work. It's just really long, not even as well presented as I would have made it, and mostly relies on completely misusing my words.

[Nocap]

I've made my case. I'm entirely confident that I'm not an INFP, even if I'm not an INTP(hence the INXP consideration).

I'm tired of this whole "don't feel bad about being an F" thing. It's like mistaking a straight-man for being gay, and then telling him not to worry about it. No, there's nothing wrong with being gay, but it's pretty annoying to have everyone think you're gay when you are not.

Putting my case so far aside, I'd point out that no MBTI test has ever made me an F. I've taken plenty, many several times, and I've never been an F.
I've also done a great deal of reading on type descriptions. I've taken many different samples of that, and I've never found the INFP description more identifiable than the INTP one.

Aside from BlueWing's first ramble, and a few, small jabs from Nocapszy, no one else here has provided any comment other than me "seeming like an F" whatever that means. Again, I think it comes around to an emphasis on superficial, irrelevant qualities. Nor have you responded to my case.

And, more than me even being incorrectly perceived as an F, I'm taking objection to the idea that BlueWing has put together a great piece of work. He has. You disagree because you don't like the outcome. You're attached to being a T.

It's just really long, Because it's rigorous... yours was long... not even as well presented as I would have made it, and mostly relies on completely misusing my words.He doesn't misuse your words at all...

Did you really even read his damn post? If you did, I'm guessing you were too aggravated or upset to pay enough attention to what he said.

For the record, I never said I think you're INFP. I think you're INFJ.

Lots of INFJs confuse themselves for INTPs. Ask SH.

[Evan]

For the record, I never said I think you're INFP. I think you're INFJ.

Lots of INFJs confuse themselves for INTPs. Ask SH.

i did too.

[Magic Poriferan]

MP.

You need to honestly check yourself.

You have explicitly taken numerous pot-shots at me in the past week.

This is true. I tried to be factual and honest in my last comment, not insulting, but it was criticism..


He has. You disagree because you don't like the outcome. You're attached to being a T.

I'm convinced that I'm a T. I don't like it because I think what he's saying is bullshit. A lot of you seem to forget that I was the first person on this forum to make topic questioning my type. I've already offered the possibility that I'm an F. This is not a hard concept for me to handle, it was that I've simply concluded it to be wrong after thinking about it for a good long while.


Because it's rigorous... yours was long... He doesn't misuse your words at all...

It was JUST long. As in, the length is one of the only things it can say for itself, and that doesn't amount to much.



Did you really even read his damn post? If you did, I'm guessing you were too aggravated or upset to pay enough attention to what he said.

Pointless rhetorical question, maybe just for annoying me or amusing yourself.


For the record, I never said I think you're INFP. I think you're INFJ.

Lots of INFJs confuse themselves for INTPs. Ask SH.

And I still disagree. I'm sure lots of INFJs do confuse themslevs for INTPs. I've seen all kinds of mix ups. It doesn't make me one.


EDIT: and he definitely did misuse my words. I've already well explained that. He made a case of "true" vs "right" where it didn't mean anything, and obviously didn't know what I meant by an intimate instinct, and so on.

[Edahn]

Discussion on Te v. Ti moved here (http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/mbti-enneagram-other-personality-matrices/7100-ti-vs-te-split.html).

Fuck, where's Zergling when you need him?

[Nocap]

This is true. I tried to be factual and honest in my last comment, not insulting, but it was criticism..




I'm convinced that I'm a T. I don't like it because I think what he's saying is bullshit. A lot of you seem to forget that I was the first person on this forum to make topic questioning my type. I've already offered the possibility that I'm an F. This is not a hard concept for me to handle, it was that I've simply concluded it to be wrong after thinking about it for a good long while. You know what's funny? If you're an F, and you prefer Feeling functions, then all that time you spent 'thinking about it' would likely have been time you spent FEELING about it, and continuing your attachment to being a T.


It was JUST long. As in, the length is one of the only things it can say for itself, and that doesn't amount to much. No... it really wasn't JUST long. You're the only one who seems to think so, which rises suspicion: maybe you're not really analyzing it.




Pointless rhetorical question, maybe just for annoying me or amusing yourself. No, it wasn't a rhetorical question. Skimming.... technically counts, but it doesn't really mean anything in the long run. Either you didn't read it, or you read it and colored it with an F lens.

What he said was spot on.



And I still disagree. I'm sure lots of INFJs do confuse themslevs for INTPs. I've seen all kinds of mix ups. It doesn't make me one. True, but that's not what I said.

My point there was, that it's happened before.


I think it's happened again.

[The_Liquid_Laser]

Didn't we already decide a while ago that Ne was a grenade and Ni was a sniper rifle? :shock:

Same type of thing. Introverted function vs. extraverted function. Focused vs. universal.

[Haphazard]

Same type of thing. Introverted function vs. extraverted function. Focused vs. universal.

I would say Fi is tripwire, but that would offend some of them... :D

[Magic Poriferan]

You know what's funny? If you're an F, and you prefer Feeling functions, then all that time you spent 'thinking about it' would likely have been time you spent FEELING about it, and continuing your attachment to being a T.

Now this is an informal fallacy. You have just made it impossible for me to be right in your world of reasoning. If I ever disagree about being a Feeler, you can just say it's my silly Feelings getting in the way. It's inescapable! I will always be invalidated, because of something you claim about me, which I can't deny because you'll use that claim to invalidate me.

This is basically the No True Scotsman fallacy, which you might have heard mentioned around here lately. It's because both you and BlueWing seem to love it.

Edit: There might actually be some well-poisoning going on here, too. It's a common one-two punch.



No, it wasn't a rhetorical question. Skimming.... technically counts, but it doesn't really mean anything in the long run. Either you didn't read it, or you read it and colored it with an F lens.

No, I did more than skim it. Again, you pose the only alternative is that I'm not understanding because I must be an F. The same fallacy as before.

[sciski]

I would say Fi is tripwire, but that would offend some of them... :D

Does that make Fe a minefield? I kind of like that. :D

[booyalab]

Does that make Fe a minefield? I kind of like that. :D
Fe is the clap.

[CaptainChick]

This is true. I tried to be factual and honest in my last comment, not insulting, but it was criticism..
Well, here's what's interesting.

You and I have disagreed in several threads on several different topics recently, yet it has been *you* not I, who has taken to personally criticizing me, i.e. engaging in/committing an ad hominum abusive, rather than critiquing a perceived faulty point of view.

To be honest, both T's and F's do this, but I have been personally attacked mostly by INFJs (namely Kiddo and Peguy), and a few INTPs.

When engaging in any form of heated discussion or debate with you, I can't help but notice your positions to be firmly grounded in/on your feelings.

And by "feelings", I mean that you seem to be incredibly defensive and take neutral or relatively benign opinions/statements, personally.

I am guilty of this too, but then again, I am an NF! ;)

[disregard]

And by "feelings", I mean that you seem to be incredibly defensive and take neutral or relatively benign opinions/statements, personally.

