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What makes a great teacher in your opinion? What were your great teachers like and what were their types? As a young teacher, I'm interested to hear input from a variety of types of learners.

One of my best teachers was an ENTJ. He was my journalism teacher and more or less a hardass. He was demanding and a lot of people didn't like his style of teaching. Some people didn't get his sarcasm or his sense of humor, but I appreciated it. I even got to hear the guy curse a few times when things with the newspaper weren't going well. (He was usually cursing at the computer.) Still, I learned more about writing from him than any other person. He has since moved into the role as athletic director which is a pity, because he was a great teacher to have in the classroom. We're still in touch and he still provides good advice about teaching.
 

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One of the best teachers I've ever had was my college German professor, whom I believe (in retrospect) to be an ENTP. We were a small class and she was the type that liked to push people out of their comfort zones. She would speak directly at us in very fast German (with her Romanian accent on top of it) and thoroughly expect us to understand and respond coherently- and by mid-semester all of us could. She never held our hands. However, IMO, her most effective method (for me at least) was the way she tied language-learning in with other subjects in a greater context. It just made learning the language seem so much more interesting, and it motivated me beyond the simple pull of "I've got to pass". Most language teachers (in the early level classes, at least) only extend that as far as "well, if you're ever in Germany or Austria, knowing how to say this or that will help you out". She trusted our intelligence enough to expect high performance on difficult readings from classic works of philosophy and literature even though we were only in the intermediate level. I appreciated having (for once) standards that were not geared to the dumbest in the room.
 

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I actually had the pleasure to experience a great teacher in a great class last semester. The class was arguably one of the hardest in the department: Symmetry and spectroscopy of inorganic molecules. The topic itself is moderately difficult, and this teacher was pretty hardcore. We covered more material than any other course, at a faster pace than any other course I'd ever had before.

Although some of these methods wouldn't work anywhere but the cutthroat no-bullshit arenas of graduate school, I really admired his approach, and thrived in this environment.

Here's what he did:
  • He listened to us and would repeat things in different ways if it was obvious we didn't quite understand the material.
  • He would always answer your questions and was very open, both in sharing the information he knew and in his schedule.
  • He went straight through the text, start to finish, in the order it was presented (he actually wrote the text, which I'm sure helped).
  • His powerpoint slides were designed to complement the text. They explained certain things in more detail and other things in less detail. He kept these updated according to our progress, and would fix mistakes as he found them. He also provided on the website every relevant piece of information that was presented to us.
  • The problems were taken directly from the chemical literature. Almost all of them were all real-world problems that were a good example of how the material we were learning could be applied. He made it clear that working the problems was mandatory, but he was quite flexible when it came to grading them, and would simply give you either zero, half, or full credit for each problem.
  • The tests were always easier than the problems, but not too easy. They were quite fair, and always took into consideration the amount of time we were given.
  • He expected us to keep up. About every other Thursday, we presented our work to the class. This encouraged people to study frequently, and discouraged procrastination. It also provided an opportunity for him to correct your work, for the benefit of the entire class (who might have all made the same mistakes as you).

Near the end of the semester, he commented to us and some other teachers that we were the best class he'd ever taught. This wasn't totally subjective, either: our grades the highest he'd ever seen for this course, and we had covered more material than any other class before us.

Here's what we did
  • We asked questions when we didn't understand something. I'm sure this was difficult for some people, because he has a naturally intimidating character.
  • We studied our asses off. I filled many whiteboards and chalkboards working out the problems, and accumulated stacks upon stacks of notes. I remember studying on the top floor of a parking deck at midnight, while I watched a thunderstorm pass. All this work, and I still fell behind in comparison to some of the other students.
 

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Good post, Orangey.

I think the best teachers show us something important about Life, not just the subject in question. By example, they show a love of learning, courage in overcoming obstacles or some other important quality. Think back on your best teachers - they all convey their humanity in a significant way. IOW, they act as strong role models, not just as journalism or German teachers, but as responsible and admirable adults. I've noticed this in my own teachers and in my kids' teachers as well. The ones who just try to be nice to the kids or act as their friends are often the most ineffective. The ones who hold the bar high and expect a lot are the ones the kids respect, emulate and love.

My daughter's Latin teacher, one of the hardest at her school, had very high standards, and a strict schedule of testing, homework and projects; my daughter did her work and learned a lot of Latin; she also loves this teacher, as do many other kids. She made the class fun with jokes (in Latin), stories and costumes, but she expected the kids to work and wasn't afraid to tell some of them, including mine, they had to work harder or they wouldn't learn Latin, which is a difficult language. She didn't set out to win their affection, she set out to teach them Latin.
 

