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    Quote Originally Posted by Noll View Post
    You speak Russian and you're INFJ 4w5 sp/so. Are you Dostoevsky reincarnated?
    да, конечно.

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    I'm employing different sources i'm right now focusing on sounds of the letters, which is actually helping pronociations of words, though so some sounds when they're in the middle of a word, is harder for me to pronounce than when they're at the beginning or end of the word нет i know means no and is pronounced n' yet ж i am having trouble with that letter though

    it's hard but fun
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    ж i am having trouble with that letter though
    Pronouncing it? It's pretty much a zh sound. It's kinda like how you pronounce the "s" in fusion or measure. Gives you an idea how it sounds using English words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Pronouncing it? It's pretty much a zh sound. It's kinda like how you pronounce the "s" in fusion or measure. Gives you an idea how it sounds using English words.
    yeah i'm practicing, it reminds me of the bottom of the orthodox cross.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    yeah i'm practicing, it reminds me of the bottom of the orthodox cross.
    не понимаю.

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    I know how to pronounce each letter of the Russian Alphabet and can read it phonetically (I know which letter means what), but I never got around to understanding the words and grammar structure (which I've heard has conjugations similar to that of Latin and other Past European language bases, though Russian does have Uralic language influences as well). I need to get around to learning the damn words and syntax soon.

    If you do learn Russian, translate some Socionics documents for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    I know how to pronounce each letter of the Russian Alphabet and can read it phonetically (I know which letter means what), but I never got around to understanding the words and grammar structure (which I've heard has conjugations similar to that of Latin and other Past European language bases, though Russian does have Uralic language influences as well). I need to get around to learning the damn words and syntax soon.

    If you do learn Russian, translate some Socionics documents for us.
    Allow me to blunt: the grammar is a massive pain in the ass. Even many Russians think it's needlessly complicated, and often tell foreigners interested in learning that they're incredibly insane.

    Although the similarity you mention with Latin is something I've noticed too. They're both Indo-European languages, so that might explain the possible similarities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Allow me to blunt: the grammar is a massive pain in the ass. Even many Russians think it's needlessly complicated, and often tell foreigners interested in learning that they're incredibly insane.

    Although the similarity you mention with Latin is something I've noticed too. They're both Indo-European languages, so that might explain the possible similarities.
    Yeah, though I don't think that Russian crams all of the endings on the verb as much as Latin (could be wrong). It's incredible that a word like aedificabuntur can comprise the majority of a sentence due to the fact it includes subject data, passive/active data, tense data, singular/plural data, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Yeah, though I don't think that Russian crams all of the endings on the verb as much as Latin (could be wrong).
    Oh it crams more than just the endings of the verb. Almost every other word in the sentence besides the subject gets altered. And the endings of certain cases are almost identical.

    Problem I have is being genuinely immersed in the language. Russian isn't exactly widely spoken this side of the Atlantic(unless you're in the Chicago area), and listening to it on the internet(while helpful) isn't entirely the same.

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