I am guilty of this too, but then again, I am an NF! ;)

*thwaps you with a newspaper*

*thwaps self with newspaper three times*

Well, if it is any consolation to yee NFs, this sensitivity works both ways.

Feeling.. the thorn in my side, the flutter in my heart.

[Gabe]

Well, here's what's interesting.

You and I have disagreed in several threads on several different topics recently, yet it has been *you* not I, who has taken to personally criticizing me, i.e. engaging in/committing an ad hominum abusive, rather than critiquing a perceived faulty point of view.

To be honest, both T's and F's do this, but I have been personally attacked mostly by INFJs (namely Kiddo), and a few INTPs.

When engaging in any form of heated discussion or debate with you, I can't help but notice your positions to be firmly grounded in/on your feelings.

And by "feelings", I mean that you seem to be incredibly defensive and take neutral or relatively benign opinions/statements, personally.

I am guilty of this too, but then again, I am an NF! ;)


First, let me summarize why I'm actually defending MP this time: Nothing I've read so far is remotely good evidence of MP being an "F".

What just kills me (at a thinking level, actually) is that suspicion was first raised about MP's type by bluewing, an obvious Te-prefferer. And now people have forgotten about questioning BW's obvious typing, and gone on to bother MP. And you know what kills me even more? MP's posts have a ton of Ti in them! And yet he's the one being questioned instead of BW.

And by the way, Kiddo is very obviously NOT an INFJ. He has one of the most obvious Fi-prefference of anyone on this forum--- a definate __FP type.

[Magic Poriferan]

Well, here's what's interesting.

You and I have disagreed in several threads on several different topics recently, yet it has been *you* not I, who has taken to personally criticizing me, i.e. engaging in/committing an ad hominum abusive, rather than critiquing a perceived faulty point of view.

To be honest, both T's and F's do this, but I have been personally attacked mostly by INFJs (namely Kiddo), and a few INTPs.

When engaging in any form of heated discussion or debate with you, I can't help but notice your positions to be firmly grounded in/on your feelings.

And by "feelings", I mean that you seem to be incredibly defensive and take neutral or relatively benign opinions/statements, personally.

I am guilty of this too, but then again, I am an NF! ;)

I think this is selective observation.

When comparing this to my life experience, I can't help but laugh in a "amazing how people give me no way out" sort of way. Again, I know that I can't prove this to you, but in personal life I've been subjected to criticism for being insensitive and detached, excessively analyitical and pedantic, and not being aggressive enough. So, facing this current subject here, is extraordinary.

Now I've already said many times, all over this forum, that I'm emotional here, than in normal life. Because, 1: there's safety in anonymity and distance, which allows me to let my guard down and experiment. 2: this forum is dedicated to a subject on which I feel that I'm in my element, and that I am dedicated to. I have found that Ts and Fs, Ps and Js alike, have a tendency to get pretty fierce when dealing with arguments over subjects that are important to them.

That being said, while admitting to being more emotional, I don't think I've been nearly as aggressive or presumptios as you say. Maybe I just coincidentally happened to do more of that lately, but I think I've been my normal, passive, open-ended self for most of my time on this forum.

Also, as another little note, CC, it seems like you tend to mistake my hypothetical propositions for things I actually believe, which might cause confusion. I have tendency to play devil's advocate for the sake of argument. Maybe you didn't realize that.

[Grayscale]

based on my observations of others, thinking and feeling are not always obvious. considering our society, i would expect a "thinker" to recognize the advantages Fe has to offer, and, as nocap points out, feelers may be emotionally inclined to appear more logical for whatever reason.

it's in the source for decision-making, not appearances. thinking tends to refer to calculation of objective data, feeling... personal experience, instinct, who knows what else. that is the question to ask when determining whether a person is one or the other.

personally, i keep my logic to myself in day to day life. that's logical, after all. ;) <only weak, overly emotionally-expressive people use these, right?

[The_Liquid_Laser]

Does that make Fe a minefield? I kind of like that. :D

Actually Fe is obvious while Fi is hidden. If Fi is a tripwire, then Fe must be the walls slowing closing in on you. ;)

[Haphazard]

Hey, Gabe,

What type am I?

Just curious.

[Night]

I say we leave MP alone.

Having your apparent "essence" flayed by a group of would-be psychoanalysts has got to get irritating after awhile.

[Jeffster]

I say we leave MP alone.

Having your apparent "essence" flayed by a group of would-be psychoanalysts has got to get irritating after awhile.

Quit wasting time and tell me why I'm ESFP. ;)

[nottaprettygal]

I say we leave MP alone.

Having your apparent "essence" flayed by a group of would-be psychoanalysts has got to get irritating after awhile.

Dude. Night is such an F. All caring about people's feelings and stuff. I know, riiiioght.

[CaptainChick]

And by the way, Kiddo is very obviously NOT an INFJ. He has one of the most obvious Fi-prefference of anyone on this forum--- a definate __FP type.
:shocking:

Perhaps I cannot see this because his Fi values are diametrically opposed to mine.

[Night]

Join Date: 06-07-2008

Total Posts: 959 (18.17 posts per day)

Extraversion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraversion) is "the act, state, or habit of being predominantly concerned with and obtaining gratification from what is outside the self. Extraverts tend to enjoy human interactions and to be enthusiastic, talkative, assertive, and gregarious.

I realize the irony in dissecting your nature via an online forum - especially when coincided with my previous post.

You seem to generate a great deal of excitement (for yourself and others) via the shotgunning of your thoughts.

Good man, Jeffster.

Dude. Night is such an F. All caring about people's feelings and stuff. I know, riiiioght.

They say that with age comes development of inferior functions. ;)

[Ivy]

Just an aside, but I would never take test results (online tests, most exspecially) as evidence of anything. I've scored all over the place on all kinds of tests. Unless it's an actual-factual MBTI sorter that you paid green money for, which I would consider to be marginally more accurate. And then only marginally. "Accurate" is just not a modifier I would attach to anything regarding measurement of MBTI.

Edit: I hereby acknowledge that other countries have other colors of money.

[disregard]

Join Date: 06-07-2008

Total Posts: 959 (18.17 posts per day)

Extraversion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraversion) is "the act, state, or habit of being predominantly concerned with and obtaining gratification from what is outside the self. Extraverts tend to enjoy human interactions and to be enthusiastic, talkative, assertive, and gregarious.

I realize the irony in dissecting your nature via an online forum - especially when coincided with my previous post.

You seem to generate a great deal of excitement (for yourself and others) via the shotgunning of your thoughts.

Good man, Jeffster.

I don't buy this post-count argument, as one could (and will) argue that a person is in their element at the forum of their choosing, and is thus more inclined to participate in social exchanges with greater activity than in most other situations.

[Gabe]

Hey, Gabe,

What type am I?

Just curious.

I don't know.

[Gabe]

:shocking:

Perhaps I cannot see this because his Fi values are diametrically opposed to mine.

Bush may very well be an ISFP, and my values are definately opposed to his.

