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    I'm really quite steamed at how quickly and monumentally this thread got derailed.
    Madman's azure lie: a zen miasma ruled.

    Realize us, Madman!

    I razed a slum, Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel De Mazarin View Post
    Certain ideas and theories which have great utility just can't be expressed as simply as champions of 'ordinary language' would desire. Even if no unusual words are utilized, the concepts require a great amount of work to get into... people who are willing to do that kind of legwork generally have a good vocabulary and can understand the nuances separating more unusual though not for that reason impractical words.
    Yes. I often run into problems like the one I'm having right now because I refuse to say everything I don't mean. When I say "You may sound arrogant if you say this," it means exactly that. It doesn't mean you will sound arrogant, and it doesn't mean you shouldn't say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Yes. I often run into problems like the one I'm having right now because I refuse to say everything I don't mean. When I say "You may sound arrogant if you say this," it means exactly that. It doesn't mean you will sound arrogant, and it doesn't mean you shouldn't say it.
    I don't even know how to respond... I'm waiting for a moderator to swoop in and split this thread directly from (and including) post #2 into a new thread entitled "BIG WORDS: what are they good for?" <hint hint>... but I'll answer this in this way...


    hubris...

    supercilious(ness)...

    arrogance...

    haughtiness...

    pride...

    pompousness...

    These words have similar denotations but occasionally slightly different connotations... particularly in literature, careful and discriminating use of these terms would result in a richer and more precise language... and simply replacing all uses of these or close synonyms with "arrogance/arrogant" would result in often massive distortion of meaning.
    Madman's azure lie: a zen miasma ruled.

    Realize us, Madman!

    I razed a slum, Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel De Mazarin View Post
    These words have similar denotations but occasionally quite different connotations... particularly in literature, careful utilization of these terms would result in distinctly rich and precise language... and simply replacing all uses of these or close synonyms with "arrogance/arrogant" would result in often massive distortion of meaning.
    Like French, you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Like French, you mean.
    Oh, Flapjack...
    Madman's azure lie: a zen miasma ruled.

    Realize us, Madman!

    I razed a slum, Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel De Mazarin View Post
    I agree with this a great deal... though I'd amend it as I've done in bold.

    The key to all of this, as colmena pointed out, is that we not indulge in the unnecessary use of words... where a simple, German-root word will do, use that... where a more obscure Latinate word does the job much better, use that one.

    Also, in literature, it should be noted that using exotic words is sometimes crucial to the effect of the writing... anyone who's read Salman Rushdie, Junot Diaz, or Anthony Burgess's A Clockwork Orange would understand that...
    This is the biscuit for me.

    The style should reflect the story. They should be interdependent. They should be one.
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    Ti Ne Fi Ni

    -How beautiful, this pale Endymion hour.
    -What are you talking about?
    -Endymion, my dear. A beautiful youth possessed by the moon.
    -Well, forget about him and get to bed.
    -Yes, my dear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colmena View Post
    The style should reflect the story. They should be interdependent. They should be one.
    Of course,

    Some say they want to be free

    But they long to dance together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Of course,

    Some say they want to be free

    But they long to dance together.
    Dancing together is freedom.
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    Ti Ne Fi Ni

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    -What are you talking about?
    -Endymion, my dear. A beautiful youth possessed by the moon.
    -Well, forget about him and get to bed.
    -Yes, my dear.

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    Oooh...I like this thread. Here's one for now...I'll add some more when I have more time to post:

    Somnambulance(noun)

    Synonym for somnambulism ... <psychiatry, neurology> Sleepwalking, rising out of bed and walking about during an apparent state of sleep, usually occurring in the first third of the night and lasting a few minutes to a half hour. ... Origin: L. Somnus = sleep, ambulare = to walk ...

    The man I saw in the hallway last night was not a zombie; he was simply in a state of restless somnambulance.
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    This thread deserves to live on.

    Succinct (Adjective)

    Brief and to the point.

    From Latin succinctus ; having one's clothes gathered up by a belt, tightly wrapped, concise, from sub- + cinctus, past participle of cingere to gird — more at cincture


    Jon's succinct poem made for a delightful read.


    p.s. OT. I used this word in a marketing assignment a few weeks ago. A college read through the paper and then asked aloud "Suuu-soohn. Is that French?"

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