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    Quote Originally Posted by xenaprincess View Post

    Already mentioned his strengths. I guess his weaknesses might be he is not loosey goosey about ANYTHING. Meaning he cannot 'roll with it' and propose anything hypothetical and pie in the sky, unless it's at an intro meeting when he's asked to ballpark different scenarios. He is incredibly realistic. I think it makes him very good for the job as well, but he becomes extremely frustrated when working with loosey goosey creative people who have a vague idea of what they want to do and haven't worked out any specifics.

    This is what he's always done. I think anything involving logistics are up his alley, though directly 'managing people' would be more stressful because he can be very direct. He's better at 'managing a project'.
    Interesting. I don't think this is universal for INTJs. Is he an Enneagram 1? I actually don't enjoy the logistics part that much at all, though I will do it I'll delegate these things wherever possible. Also, I'm one of those people who tends to have a "vague idea of what I want to do" but "haven't worked out any specifics". It is characteristic of the creative process. You get a vague idea or where you want to go and then, as you create or take incremental actions, it becomes clearer. Everything in my life is like that. I might have a somewhat clear plan in terms of outcomes I want to achieve and timing - even five, ten, or twenty years in advance. I don't know the exact steps I'm going to take to get there though. However, it causes stress for me to not know know what practical steps I'm going to take, which drives me to figure those things out. In the end, people tell me I seem to be pretty organized but they sometimes don't know where I'm going or why, mostly because I either forget to explain it or have a hard time putting the ideas into words

    On logistics - looking at Kiersey's temperaments, I believe for Rationals (NT) logistics is the last in terms of NT intelligence, ranked as follows:
    1. strategic intelligence
    2. tactical intelligence
    3. diplomat intelligence
    4. logistical intelligence

    Logistical intelligence is supposed to be the strength of Guardians (SJ)

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    What is your career?
    Experimental physicist

    How much do you like your career?
    I like it much more in theory than in practice. Meaning, if I could spend most of my time doing research, I would be in heaven. Unfortunately my organization is overburdened with administrivia, and as a result, I spend far too much time doing paperwork and managerial garbage.

    My favorite part is lab work: planning and conducting experiments, analyzing data, writing papers and even giving presentations. I enjoy getting to interact with so many accomplished, capable, and just plain wonderful colleagues. I also like the fact that I am constantly learning new things. I have enough seniority that I now mentor junior colleagues, advising them on their work, and even serving as an adjunct at our local university.

    What do you not like about your career?
    The bureaucracy and regulation, which hamstrings our productivity to an unfortunate degree. We had a big reorganization a couple years ago, and are now subject to increasing levels of micromanagement and mindless makework. It is not the place for an independent-minded soul who values getting anything done. I have to keep myself from caring too much just to stay out of the asylum. But that is more a commentary on my present position than on my career as a whole.

    What are your strengths and weaknesses in that job?
    Strengths: planning, near to long term, including contingencies; experimental design and execution; teaching myself new things quickly; explaining complicated topics to audiences of varying backgrounds; technical writing; taking advantage of collaborations to get more done.

    Weaknesses: tendency to procrastinate and get distracted when confronted with work I don't enjoy doing; impatience with the ills of my organization, including the non-technical "support" staff; people skills beyond professional networking, including the more personal aspects of mentoring.

    Have you had other jobs that you liked or didn't like? If so, what is it that you liked or didn't like about them?
    Store clerk: disliked; too much public interaction
    House cleaner: liked for a college job, since I worked alone
    Library assistant: liked, since there was much variety and the chance to learn many things
    Consulting firm intern: liked the topic (high-tech industry), didn't like the office politics
    Office temp: disliked; tedious but busy, and too much phone work
    Teaching assistant: I actually enjoyed teaching, and was reasonably good at it
    Military officer: liked the work, the skills I learned, and the chance to travel; disliked the institutionalized stupidity/illogic.
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    I know this is a bit of an older thread, but I couldn't resist.

    What is your career?

    Registered nurse on a post-surgical/Cardiac surgery unit. In school to get my Master's in Nursing Education.

    How much do you like your career?

    Depends on the day. I like what I do, making a difference- if I'm lucky. I enjoy being able to precept students, train new staff, and critically think. Other parts that I like include getting to see new procedures come down the ramp, seeing the effects of medications- how they benefit people, utilizing 'manipulative' measures to resolve complicated situations, and advocating for those who can't do so themselves.

    What do you not like about your career?

    Politicking. I hate being belittled because I am not a doctor- therefore I must not have any critical thinking abilities or experience that is applicable to decision making for a patient. I despise having to play the 'doctor-nurse' game, even if all it is is something I'm used to having to do to get what I need- putting on a mask. Working in a field that is primarily composed of women- who gossip and are moody- ugh, and the conversations. On my down time, I'd rather be figuring out what is going on with my patient and what got them to where they are, not what happened to some overblown character on a TV show, what concert you went to, when you're getting married, or what color bridesmaid dresses you're getting and the long detailed story about how you got them.
    I'm not keen on the emotional, mental, verbal, and physical abuse you can be subjected to on a daily basis either.

    What are your strengths and weaknesses in that job?