[Haphazard]

I don't know.

Aww.

[Night]

I don't buy this post-count argument, as one could (and will) argue that a person is in their element at the forum of their choosing, and is thus more inclined to participate in social exchanges with greater activity than in most other situations.

Well, like this thread plainly displays, the determinants for type selection are often as varied as the individual.

[Jeffster]

Join Date: 06-07-2008

Total Posts: 959 (18.17 posts per day)

Extraversion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraversion) is "the act, state, or habit of being predominantly concerned with and obtaining gratification from what is outside the self. Extraverts tend to enjoy human interactions and to be enthusiastic, talkative, assertive, and gregarious.

I realize the irony in dissecting your nature via an online forum - especially when coincided with my previous post.

You seem to generate a great deal of excitement (for yourself and others) via the shotgunning of your thoughts.

Good man, Jeffster.


Thank you. :) But you're right about the online forum part, as is Dana:

I don't buy this post-count argument, as one could (and will) argue that a person is in their element at the forum of their choosing, and is thus more inclined to participate in social exchanges with greater activity than in most other situations.

I think that's right on, and if I am understanding anything about these cognitive process dealies that you folks like to throw around, then everything I do has to sort of pass the "Fi Test" before the "Se" kicks in. Once it does, it's hard core. But not until. If the "Se" was truly dominant, I would likely not be sitting here typing on an internet forum, I would likely be in jail or at my night job, trying to earn enough to pay for the child support of all the drug-addicted kids I'd fathered with different women. :D

Of course, I'm probably way off, and someone will be along shortly to tell me that I don't understand that function stuff, and it doesn't work that way. ;)

[Night]

Of course, I'm probably way off, and someone will be along shortly to tell me that I don't understand that function stuff, and it doesn't work that way. ;)

Then they'd be in error.

Function is intimate to the individual.

[The_Liquid_Laser]

I don't buy this post-count argument, as one could (and will) argue that a person is in their element at the forum of their choosing, and is thus more inclined to participate in social exchanges with greater activity than in most other situations.

Very true. I think Jennifer has more posts than probably anyone. Actually you have way more posts than I do, and my join date is quite a bit earlier. (Just counting the "Dana" posts and not the "CTG" posts.) If anything I think introverts are more likely to have a high post count than extraverts are.

[Magic Poriferan]

Well, like this thread plainly displays, the determinants for type selection are often as varied as the individual.

Indeed. At least I peresonally have been writing things down in text files to help me work-out the criteria of type as I understand. I think most people have something for less consistent, or even defined in the first place.
(As a funny aside, I just thought about how doing so would probably be considered Ti. But I don't use that! No!)

And Captain Chick, indeed, you must remember that someone can definitely use Fi to support something you totally disagree with. There's a similar occurence in the Enneagram. You know Ones are staunch about their beliefs, and usually frames things in some kind of ethic/honor system, right? Well, that may be true, but two different Ones can have dramatically opposed systems of belief. So they will both staunchly beat each other up over it.

[Magic Poriferan]

Just an aside, but I would never take test results (online tests, most exspecially) as evidence of anything. I've scored all over the place on all kinds of tests. Unless it's an actual-factual MBTI sorter that you paid green money for, which I would consider to be marginally more accurate. And then only marginally. "Accurate" is just not a modifier I would attach to anything regarding measurement of MBTI.



I know that. I was pointing out the fact that I have never, ever, gotten a change in results on that. My point can actually be used in conjuction with your post. Because other people go all over the place on certain functions, it makes me all the more confident that I'm T that my T has never changed.

[Gabe]

Exactly!

Now let's get back to BW's type.

Since I don't feel like copying and pasting the stuff I'll just say:

Some of the best examples of BW's Te use are in the graveyard thread "insipity of sensors".

[Jennifer]

...And by the way, Kiddo is very obviously NOT an INFJ. He has one of the most obvious Fi-prefference of anyone on this forum--- a definate __FP type.

What?

Apparently it's not that obvious.

I think there is some confusion here over what Fi can look like online in a series of posts, versus Ni+Fe. Also, I have no idea how strong Kiddo's Fi is; he wouldn't have to be INFP to have a developed Fi along with Ni+Fe.

I remember him saying on another forum that he didn't understand why he got so angry. Inside he would not feel like he needed to say anything, it was sort of formless... but then someone would do something and he'd feel compelled to argue.

I can't say that's Fi. It also sounds possibly Fe -- internally he's stable, externally if someone "breaks the rules," he goes ballistic even when he doesn't want to.

In any case, it's interesting to consider... but I would not say that makes him an "obvious Fi."

Very true. I think Jennifer has more posts than probably anyone....

That must be because I'm a closet ESFP. ;) Yeah. Uh huh.

There's a lot more involved in post count than extroversion. Posting things online is not nearly the same as real life engagement -- it's this weird blend of "interaction" that is still detached from real engagement. And my posts aren't necessarily based on wanting to interact with others but could be just my own mind searching for ideas to analyze and spit out answers on (Ti) or ping around and play with (Ne) or compare to other ways of seeing (Ni) or determine the value of (F) based on consequences, or.... I mean, really, an online forum is a like a candy store for an introvert, who deals not with the "real object" but is always more interested in the subjective impression inside their own mind CREATED by the object.

So quantity of engagement with the internalized IMPRESSION of the object is NOT the same as extroversion. Probably something for all of us to keep in mind.

[entropie]

You sometimes get that feeling too that there is an idea that is so clear and inherently factual ? Like MBTI i.e. you get so obsessed about and you dig soo deeply into it that you are about to forget where you started from ? That you have made the idea's own weird entanglements to a new point to start with about life. And furthermore you start to become the idea, with your own set of rules what makes you inconfusable different from anyone else, cause your starting points have started to overtake your own process of digging. That's the point when it needs someone to step up and take the lead, to start a World War !

[Ivy]

I've moved some posts over to a new thread (http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/fluff-zone/7107-s-mystery-moved-what-s-my-type.html). Very mysterious. Almost spooky.

[Ivy]

I know that. I was pointing out the fact that I have never, ever, gotten a change in results on that. My point can actually be used in conjuction with your post. Because other people go all over the place on certain functions, it makes me all the more confident that I'm T that my T has never changed.

What it confirms is that you highly value T traits (also confirmed by your strong reaction to your type being questioned) and, as such, answer that way on online tests. It doesn't necessarily confirm that you are T.

Having said that, my general policy is to say something once and after that only reiterate it if asked, and to try and trust people's self-perceptions if they seem convicted of them. :)

(I do want to underscore that F doesn't at all mean "emotional dummy with retarded logic skills," or I wouldn't call myself one. So I don't want you to take my questioning of your type as a pointed finger in any way.)

[disregard]

What it confirms is that you highly value T traits

Ah! What an important thing to remember when considering one's cognitive function (and other test) results!

[Nocap]

Seriously.
I've been saying that for like a year now on this site.

The tests don't work, 'cause people think things of themselves that aren't true.

