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    Default spanish speakers: ser vs estar

    I know ser is used for more permanent things and estar is temporary but I dunno some how i keep getting them confused. I know ser is with time and place of origin but I dunno i keep reviewing it and I can do the separate but when I have to combine them I get confused so does anyone know any tricks to keep them straight because it's like i switch their uses. this is a big part of my final. I am get with the reflexive verbs, the direct and indirect pronouns (seperate and combined) but what seems like to be something easy i am not grasping.

    P.S. I'm only in spanish one so we only deal with the present tense currently
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    I think of ser as something essential. Like I am a female. The car is blue. Summer is hot.

    Estar is like a condition. Like I am cold. The car is running. It's warm now.
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by five sounds View Post
    I think of ser as something essential. Like I am a female. The car is blue. Summer is hot.

    Estar is like a condition. Like I am cold. The car is running. It's warm now.
    yeah I get them objectively but when I get deep into it I get confused
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    yeah I get them objectively but when I get deep into it I get confused
    Yeah it can be tricky sometimes. Some clues that it's estar is if there's any reference to time, before or after and stuff.
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.
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    Use estar for moods, locations, daily climate... (there's more)

    I suppose that requires practice
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    I'd say it's more like susceptible to be different than (necessarily) temporary

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    e.g. 'You are beautiful', could be translated to:


    Estás bonita -> you'd be saying the woman is looking beautiful at that given time. This is usually used when the woman changed her hairstyle, is wearing an elegant dress, or lost a good amount of weight. Notice that there's no (necessary) implication that this is a temporary thing.

    or

    Eres bonita -> you'd be saying the woman is beautiful per se

    (assuming the person is female)


    Hope that helps

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    Yeah I think it comes down to practice and comfort. So you feeeeel the difference vs trying to mentally conjure it.
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    as my freshman year spanish professor liked to say:

    what you feel and where you are
    is when you use the verb estar

    “Oh, we're always alright. You remember that. We happen to other people.” -Terry Pratchett
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    ¿Dónde es el bar? Quiero una cerveza.
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