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Purple-People Sage
Join Date: Mar 2008
Type: INFP
Location: Beyond the Pale
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Visual (includes reading) v. auditory v. hands on learning Hands on Large group, small group, just you and the teacher, learning on your own me and the teacher/on my own on line class v. traditional class unconventional - i'd like to have class in a park learn at your own pace v. guided learning (must stick to set schedule) at my own pace
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and free bunnies!
Join Date: Jun 2007
Type: INFP
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Visual (includes reading) v. auditory v. hands on learning
auditory in combination of hands on Large group, small group, just you and the teacher, learning on your own me and the teacher/on my own or a small group on line class v. traditional class traditional class learn at your own pace v. guided learning (must stick to set schedule) combination of both. It depends on the subject some subjects I do great on my own others I need that extra push.
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"It was all very well to say `Drink me,' but the wise little Alice was not going to do that in a hurry. `No, I'll look first,' she said, `and see whether it's marked "poison" or not'; ......if you drink much from a bottle marked `poison,' it is almost certain to disagree with you, sooner or later."-Lewis Caroll, Alice in Wonderland My pupils are not students they dilate but they never learn. my pupils are not students they dilate but they never learn. ~ Marilyn Manson. |
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Type: INTP
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Thus it would be best for them to engage in slow moving, one-on-one discussions and lengthy solitary readings as opposed to learning with a congregation. Extroverted Thinkers are the opposite. The more their thoughts are vocalized, the sharper their intellect turns. As one ENTJ suggested, the best school for an ENTJ would be where two professors argue in class. Extroverted Sensors learn best through hands on application. Introverted Sensors learn best through quiet collection of facts and concrete information. Typical lecture serves them best. Extroverted Intuitives learn best through exchange of ideas. Unlike the Extroverted Thinkers, discussion is preferred to debate, as they engage with the external world merely to process ideas, not to analyze them. Introverted Intuitives learn best by sitting back and quietly collecting abstract information. Typical lecture would serve them best as well. Extroverted Feelers learn best when all members of discussion bring relevance to ideas concerning their personal experiences and how this relates to society by and large. Introverted Feelers learn best when direct applications to the human element are evinced. Unlike the Extroverted Feeling type, the Introverted Feeling type is concerned not with how personal experiences relate to society, but what they mean to the narrator. Participation from all members of the audience is not required, nor is the frequent sharing of sentiment. In fact it is even best that it manifests implicitly rather than explicitly, but the connection to the human element must be manifest to the Introverted Feeler in order to become motivated to learn.
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'And the great deadly serpent Superstition, bred of fear and ignorance, keeps watch on the treasure of knowledge. Only he who has slain the serpent and knows not fear can bestride Odin's horse and ride through the wall of fire; only he who wields Odin's sword can draw near to that sleeping might and beauty, and sunder the stifling links of mail, and show the divine face to men.' 'To be a philosopher,you must first be a Spinozist; if you have not Spinozism, you have no philosophy at all' Hegel |
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On the Quest of Self
Join Date: Jun 2008
Type: XXXX
Location: Germany
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Extroverted (E) 53.57% Introverted (I) 46.43% Intuitive (N) 54.55% Sensing (S) 45.45% Thinking (T) 50% Feeling (F) 50% Perceiving (P) 50% Judging (J) 50% Your type is: ENFP (?) Ne (44) > Fi (31.8) > Te (30.7) > Si (28.8) > Fe (28.7) >Ti (26.8) > Se (26.6) > Ni (22.6) |
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On the Quest of Self
Join Date: Jun 2008
Type: XXXX
Location: Germany
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First, I like to read and/or listen to others, while interjecting questions in order to clarify points if appropriate (otherwise, I will wait til the end). Second, I like to mull everything over in my head - puzzling over fantasy scenarios, testing out different ideas, seeing the value of this or that - sometimes I jot down notes or ideas because they are often flighty so I have to do that or else I will forget in the torrent of other ideas that just pop up. Third, I talk with a small group of people to sort of test out my ideas in spoken form. Then, after clarifying everything, I love to engage in all out WAR against the other group - ahem - I mean debate - ahem. Usually at this time, I also see the impact to others which may or may not have been clear from the start. Right, then I like to utilize this time to test out my ideas, others' ideas, and see which one is best. Then, I filter it through my own perceptions. At the end of class, I like to see which one is the best idea - not as a final answer - that almost never happens - but as a springboard to do more thinking and analyzing and talk with others whenever the opportunity arises.
DOH!!!! Do any of you other ENFPs do this?!?!
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Extroverted (E) 53.57% Introverted (I) 46.43% Intuitive (N) 54.55% Sensing (S) 45.45% Thinking (T) 50% Feeling (F) 50% Perceiving (P) 50% Judging (J) 50% Your type is: ENFP (?) Ne (44) > Fi (31.8) > Te (30.7) > Si (28.8) > Fe (28.7) >Ti (26.8) > Se (26.6) > Ni (22.6) |
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On the Quest of Self
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Ohhhh, one big difference: Sometimes if I am doing something really specialized, I like one-on-one. Often, I will wait until after class and ask the teacher a question directly or have a session where I just talk about something else because usually my brain goes off on a tangent, and I want to have my question answered BUTTTTT, I do not want to distract the class. SO I will wait until afterwards. But I'm too flighty to spend like, an hour, talking to the professor - usually just 10 or 15 minutes after class and then I think and talk with others and refine my ideas.
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Extroverted (E) 53.57% Introverted (I) 46.43% Intuitive (N) 54.55% Sensing (S) 45.45% Thinking (T) 50% Feeling (F) 50% Perceiving (P) 50% Judging (J) 50% Your type is: ENFP (?) Ne (44) > Fi (31.8) > Te (30.7) > Si (28.8) > Fe (28.7) >Ti (26.8) > Se (26.6) > Ni (22.6) |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Type: INFJ
Location: MN
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Ne's often drive to move beyond discussion to creation of new ideas--they're motivated to learn when they have chances to gather knowledge to convey it to others, for example. I remember an ENTP boss for example volunteering us (her 4-person team) to give a day-long workshop on a just-surfacing issue. When we pointed out we knew nothing about it, she said, "Neither do they. This is your perfect chance to learn..."
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My personal experience matches what edcoaching said about Ni. I don't do well at all in a lecture. I assumed this to be an auditory v. visual thing. I did well in school, but only because of what I learned at night from the books.
I like the exhange of ideas as well, but then I also ranked high in Ne according the the test at congnitveprocess.com. One of may favorite classes was called "seminar" style and it was mostly group discussion with the instructor moderating and adding his own insights. |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Type: ENFP
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i have taken quite a few learning type quizes and every time they say i'm very mixed. pretty much equal across the board. i've read that ENFP's do like variety in learning. once again, MBTI shocks me with its accuracy.
on the big group vs small group theory, i disagree that E's necessarily like big groups. when the group is too big, only a few people talk. everyone else is afraid of being wrong or saying something stupid. lots more conversation in a small class. for that reason, i like the latter. |
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