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I have a lot of nerdy philosophies on this but at the moment I'm in the mood to just gush, if you don't mind. I just attended my daughter's class open house tonight and I am simply giddy about her teacher this year. Here are a few highlights from what he has said about how the year will go:

  • Every year he gets an old dryer off Freecycle or Craigslist and brings it to school. He and the kids take it apart to see how it works, fix whatever might be wrong with it, put it back together, and sell it to raise money for field trips.
  • Last year his class started carving a wooden canoe but didn't finish it. This year the class will finish it and the families of his classes from this year and last year will go to the Eno one Saturday to try it out.
  • He wants all of the parents to come in if the want and share what they know and love with the class. Noah is going to take in a computer, take it apart, and let the kids help him put it back together. He also wants to lead a quick & dirty D&D thingie and "accidentally" teach them about probability and suchlike. I am going in closer to the end of the year to give them some Super Sekrat Test-Taking Tips.
  • Every three weeks they will walk to the public library. He took the kids there last week and all of the ones who didn't already have library cards of their own got applications. (That included Thing 1 since we live in another town.) Some of the kids don't live where the school is so he worked it out with the library for them to get cards that will expire in 1 year.
  • There are two ball pythons in the classroom. To touch a snake, a student must answer 3 science questions about snakes. To hold a snake, a student must answer 5.

What I like so much about him is that the kids are learning and they don't even know it. This is something only a very gifted teacher can do, IMO.
 

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I think the best teachers show us something important about Life, not just the subject in question. By example, they show a love of learning, courage in overcoming obstacles or some other important quality. Think back on your best teachers - they all convey their humanity in a significant way. IOW, they act as strong role models, not just as journalism or German teachers, but as responsible and admirable adults. I've noticed this in my own teachers and in my kids' teachers as well. The ones who just try to be nice to the kids or act as their friends are often the most ineffective. The ones who hold the bar high and expect a lot are the ones the kids respect, emulate and love.

My daughter's Latin teacher, one of the hardest at her school, had very high standards, and a strict schedule of testing, homework and projects; my daughter did her work and learned a lot of Latin; she also loves this teacher, as do many other kids. She made the class fun with jokes (in Latin), stories and costumes, but she expected the kids to work and wasn't afraid to tell some of them, including mine, they had to work harder or they wouldn't learn Latin, which is a difficult language. She didn't set out to win their affection, she set out to teach them Latin.

This is very true.

The best teachers encourage self respect rather than self esteem

Self esteem depends on the opinions of others, while self respect is based on achievement.

Veni - Vidi - Vici.
 

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I'd like to write a tribute to a teacher from my daughter's school who died last Saturday at age 28. She was on a Fulbright in the Phillippines when she had a heart attack. By all accounts she was healthy, enthusiastic about life, etc. We knew her because she was a Global Studies teacher in the International Baccalaureate program. My daughter didn't have her, but a friend did, and she was one of those master teachers we've been talking about - someone who taught well and was loved and respected in return.
 

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What's interesting is that they have the title (in my school) of Master Teacher and unless my students gave me the name it wouldn't mean a thing to me. I would consider a master teacher an instructor who inspired a love of learning....strived to get to know each students strengths and allowed them to build on them...and loved to learn themselves and never stopped showing that they thirst for more. Students need to see that a teacher doesn't know everything but is willing to learn.
 

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Being a teacher myself, I am probably too biased to give an objective argument. :blush:
 

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My best English teacher ever was an ENTJ.

My most favorite college professor seems to be an INTP.
 

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Being a teacher myself, I am probably too biased to give an objective argument. :blush:

Me too, but I will say one of the best teachers I ever had was an art teacher in college. When we had teaching practise a group of us went to a particular school and they made me group leader and I was scared out of my wits. I hate leadership and yet it is continuously thrust upon me. I'll never forget when he looked me in the eye and said "You can do it!" just those four words and I knew I could. He's dead now but I would say a master teacher is one who makes you believe in yourself. I can only hope I do that for my students.
 

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i think what a good teacher is has a lot to do with what type you are yourself. i'm an ENFP, i don't think i can take any teacher that does not foster communication. my favorite teacher from uni was probably and ENFJ. that of course does not work for everybody though. i remember being in a finance (URGH!) class, and being bored to death by the lack of conversation of any sort. eventually, i talked to a business student about it during a philosophy class and she said "that's the way i like it". she was also surprised at how much we talked in philosophy (even when that class was more a of a quiet class by philosopher's standards). she kept to herself during class for the most part too. she's a very warm person though, so that may just be a simple E/I difference.
 