[Babylon Candle]

Seriously.
I've been saying that for like a year now on this site.

The tests don't work, 'cause people think things of themselves that aren't true.

i second that... i almost think that the MBTI tests should be vanquished in favor of function inventories....

I thought of myself as an introvert for a while...until i was reminded by people WHO KNOW ME VERY WELL of certain things: the clean slate (younger me) and me when im actaully happy (not just the aggregate number of hours i spend acting ______ )...

[Thursday]

Seriously.
I've been saying that for like a year now on this site.

The tests don't work, 'cause people think things of themselves that aren't true.

Duh
the test was made by a human
MBTI is a theory
according to its maker, it is 70% accurate

[Jennifer]

Duh
the test was made by a human
MBTI is a theory
according to its maker, it is 70% accurate


As nocaps says, people do think things of themselves that are not true.
However, the recourse is not a lot better: People also think things about OTHERS that are not true as well.

As far as a 70% statistic, well, numbers are useless without qualification of what they are specifically referring to and knowledge of how the number was generated.

[Gabe]

What?

Apparently it's not that obvious.

I think there is some confusion here over what Fi can look like online in a series of posts, versus Ni+Fe. Also, I have no idea how strong Kiddo's Fi is; he wouldn't have to be INFP to have a developed Fi along with Ni+Fe.

I remember him saying on another forum that he didn't understand why he got so angry. Inside he would not feel like he needed to say anything, it was sort of formless... but then someone would do something and he'd feel compelled to argue.

I can't say that's Fi. It also sounds possibly Fe -- internally he's stable, externally if someone "breaks the rules," he goes ballistic even when he doesn't want to.

In any case, it's interesting to consider... but I would not say that makes him an "obvious Fi."



Actually, I never mentioned it, but I think that the whole "Fe-Ni looks like Fi" argument is bogus and was developed as a false explaination of the fact that most of the "INFJ"s on this forum are NFPs.

What I remember about Kiddo's posts is when he tried to pull his whole "homophobes are Fi's" thing. By the way Kiddo (if you're reading this), I didn't like the crazy lady in that youtube either, but that doesn't make it a shadow reaction. It just makes her a crazy bitch. (duh!) Then he mentioned how he thought it was so bizarre that they seemed to think he was miserable, and I though "aha! opposing personality Fe". What else... his response to my "obesity myth" thread was totally Fi. No true Ni type has "wisdom at the cost of sanity" as thier signature, not even Nietche(if he were alive) (in other words, it's a fairly obvious sign of an extraverted perception preference).

And I would love to discuss this further (including with Kiddo). I am %100 percent sure he prefers Fi, and I think he's an I_FP.

And your "Fe" example could easily be inferior Te in that context. And I think it is.

[PinkPiranha]

I have to put in here something that's been niggling me - I don't understand why people are afraid to test as Sensers. That's absurd. If I were a Senser, I'd be all "YAY FOR ME!" Intuition is gimpy and I'm stuck with it.

If someone believes they're Intuitive (by definition, erroneous or correct), why would they be offended to hear from their friends that they think they're a Senser? I've seen precious few Sensers who've been upset by an implication of Intuition.

Why are Intuitives/Pseudo-Intuitives so touchy about that?

[disregard]

I don't understand why people are afraid to test as Sensers. That's absurd. If I were a Senser, I'd be all "YAY FOR ME!" Intuition is gimpy and I'm stuck with it.

The forum culture here generally values the abstract over of the concrete (most likely due to the subject matter), and I can imagine that such a preference is rarely found the majority of wherever most of us find ourselves in our daily lives, so this place serves as a sort of safe-haven, and in order to protect this ideal atmosphere, sensors are out-grouped, if only implicitly.

[PinkPiranha]

Excellent explanation, Dana. That's pretty much what I'd thought too. Like the incorrect emphasis on N being "better" precludes Ss from joining in on forum life without having to take a defensive position. You're out of the clubhouse, so to speak. In waking life, Ss have domination, so it must go to type for Ns to congress in their own world where Ns are dominant.

The psychology of it is certainly interesting.

[whatever]

;) Or you could test high on Ne AND Se and have somewhat the best of both worlds! :D


... but low on Ni and Si :dry:

[PinkPiranha]

;) Or you could test high on Ne AND Se and have somewhat the best of both worlds! :D


... but low on Ni and Si :dry:

I sure do love you, Hypnotoad. :D

[Maverick]

I would like to denounce my own typing as ENFJ. It's blatantly wrong.

[Jeffster]

I have to put in here something that's been niggling me - I don't understand why people are afraid to test as Sensers. That's absurd. If I were a Senser, I'd be all "YAY FOR ME!" Intuition is gimpy and I'm stuck with it.


YAY FOR ME!

[PinkPiranha]

I would like to denounce my own typing as ENFJ. It's blatantly wrong.

And we ENFJs supportively expel you from our presence. :D Out, out, foul demons of Te-primary!! :devil:


YAY FOR ME!

That's the spirit! WOOOOOO!!! WOOOHOOOoooOOOOooo!!!!

[Magic Poriferan]

;) Or you could test high on Ne AND Se and have somewhat the best of both worlds! :D


... but low on Ni and Si :dry:

Don't you have low Fi, too?

[Night]

Here's my most recent exam:

Ishtak's scores on the main set of questions:

Extraversion 29
Introversion 34
Sensing 0
iNtuition 96
Thinking 60
Feeling 45
Judging 28
Perceiving 30

You scored as an INTP.

Bizarre. Or not.

Either way.

[Pseudonym_Alpha]

Whats stranger than fiction is I scored INFJ over 10 times, and recently, I re-assessed it and it last 3 times was INTP...I find THAT truly odd...

[bluebell]

Conclusion: All this retesting has broken the tests. :D

[Thursday]

Conclusion: All this retesting has broken the tests. :D

LOL

[Xander]

Here's my most recent exam:

Ishtak's scores on the main set of questions:

Extraversion 29
Introversion 34
Sensing 0
iNtuition 96
Thinking 60
Feeling 45
Judging 28
Perceiving 30

You scored as an INTP.

Bizarre. Or not.

Either way.
So you get intuition up the whazoo and lower thinking and I'm the frickin ENTP???? Aww I'm taking this one up with the judges!!

YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS MAN!!!

[Night]

I am a mysterious man, Xander...

[CaptainChick]

Here's my most recent exam:

Ishtak's scores on the main set of questions:

Extraversion 29
Introversion 34
Sensing 0
iNtuition 96
Thinking 60
Feeling 45
Judging 28
Perceiving 30

You scored as an INTP.

Bizarre. Or not.

Either way.
:sadbanana:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

[Delilah]

I am a mysterious man, Xander...

Which is exactly why you should drag your ass to the MN meet-up next weekend!

;)

[Night]

That's right!

I'm an INTj, though...

[Delilah]

I like INTjs.

;)

[Night]

The feeling is more than mutual, Delilah... ;)

:sadbanana:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

You don't agree with my INTP evaluation, CC?