    I'm damn good at what I do. All bragging aside, I'm quite thorough in the care I provide my patients. I don't leave things undone, and consider all possible effects of any treatments we provide. I'll advocate for a patient until I get what I want from someone, or until someone else gives them what they need. I can play people like instruments- useful when you have to wait on orders to do anything- legally.
    Weaknesses? I have a low tolerance for ignorance, low work ethic, people who cut corners, people who do things that are unsafe, and people who blatantly don't care about what they are doing. This leads to conflict at times.

    Have you had other jobs that you liked or didn't like? If so, what is it that you liked or didn't like about them?
    I'm relatively young and haven't had many other jobs. Most have involved customer service- which helped me learn how to interact with difficult people. I had another hospital job while in school, and it was...interesting. I didn't like where I was at, as I witnessed a lot of apathy, ignorance, and overall unkind care. I liked that it made me passionate about what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Interesting. I don't think this is universal for INTJs. Is he an Enneagram 1? I actually don't enjoy the logistics part that much at all, though I will do it I'll delegate these things wherever possible. Also, I'm one of those people who tends to have a "vague idea of what I want to do" but "haven't worked out any specifics". It is characteristic of the creative process. You get a vague idea or where you want to go and then, as you create or take incremental actions, it becomes clearer. Everything in my life is like that. I might have a somewhat clear plan in terms of outcomes I want to achieve and timing - even five, ten, or twenty years in advance. I don't know the exact steps I'm going to take to get there though. However, it causes stress for me to not know know what practical steps I'm going to take, which drives me to figure those things out. In the end, people tell me I seem to be pretty organized but they sometimes don't know where I'm going or why, mostly because I either forget to explain it or have a hard time putting the ideas into words

    On logistics - looking at Kiersey's temperaments, I believe for Rationals (NT) logistics is the last in terms of NT intelligence, ranked as follows:
    1. strategic intelligence
    2. tactical intelligence
    3. diplomat intelligence
    4. logistical intelligence

    Logistical intelligence is supposed to be the strength of Guardians (SJ)
    For me, diplomatic intelligence is around 98 or so, somewhere below extroverted feeling.
    I can confirm however that logistical intelligence is the forte of the SJ, as I am married to one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    What is your career?
    Experimental physicist
    That is a really interesting job to have. Really cool. What does your work entail?

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    What is your career?
    Business - IT and Real Estate
    How much do you like your career?
    It affords me independence, financial and in other ways, a suitable work structure and being in control of my life. It validates my self perceived capacities and gives me contentment when I see things working out the way they were planned. It lets me manage my time to an acceptable degree, allowing me some focus on some non career interests.
    What do you not like about your career?
    I have to adapt to many things and be flexible about certain things for sucessful outcomes.I don't have enough money to grow from a small to big enterprise.I am too different to work with traditional funding sources, though I am always on the look out, lol. I haven't earned any friends though many acquaintances.(I hope I may make some great friendships here). Overall, I am content.
    What are your strengths and weaknesses in that job?
    I would say that prime strengths are strategic & tactical planning & execution, knowledge-base & know-how, and a principled life of being loyal, hardworking and honest.
    Weaknesses are always communication, poor interpersonal skills, and dislike of marketing and HR functions. I must say I am very afraid of failure (My first business went bankrupt and took me 4 years to recover), to the point where I avoid even bankable and reasonable risks. As a person who faced institutional and private creditors and all manners of recovery and litigation, I am also now averse to debt to the point where I don't use credit cards and home mortgage facility even personally. I know it affects the healthy growth.
    Have you had other jobs that you liked or didn't like? If so, what is it that you liked or didn't like about them?
    I worked as a junior programmer in a big textile mill after graduation. It was stifling work environment that was regimented and very noisy, had poor team mates and I quit after my first assignment was done and delivered in six months time.
    I worked afterwards for three years as a general manager with a group handling diverse responsibilities. Primary job was setup and overall administration of an ITES startup, but had diverse short projects for various other group businesses.I learned a lot, really a lot in that work. I was happy in that job. I quit against all efforts to retain me since I realized I could not work under someone for the rest of my life and that I had evolved to accept a framework of principles and approaches (which is, more simply the integral yoga of Sri Aurobindo, lol) that I wanted to live by and test out in my life. Or rather, manifest what I am in this world.
    Been in self employment since, for the last fifteen plus years. I am newly venturing into construction and real estate, focusing on green housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belle of Kilronan View Post
    That is a really interesting job to have. Really cool. What does your work entail?
    Unfortunately far too much paperwork, budgeting exercises, administrivia, etc. which is why I am now looking for a new job. It is supposed to involve actual experimental work: following the literature and determining what next to investigate or develop; designing and conducting experiments; writing papers, and mentoring students/junior colleagues along the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    tendency to procrastinate and get distracted when confronted with work I don't enjoy doing;
    Who DOESN'T have that weakness?
    Your kisses, sweeter than honey. But guess what, so is my money.

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    I work in R&D, specifically the fire protection of structural steel with reactive coatings. That usually means paint that keeps steel beams and columns cool during a fire so they don't get soft and bend. I also do bit of what they call fire stopping as well, which refers to methods of stopping a fire spreading through a building quickly. My job gives me an excuse to burn thngs, which is always nice.

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