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    Quote Originally Posted by nottaprettygal View Post
    This thread is for everyone who is searching for a job to post about their failures and successes (but probably more about failures).
    Have you tried LinkedIn?
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    LinkedIn is pretty good professional networking.

    Temping is how most of my friends got their permanent jobs. One my friends has a master's degree as well and is looking for jobs through temp agencies. If she likes the organization she looks for openings. The one problem with that is the agency may charge the employer a fee and they may not want to hire depending on how steep it is.

    Temping and volunteering your services to pad out your resume sounds like a good idea and so is SPAMMING! That's an excellent way to get your name out there. I did it too.

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    If your interest is public policy/criminal justice you may want to check out state/county/city governments. I don't know exactly how you're searching but when I got my internships I typed in my field of interest into a search and got a list of all the organizations associated with that field and contacted them and asked if they had anything at all available. I got lots of nos, and a few yeses and one of them got me my second internship. Are you interested in the non-profit leg of criminal justice? There's a registry of all non-profit organizations in the US and I think it's indexed according to topic as well. There seems to be a lot of unpaid internships for 3-6 months out there. And you have a MA so that should make you extra plump and juicy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    Have you tried LinkedIn?
    No, I've never heard of it. The site looks interesting. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix View Post
    Temping is how most of my friends got their permanent jobs.
    What kind of jobs are these? Most of the temp jobs I find seem purely administrative. However, I did find a agency that advertises jobs in non-profits and supposedly there are some research ones available. I'm definitely going to start going down the temp road, methinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix
    Temping and volunteering your services to pad out your resume sounds like a good idea and so is SPAMMING!
    Not to sound stupid, but what exactly do you mean by spamming? Is it just sending resumes to lots and lots of companies? This is what my dad and hubby suggested, but I have read on numerous websites that this is a bad idea. Supposedly, only two out of every 100 unsolicited resumes gets read.

    Do you have a different method of spamming?


    Quote Originally Posted by proteanmix
    If your interest is public policy/criminal justice you may want to check out state/county/city governments. . . Are you interested in the non-profit leg of criminal justice? There's a registry of all non-profit organizations in the US and I think it's indexed according to topic as well. There seems to be a lot of unpaid internships for 3-6 months out there.
    There are a lot of internships out there. However, it's really important for me to start making money now, so I don't think that an unpaid internship is an option. I am more interested in nonprofit criminal justice organizations, but I have also checked out state/county/city websites. I can't find anything at this point. So, I've expanded out to nonprofits that focus on children, education, and health.

    The more I think about it, the more I think temping may be the best way to go. I will check out those websites you gave me. D.C. has a lot of temp agencies (as I'm sure you know), so finding something promising should not be a problem.

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    You don't have connections? Friends whose fathers are owners of midsized firms, for example? (I understand this is more of an Italian way of finding a job...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    You don't have connections? Friends whose fathers are owners of midsized firms, for example? (I understand this is more of an Italian way of finding a job...)
    I swear to God, if I were Italian I'd be executive V.P. of something by now *arrogance*

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    Hmmm...is it really that hard to find a job???
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    You don't have connections? Friends whose fathers are owners of midsized firms, for example? (I understand this is more of an Italian way of finding a job...)
    To be honest, I don't really have many friends at this point. My old friends were stoners, so I doubt they have great connections. My family (and my entire hometown, really) is very blue collar. If I wanted a job hanging mini-blinds, I got the hook up.

    However, through this process I have learned how important networking is, so when I do land a job, I will try to build relationships with people in the organization. *shudder*

    Quote Originally Posted by Little Linguist View Post
    Hmmm...is it really that hard to find a job???
    Shush. That kind of talk doesn't help. And depending on your field, it's hard to find a job that is interesting with very little previous experience.

    Yesterday I sent out three more resumes and contacted a temp agency, so we'll see how that goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nottaprettygal View Post
    However, through this process I have learned how important networking is, so when I do land a job, I will try to build relationships with people in the organization. *shudder*
    Well I don't like networking either. I just have had those friends since childhood, but perhaps here midsized firms are more common so that's why.
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    Networking is suppose to be the most effective strategy. I've actually seen it in action recently. Someone I know spent months sending out resumes with limited success. I suggested to him that he should call his old colleagues, whom he barely kept in touch with. Within 3 weeks, he got a new position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    8+ years in the same job... very little money or respect to show for it... you bet your ass I'm looking for a job.
    The key to financial success in IT, for us non-competitive INTP-types, is to specialize in future-relevant technologies. (e.g. .Net is pretty hot right now).

    Specializing effectively reduces the competition. Even HR people know MCSE isn't worth sh*t but it's a way of sifting the pile without putting much thought into it. I have some specialist qualifications but they aren't current. I'm just rare and that makes me valuable. What I do doesn't require a lot of intelligence or skill, but there aren't many people who do it and there are quite a lot of organizations that need it so I get paid way more than I deserve. Maximum reward for minimum effort has always been my motto. Job satisfaction is for wimps.

    Also, whore yourself out to agencies. They are the spawn of the devil, but they are motivated to place you (pimps!).

    If security isn't important, consider contracting - you get a lot of experience in a lot of different environments quickly.

    Also, bluff ESTP-stylie. It works.
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