Why not...?

[Jen]

^^ Me too! Just not the fucked up freaky ones. :ninja: The mentally healthy ones are super hawt! :yes:

[Xander]

I am a mysterious man, Xander...
A mysterious ENTP ?


:D

[Night]

ENTP is very likely...

I guess I dont know for certain..

[Thursday]

ENTP is very likely...

I guess I dont know for certain..

hmm

what do you hate most ?

[Jen]

I have a feeling that Mr Night is very introverted so cancel out that ENTP crap. He's also not a perceiver. How many times!? :rolleyes2:

[Xander]

I have a feeling that Mr Night is very introverted so cancel out that ENTP crap. He's also not a perceiver. How many times!? :rolleyes2:
Again, again, AGAIN!!!

[Thursday]

I have a feeling that Mr Night is very introverted so cancel out that ENTP crap. He's also not a perceiver. How many times!? :rolleyes2:

ok
just probing as usual

[Night]

ENTJ it is!

[Jen]

Again, again, AGAIN!!!ok
just probing as usualBoth of you in the naughty corner! NOW!

[heart]

I have to put in here something that's been niggling me - I don't understand why people are afraid to test as Sensers. That's absurd. If I were a Senser, I'd be all "YAY FOR ME!" Intuition is gimpy and I'm stuck with it.

If someone believes they're Intuitive (by definition, erroneous or correct), why would they be offended to hear from their friends that they think they're a Senser? I've seen precious few Sensers who've been upset by an implication of Intuition.

Why are Intuitives/Pseudo-Intuitives so touchy about that?

I think part of it is because they may have been berated as children for N traits and they tried to change but were not able to and so to suddenly be accused of not being N creates a feeling of "well then were the hell would I fit in?"


The forum culture here generally values the abstract over of the concrete (most likely due to the subject matter), and I can imagine that such a preference is rarely found the majority of wherever most of us find ourselves in our daily lives, so this place serves as a sort of safe-haven, and in order to protect this ideal atmosphere, sensors are out-grouped, if only implicitly.

Yes, exactly.

[Xander]

Both of you in the naughty corner! NOW!
First she goes all strange about me type and now, when I call her out, she goes all kinky.

Well I'm confused but okay, lead the way...

[Nocap]

:sadbanana:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

How crass.

As a candidate for INTPism, I take offense to that.

[CaptainChick]

You don't agree with my INTP evaluation, CC?

Why not...?Um, huh, why not..well, nothing really substantial or germane, I just don't get an INTP-ness, (lol), vibe from you.

ENTJ it is!
I can accept that!

:)

[CaptainChick]

How crass.

As a candidate for INTPism, I take offense to that.
You, on the other hand, are overflowing with your ANTP-nis-ery. ;)

[Night]

I just don't get an INTP-ness, (lol), from you.
:)

I can't, CC.

I'm married. ;)

[CaptainChick]

I can't, CC.

I'm married. ;)
:doh:

I meant INTP-ness *vibe*!!!!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

:blush:

EDIT: Hey, you played a trick on me!!!!

I totally thought I had made a Freudian slip there.

:azdaja:

[Nocap]

You, on the other hand, are overflowing with your ANTP-nis-ery. ;)

ery?

[CaptainChick]

ery?
Yup, ANTP-nis-ery, i.e. the act of being an ANTP-nis.

:yes:

[disregard]

Night: INFJ

Ni, that mysteriousness
Fe, always defends the downtrodden
Ti, his thinking coming through

INTJ

Ni: mysteriousness
Te: thinking preference
Fi: his values that come through so often in times of social disturbance

[disregard]

Hmm... or... INTJ... and it is Fi that comes through when he defends the downtrodden!

Yes

[heart]

Hmm... or... INTJ... and it is Fi that comes through when he defends the downtrodden!

Yes

Yes, I think he is INTJ.

[Night]

Hmm... or... INTJ... and it is Fi that comes through when he defends the downtrodden!

Yes

Night: INFJ

Ni, that mysteriousness
Fe, always defends the downtrodden
Ti, his thinking coming through

INTJ

Ni: mysteriousness
Te: thinking preference
Fi: his values that come through so often in times of social disturbance

Very, very perceptive Dana.


I'm flattered.

I tend to become hyper-defensive of people that I feel are being bullied and/or taken advantage of. I think most tend to exhibit this sort of behavior...?

This is typically when I become aggressively attuned with my Te.

[Jen]

First she goes all strange about me type and now, when I call her out, she goes all kinky.

Well I'm confused but okay, lead the way...what else do you expect from a nutty NFJ? :wacko:

Anyway, isn't it past your bedtime? ;P

[whatever]

Don't you have low Fi, too?

;) I was keeping with the pattern there... though yes, my lowest is Fi, which I apparently am somewhat lacking in! :laugh:


.... heart stole my Fi and is keeping it hostage somewhere :ninja:

[Magic Poriferan]

;) I was keeping with the pattern there... though yes, my lowest is Fi, which I apparently am somewhat lacking in! :laugh:


.... heart stole my Fi and is keeping it hostage somewhere :ninja:


I was thinking, if you have low Si, Ni and Fi, then, ummm... What have you got in there? :huh: I would assume you at least have high Ti.

[PinkPiranha]

My Fi is listening to the Cure and weeping it's mascara off because my Fe is hogging the phone.

[Jennifer]

Actually, I never mentioned it, but I think that the whole "Fe-Ni looks like Fi" argument is bogus and was developed as a false explaination of the fact that most of the "INFJ"s on this forum are NFPs.

All right. That's your thesis.
Let's see how you supported it.

What I remember about Kiddo's posts is when he tried to pull his whole "homophobes are Fi's" thing. By the way Kiddo (if you're reading this), I didn't like the crazy lady in that youtube either, but that doesn't make it a shadow reaction. It just makes her a crazy bitch. (duh!)

Assertion.

Then he mentioned how he thought it was so bizarre that they seemed to think he was miserable, and I though "aha! opposing personality Fe".

Assertion.

What else... his response to my "obesity myth" thread was totally Fi. No true Ni type has "wisdom at the cost of sanity" as thier signature, not even Nietche(if he were alive) (in other words, it's a fairly obvious sign of an extraverted perception preference).

"Arguing from specific to general" fallacy.

(How is a tagline representative of someone's true personality? It's not. It's a very very small and somewhat insignificant piece of data that has no direct bearing on type.)

And I would love to discuss this further (including with Kiddo). I am %100 percent sure he prefers Fi, and I think he's an I_FP.

Assertion.

And your "Fe" example could easily be inferior Te in that context. And I think it is.

Assertion.



...Come on, Gabe.
This is all assertion -- where's the support statements?

i.e., where's the beef?

(and I wonder why type I could claim you are, for making a case styled like this.)

Again, again, AGAIN!!!

ok
just probing as usual

Both of you in the naughty corner! NOW!