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Mine was an ENFJ.
He's a brit and he teased everyone.
But he was secretive, but so encouraging

Then there was Ms. Slade
an awesome ISTP who majored in math.
 

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<<<<<<What makes a great teacher in your opinion? What were your great teachers like and what were their types? As a young teacher, I'm interested to hear input from a variety of types of learners.>>>>>>>>

I've been very lucky to have had some wonderful teachers throughout my life.

I had two high school English teachers (an ENFJ and ENFP) who convinced me to become an English major in college. They simply changed my life--they were both very challenging and had high expectations, but if you tried to meet those standards they were incredibly encouraging.

A high school math teacher who made me work my arse off in Geometry, of all subjects, which I would never have done had I not wanted to impress her. I'm not sure of her type.

I had some wonderful professors in college. A whimsical, warm ENFP who consistently won teacher of the year... his INFP wife, who was brilliant and funny and scattered (she'd wander around the room drinking from a liter bottle of sparkling water, dropping chalk, and getting really excited about her subject matter)... an INFJ poetry professor who would open each class with a song or poem--I loved listening to his voice... and many more.

I think the best thing a teacher can do is be himself or herself and teach something he or she feels passionately about. I also really appreciate teachers who are strict, hold high standards, and expect a lot from their students.
 

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I have had many wonderful teachers but currently my choir director is my favorite. I'm pretty sure she's an ENFJ...so I may like her because she's my extraverted counterpart. lol She is around 35 years old and is just so awesome. First of all, she has infinite patience! People will be talking during class, and she'll simply pause until they look up and say, "Join us!" She knows what we're going through. She tells us not to get burdened by a difficult song and to just decide we are going to make it sound so beautiful that we'll relax. She says, "I know all of you are stubborn. You have to have at least a little stubbornness in you or you wouldn't have made it this far in life! You can do this!" She has such a way with words, encouraging words. When I auditioned for her in her office, I was so nervous I was shaking and clutching onto my keys. (I hadn't sung in choir since high school...it had been 3 years!) She had me sing a song and then before continuing with the audition, gently said, "You know, you don't have any reason to be nervous. I especially love your middle voice. You could definitely be a music major. You can put your keys down and just you know...relax...lean on the piano if that helps you." My jaw hit the floor...wow someone who's not annoyed by my nervousness. She also doesn't allow anyone to bash others...ever! She is hilarious! One night in dress rehearsal, we were singing a song in Japanese and the men weren't making their part peppy enough so she started rapping it and they joined her (this cute, petite white woman...lol). I laughed so hard I had tears streaming down my face. If she's ever nervous about a concert coming up, I can barely tell...and of course then I just stay extra attentive. :) I just can't say enough great things about her! Anyone else have/had a great ENFJ teacher?
 

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I have had many wonderful teachers but currently my choir director is my favorite. I'm pretty sure she's an ENFJ...so I may like her because she's my extraverted counterpart. lol She is around 35 years old and is just so awesome. First of all, she has infinite patience! People will be talking during class, and she'll simply pause until they look up and say, "Join us!" She knows what we're going through. She tells us not to get burdened by a difficult song and to just decide we are going to make it sound so beautiful that we'll relax. She says, "I know all of you are stubborn. You have to have at least a little stubbornness in you or you wouldn't have made it this far in life! You can do this!" She has such a way with words, encouraging words. When I auditioned for her in her office, I was so nervous I was shaking and clutching onto my keys. (I hadn't sung in choir since high school...it had been 3 years!) She had me sing a song and then before continuing with the audition, gently said, "You know, you don't have any reason to be nervous. I especially love your middle voice. You could definitely be a music major. You can put your keys down and just you know...relax...lean on the piano if that helps you." My jaw hit the floor...wow someone who's not annoyed by my nervousness. She also doesn't allow anyone to bash others...ever! She is hilarious! One night in dress rehearsal, we were singing a song in Japanese and the men weren't making their part peppy enough so she started rapping it and they joined her (this cute, petite white woman...lol). I laughed so hard I had tears streaming down my face. If she's ever nervous about a concert coming up, I can barely tell...and of course then I just stay extra attentive. :) I just can't say enough great things about her! Anyone else have/had a great ENFJ teacher?

I really enjoyed this anecdote. She sounds like she was a great teacher.
 

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^^ Mina Suvari's an INFJ? (damn you, Orangey)

I think a good teacher knows how to walk the line between being cool and being an educator who commands respect. That's kind of a prerequisite to establishing a dialogue with students. Above that, the teacher has to have good curriculum and ideas and know how to communicate them in a way that are relevant, exciting, interesting, and in a way that builds focus and problem-solving skills.
 
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