There will be NO probing in the naughty corner!!!! :ninja:

[Mondo]

Yup, ANTP-nis-ery, i.e. the act of being an ANTP-nis.

:yes:


hahahahahahahaha!! :D

[Eric B]

Say, Gabe; I see you've dropped the "P" from your type! Reconsidering?
A "J" would seem to make sense, as you do seem to have a "directive" streak, and also, the way you try to identify many other people's processes as Te; it does appear that that function rubs you the wrong way (rather than being a "relief").

[SolitaryWalker]

Say, Gabe; I see you've dropped the "P" from your type! Reconsidering?
A "J" would seem to make sense, as you do seem to have a "directive" streak, and also, the way you try to identify many other people's processes as Te; it does appear that that function rubs you the wrong way (rather than being a "relief").

Could be ENFP with distinctly expressed Te.

[Gabe]

Say, Gabe; I see you've dropped the "P" from your type! Reconsidering?
A "J" would seem to make sense, as you do seem to have a "directive" streak, and also, the way you try to identify many other people's processes as Te; it does appear that that function rubs you the wrong way (rather than being a "relief").

I didn't drop "P" from my type. I'm using "?"'s new type coding.

Huh, I mean, if the whole community were to switch to his (better) coding that would be one thing, as it is, people will keep misreading the codes for the irrational types and just think they're unsure about the last letter. Oh well.

Go ahead, question my type, I am very interested in hearing about it :yes: (but you do know what I think of that "directive" "informative" bussiness)

I don't identify processes as Te because it rubs me the wrong way (it doesn't). Bullshit rubs me the wrong way.

[Eric B]

OK.
I had forgotten about that system for the moment, and didn't realize anyone had actually begun using it.

It just seems that Te is being used as some sort of pejorative that people's writings are being accused of almost critically, while Ti is this elusive function that everyone aspires to, but no one measures up to in the critics' minds. I wonder why that is.

[Thursday]

what would be a reliable recourse after mistyping yourself ?

Avery = ENxJ

LOL

[Mozzes]

what would be a reliable recourse after mistyping yourself ?

Suing for psychological damages?

[Thursday]

Suing for psychological damages?

Gold !

[Gabe]

OK.
I had forgotten about that system for the moment, and didn't realize anyone had actually begun using it.

It just seems that Te is being used as some sort of pejorative that people's writings are being accused of almost critically, while Ti is this elusive function that everyone aspires to, but no one measures up to in the critics' minds. I wonder why that is.

Critics nothing.

Speaking for myself, I've always thought of some economic theories as Ti "principles" based on false situations.

[Terian]

Ooh, do me! Which type am I?

[Jack Flak]

ENFP (wild guess)

[Terian]

ENFP (wild guess)

Omg ya!

[substitute]

Jack Flak is an ENTP* and ThatGirl is an ESxP. :peepwall:

edit - *of the digest genus, more integrated Ti as opposed to naked Ne blabbermouth like moi :D

[Jack Flak]

(I'm not E-anything, for all you lurkers out there)

[substitute]

(I'm not E-anything, for all you lurkers out there)

Ah, my poor child, I knew you'd resist. Never mind. One day you shall emerge, blinking, into the glorious light of acceptance of your true self. Until then, I shall continue to get puerile kicks from ribbing you about it :hug:

[Jack Flak]

I am what you could call an "Internet Extrovert." Perhaps someone should start a Social Group by that name and invite me. I'm far too shy.

[substitute]

I am what you could call an "Internet Extrovert." Perhaps someone should start a Social Group by that name and invite me. I'm far too shy.

That's what I said all along. You're a shy extravert. That doesn't equal an introvert :D

[Evan]

Ooh this thread is exciting!

Anyone doubt my INFJness?

[CaptainChick]

Ooh this thread is exciting!

Anyone doubt my INFJness?
I sure don't.

[Jack Flak]

That's what I said all along. You're a shy extravert. That doesn't equal an introvert :D
SRSLY tho, I really honestly know the difference! I'm re-energized by solitude though I have fun with others. I don't have the same need for "impact" that is common with ENTPs and their ideas. I'm much better at chess, as well. :devil:

[substitute]

SRSLY tho, I really honestly know the difference! I'm re-energized by solitude though I have fun with others. I don't have the same need for "impact" that is common with ENTPs and their ideas. I'm much better at chess, as well. :devil:

*shakes head sadly*

Dude... your denial is painful :cry:

[Evan]

I also think Jack is ENTP, but my reasoning would include mention of functions, something he doesn't believe in.

[Evan]

I sure don't.

Yeah my type isn't questioned much. Too bad.

[booyalab]

If he's an extrovert, I'm one of those extreme social butterflies...the kind with no internal dialogue or interests independent of other people. (and I'm not btw)

[CaptainChick]

Yeah my type isn't questioned much. Too bad.
Neither is mine, why would that be a bad thing?

:huh:

[DigitalMethod]

Imma INTJ right?

[Jack Flak]

I also think Jack is ENTP, but my reasoning would include mention of functions, something he doesn't believe in.
I must have made a mistake by practicing what I preach--That we need not follow any "rules of our type!"

Though I believe the concept of the functions is flawed, if you want to define my brain, you could say I do have a very capable extraverted intuition, but what about introverted thinking? I would say it's more potent still (and I don't believe I've ever tested as having higher Ne than Ti, and the only other type I've tested as is INFP--once, on a bad test), but the operation of the introverted function is not as obvious to others. I say only what I choose to; you can't read my mind.

As I age, I become more capable at acting how I see fit: a way I see as proper for the situation. If I'm at a bar, for example, I'm not going to impress anyone by verbalizing my intellectual contemplations, so I put on a "sensing" cover. On the net, where you don't exist unless you are engaging, I put on an "extrovert" cover.

[pure_mercury]

Someone on here recently guessed INTJ or ENTJ for me.

[Haphazard]

I don't know, PM, I haven't read enough of you.

[Little Linguist]

What the hell am I - other than CRAZ??? :D

[Uberfuhrer]

Yeah my type isn't questioned much. Too bad.

Neither is mine, why would that be a bad thing?

Me neither.

Sometimes I think Hmm is an xNFP.

[Haphazard]

What the hell am I - other than CRAZ??? :D

Well, I think CRAZ is quite fitting.

What type am I? Speak now or forever hold your peace.

[DigitalMethod]

Well, I think CRAZ is quite fitting.

What type am I? Speak now or forever hold your peace.

You're definitely INTJ.

[substitute]

What the hell am I - other than CRAZ??? :D

ah c'mon, if you're not an ENFP then neither is Chick, and she most definitely is!!

And I will never concede to you Jack, you oughtta know that. When I die you'll prise a piece of paper from my cold, stiff hands, unfold it and it'll say "you're an ENTP, mofo!" My epitaph on my headstone shall have an asterisk leading to very small writing at the bottom that reads "and Jack is still an ENTP ffs".

Nope. Not budging. However slight the preference, it's still there, IMAO :D

[Jack Flak]

What the hell am I - other than CRAZ??? :D
The only possibilities I've considered are ENFP and ENFJ.
And I will never concede to you Jack, you oughtta know that.
*sigh* I suppose Asimov is ENTP as well?

[Little Linguist]

Well, I think CRAZ is quite fitting.

What type am I? Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Pffft...I already *know* I'm crazy. I was looking for some eye-opening insights regarding a true typing. Eh, in other words, whether or not ENFP is a good fit. :tongue10:

Oh yeah, and why are you questioning INTJ? (Just curious). I'm curious about ENFP because my cognitive functions Ne, Ni, Fi, Fe are all pretty strong. The rest are all pretty weak. Heh.

[Haphazard]

Oh yeah, and why are you questioning INTJ? (Just curious). I'm curious about ENFP because my cognitive functions Ne, Ni, Fi, Fe are all pretty strong. The rest are all pretty weak. Heh.

Because some people have said some things and now I'm calling them out.

I'd still say ENFP for you.

[Evan]

Neither is mine, why would that be a bad thing?

:huh:

Because arguing is fun :)

Someone on here recently guessed INTJ or ENTJ for me.

I think you're a healthy ENFJ.

*sigh* I suppose Asimov is ENTP as well?

Pretty sure Asimov was an INTJ.

What type am I? Speak now or forever hold your peace.

INTJ.

[Thursday]

anyone still think i'm an ENFJ or INTJ ?

[kuranes]

On the net, where you don't exist unless you are engaging, I put on an "extrovert" cover.
Exactly. Why is this so hard to see for some people ?

[Jack Flak]

Pretty sure Asimov was an INTJ.
OK if there's no Asimov thead, consider it started...

[substitute]

*sigh* I suppose Asimov is ENTP as well?

I dunno. But you are.

In fact, an INTP would long ago have begun to ignore me. The fact you can't resist responding and giving me more opportunities to rib you, despite how much I'm obviously enjoying it and you're actually enjoying it too (don't lie to me, boy!), is very telling, padawan.



Ha, yeah, that got him. Can't move either way now without confirming it. Walked right into that one. *sharpens needles for next pass*

[Jack Flak]

Exactly. Why is this so hard to see for some people ?
Lack of Ti, of course!

[Little Linguist]

Because some people have said some things and now I'm calling them out.

I'd still say ENFP for you.

Ah hah! Fair enough.

Thanks for your input, by the way.

And thanks to the rest of you, too, who took the time to answer. :D

[Evan]

Lack of Ti, of course!

No, that's lack of N.

Makes sense that you would confuse N and T, seeing as you think you're T dominant. :)

Allright allright, I'm done.

[Little Linguist]

Lack of Ti, of course!

Ti??? :shock: What's that? It's spelled tea!!!!!! ;)

[substitute]

And your internet cover thing isn't washing here, sonny. Oh no. I mean, how many introverts are there on this board with many times your number of posts? Pah! I ain't watcha do, it's the way thatcha do it. :alttongue:

[Little Linguist]

And your internet cover thing isn't washing here, sonny. Oh no. I mean, how many introverts are there on this board with many times your number of posts? Pah! I ain't watcha do, it's the way thatcha do it. :alttongue:

Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!!!!! :devil:

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!! You're right - Jack has twice the number of posts I have and he has been on here for one month less than I have!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

[Evan]

He's too clever not to be an Ne dom.

[substitute]

Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!!!!! :devil:

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!! You're right - Jack has twice the number of posts I have and he has been on here for one month less than I have!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

Despite the temptation being to say "sure thing, fight! the more he says the more he incrimminates himself!", I just wub him too much to fight with my recently adopted honorary brother pal buddy type thing. And besides, mom will only take our toys away. :cry:

[Haphazard]

Ti??? :shock: What's that? It's spelled tea!!!!!! ;)

I believe he's referring to solfège...?

And your internet cover thing isn't washing here, sonny. Oh no. I mean, how many introverts are there on this board with many times your number of posts? Pah! I ain't watcha do, it's the way thatcha do it. :alttongue:

o_O And I thought I had a lot of posts...

[Little Linguist]

Despite the temptation being to say "sure thing, fight! the more he says the more he incrimminates himself!", I just wub him too much to fight with my recently adopted honorary brother pal buddy type thing. And besides, mom will only take our toys away. :cry:

Since when did *you* ever care about social conventions, eh???? :tongue10:

Oh, alright - FINE! I thought I could enjoy a good, manly fist fight. Ferk.

[Aimahn]

Hmmm... Does anybody want or better yet, can anybody venture a guess as to what type I am?

[substitute]

Since when did *you* ever care about social conventions, eh???? :tongue10:

I don't. I care about my wubbwy bwuva and getting to play with my toys :cheese:

Oh, alright - FINE! I thought I could enjoy a good, manly fist fight. Ferk.

Oh but you know me. I'm a lover, not a fighter :smoke:

[Little Linguist]

I believe he's referring to solfège...?

Ahhhhhhhh....right!!!!!! Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm...if we aren't Ti - what are we?

I think we should find a sound for every type combination - only - crap, there are only seven - not 8.

o_O And I thought I had a lot of posts...

heh

[Little Linguist]

I don't. I care about my wubbwy bwuva and getting to play with my toys :cheese:



Oh but you know me. I'm a lover, not a fighter :smoke:

*sigh* Okay, luvaaaaaa boy!!!!!! :tongue10: ;)

[Haphazard]

Ahhhhhhhh....right!!!!!! Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm...if we aren't Ti - what are we?

I think we should find a sound for every type combination - only - crap, there are only seven - not 8.


Not if we get into half- and quarter-tones. :devil:

[Little Linguist]

Not if we get into half- and quarter-tones. :devil:

YESSSSSS!!!!! Sweet - it would be like MBTI for the musically-inclined!!!!!!!!

Eureka! :D

[substitute]

He's just buying time now with some classic Ne redirection, so his Ti can catch up and think of a plan. A better one that is, than starting to ignore me only after I pointed out it'd be the best strategy to disprove his extraversion :evil:

[proteanmix]

Someone on here recently guessed INTJ or ENTJ for me.


I think you're a healthy ENFJ.



Sometimes I think Hmm is an xNFP.

Wow, the SJs got a promotion to N! :cheers: It certainly took long enough. :dry:

[Little Linguist]

He's just buying time now with some classic Ne redirection, so his Ti can catch up and think of a plan. A better one that is, than starting to ignore me only after I pointed out it'd be the best strategy to disprove his extraversion :evil:

Naaaaaa, you devil! :devil:

[CaptainChick]

ah c'mon, if you're not an ENFP then neither is Chick, and she most definitely is!!
:smoke:

:crazy:

:happy:

Because arguing is fun :)
Sacrebleu!!!

:shocking:

[Jack Flak]

I think Hmm is quite correctly typed as ISTJ. I have known a few.

[Magic Poriferan]

I think Hmm is quite correctly typed as ISTJ. I have known a few.

I really disagree. I suspect that ISFJ is truly the most accurate type for her.

[Jack Flak]

I really disagree. I suspect that ISFJ is truly the most accurate type for her.
did sub put you up to this?!! lol.

[Magic Poriferan]

did sub put you up to this?!! lol.

Errr, no. But I've talked to Hmm quite a bit, and I think she's an F.

[Jack Flak]

Errr, no. But I've talked to Hmm quite a bit, and I think she's an F.
Okay. You may know better than I.

[ThatGirl]

Jack Flak is an ENTP* and ThatGirl is an ESxP. :peepwall:

edit - *of the digest genus, more integrated Ti as opposed to naked Ne blabbermouth like moi :D

Is this where I deffend my ENTPness?



Sub if I could just borrow your ruler?

[Jack Flak]

TG, I don't doubt You're ExTP, but you have come across as ESTP before. Not saying you are by any means.

[ThatGirl]

TG, I don't doubt You're ExTP, but you have come across as ESTP before. Not saying you are by any means.

I value every perspective.

I test ideas off everything.

I am hardly ever representing myself.

Its cool, I'm not offended I have just questioned a lot what this forum assumes an ENTP does?




Incidentally I think being EXTP would offically make me ruler of the world!!!!

*we need a chest pounding ape emoticon*

[prplchknz]

do I ever come by as anything other then INFP? like overall people have said I'm veeeeerry INFP. but I'm wondering if ever I came across as something different?

[Jeffster]

What the hell am I - other than CRAZ??? :D

BODACIOUS

[Jack Flak]

do I ever come by as anything other then INFP? like overall people have said I'm veeeeerry INFP. but I'm wondering if ever I came across as something different?
Not specifically, in my obs.

[substitute]

yeah I'm not as confident about ThatGirl as Jack. Maybe ExTP then... I dunno, you do strike me as SP-ish though... *shrug* just my arrogant opinion, no need to defend anything...

...unless you're Jack and have all your self-esteem invested in the idea of being the same type as Isaac Asimov :D
*poke, prod*

[prplchknz]

BODACIOUS

a bit off topic but when I see that word I think of this ad COURSE BLOG for GWSS 3307: Feminist Film/Media Studies (Fall 2007): I Like Big Butts and I Cannot Lie! ... (http://blog.lib.umn.edu/raim0007/gwss3307_fall2007/2007/09/i_like_big_butts_and_i_cannot.html)

[Thursday]

do I ever come by as anything other then INFP? like overall people have said I'm veeeeerry INFP. but I'm wondering if ever I came across as something different?

hmm......
no

[whatever]

Purple Chickens- I'd put you on a pedestal in the MBTI museum as the example of an INFP, though you'll have to fight over space with heart ;)

[Thursday]

Purple Chickens- I'd put you on a pedestal in the MBTI museum as the example of an INFP, though you'll have to fight over space with heart ;)

ditto

[Edahn]

Jack Flak - ISTJ/ISTP

[Jack Flak]

Jack Flak - ISTJ/ISTP
Edahn: ENFP (Basically whatever CC is)

[substitute]

Jack Flak - ISTJ/ISTP

:rofl1:

Dude, there was no need to get that big ass needle out this early!

[prplchknz]

Purple Chickens- I'd put you on a pedestal in the MBTI museum as the example of an INFP, though you'll have to fight over space with heart ;)

can it be lavendar?and sparkle? and in an ocean where the lost city of atlantis is? with mermaids that like sushi? if so I'll accept my extreme INFPness without question.

[substitute]

can it be lavendar?and sparkle? and in an ocean where the lost city of atlantis is? with mermaids that like sushi? if so I'll accept my extreme INFPness without question.

OMG!! :wub:

Though Carebear and nolla are pretty fine examples of the male of the species...

[whatever]

can it be lavendar?and sparkle? and in an ocean where the lost city of atlantis is? with mermaids that like sushi? if so I'll accept my extreme INFPness without question.

*dies laughing* you can even have a pet unicorn if you want!

*hands purple chickens her official INFP license*

[prplchknz]

*dies laughing* you can even have a pet unicorn if you want!

*hands purple chickens her official INFP license*

only if they can swim. though if it drowned, and I got sick of sushi...:devil:

[whatever]

dude... everyone knows that unicorns fly! :rolli:

[prplchknz]

no those are pegasuses (i'm probably not thinking of the right word their, but pretend, pretend, I am right, fine flying horses) with horns. Cuz they do battle, and so they can slay their enemies.

[substitute]

off topic I know, but I can't resist saying that this put me in mind of the times I've born witness to a bunch of D&D geeks arguing over what colours certain types of mythical creature are. MYTHICAL creatures. Arguing over details about them. Like they were real. For real. :rofl1:

edit - I thought Pegasus was just the name of one particular individual creature, not an entire species? :nerd: :laugh:

[whatever]

no those are pegasuses (i'm probably not thinking of the right word their, but pretend, pretend, I am right, fine flying horses) with horns. Cuz they do battle, and so they can slay their enemies.

oh... you mean like "it's a horse with a sword on it's head, to protect my hopes and dreams!" :devil:

a free drink if you know where that quote is from! :laugh:

and to Sub... that's SAD! don't they realize that they're ALL purple and pink feathered? ;)

[prplchknz]

off topic I know, but I can't resist saying that this put me in mind of the times I've born witness to a bunch of D&D geeks arguing over what colours certain types of mythical creature are. MYTHICAL creatures. Arguing over details about them. Like they were real. For real. :rofl1:

I would argue that, just because I love to argue about things that don't matter. and act like their a huge deal to me. I've had people telling me to calm down :rofl1:

[prplchknz]

oh... you mean like "it's a horse with a sword on it's head, to protect my hopes and dreams!" :devil:

a free drink if you know where that quote is from! :laugh:

and to Sub... that's SAD! don't they realize that they're ALL purple and pink feathered? ;)
I have no fucking clue.

[substitute]

I googled it and came up with a disturbing number of people who have used the quote as blog titles and favourite quotes - IN EARNEST!!! :wtf:

[whatever]

:laugh: it's from Scrubs

Unicorn

[booyalab]

If there's a unicorn reference and it's not from Orgazmo, I don't want to hear about it.

[Edahn]

Edahn: ENFP (Basically whatever CC is)

OMG R U SERIOUS!!!!!!!!?????!!!!!

DO YOU EVER SEE ME POSTING LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????

WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????

[booyalab]

LOL


LAME

[Haight]

It's not right for one Jew to make fun of another Jew.

I'm pretty sure it's in the manual. *looks for the manual*

[Jack Flak]

OMG R U SERIOUS!!!!!!!!?????!!!!!

DO YOU EVER SEE ME POSTING LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????

WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????
You forgot:

The END!

--EDAHN

[Edahn]

It's not right for one Jew to make fun of another Jew.

I'm pretty sure it's in the manual. *looks for the manual*

Jack Flak is Jewish?

Funny. His name doesn't sound Jewish...

[Uberfuhrer]

I'm Jewish.

You're all going to Hell now.