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  • Teaching

    11 78.57%
  • Pharmacy

    2 14.29%
  • Engineering

    3 21.43%
  • Architecture

    1 7.14%
  • Something Else

    8 57.14%
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    Exclamation INFINITE FIELDS OF INSIDIOUS INDECISION INHIBIT MY CAREER SEARCH: Advice Needed!

    I am a 7w6 male ENFP that needs to find a job that is relatively safe and could be family friendly. I've considered teaching literature, or maybe even history, at the middle school level. I believe that job would be a decent comprimise between fun and responsible. I would enjoy creating fun, entertaining, and educational lesson plans. My method would center around spontaneity, creativity, intuition, experiments, and individuality. I would also enjoy giving each child memories that they can remember fondly, and that could inspire them to do amazing things. In addition, summers off would allow me to nurture my own family.

    The downside is that the education system is becoming increasingly bureaucratic. If I wanted to serve chocolate seeds to show what the first native americans tasted when they arrived and started civilization, the paperwork required would be immense. Even though it would involve the children's minds in a debate about why a European would care to bring back such a fruit, the legal work could push things way behind schedule. The same could convievably happen if I tried to bring pomnegranets and allow the pomnegranet seeds to be devoured by the children to help the children ponder why such fruit was considered divine by the Ancient Greeks. The pay might not be enough to support two to three children, either.

    My mother said I should either be a Pharmasist or an Engineer. I noticed that most pharmasist work three days on, three days off. Pharmasist also make over 100K per year. When I looked at the job description, I felt naseous. Everything is done by the book and the consequences of even a minor error are scary. I don't know much about engineering.

    I've considered Architecture, too. The hollond code for architecture is AIR, and my Holland code is AIS. I dont know much about architecture, either.

    I love writing fiction. I plan for this to be my secondary career. I dont see it as secure enough to be my main lifeline, but I love it. I especially like writing science fiction and fantasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    The downside is that the education system is becoming increasingly bureaucratic. If I wanted to serve chocolate seeds to show what the first native americans tasted when they arrived and started civilization, the paperwork required would be immense. Even though it would involve the children's minds in a debate about why a European would care to bring back such a fruit, the legal work could push things way behind schedule. The same could convievably happen if I tried to bring pomnegranets and allow the pomnegranet seeds to be devoured by the children to help the children ponder why such fruit was considered divine by the Ancient Greeks. The pay might not be enough to support two to three children, either.
    If you're an imaginative person, you'll find ways to make the most of your situation, no matter how bureaucratic it is. Limitations stoke creativity.

    I doubt that you would enjoy being a pharmacist or engineer based on what you wrote in the first paragraph. You seem like you'd prefer something more social and idea-oriented. What about something related to publishing, or television? Also, no idea if this is something you'd be interested in, but I was just reading about this today.

    fwiw I had an ENFP 7 English teacher, and he's perfectly cut out for his job and loves it.

    (I just realized that every teacher I can think of who has children only has two. Don't know if that's representative of American teachers as a whole, but yeah, I'd imagine it would be difficult to support a large family on a teacher's salary.)

    Hope you eventually find a career you love.

    Edit: this is a good source for career information: http://stats.bls.gov/ooh/

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    The Sesame workshop sounds like something interesting. I'm glad you recommended it!

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    I believe that middle school is best because the pupils would be old enough to understand the experiments and demonstrations, yet young enough to be amazed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    I am a 7w6 male ENFP that needs to find a job that is relatively safe and could be family friendly. I've considered teaching literature, or maybe even history, at the middle school level. I believe that job would be a decent comprimise between fun and responsible. I would enjoy creating fun, entertaining, and educational lesson plans. My method would center around spontaneity, creativity, intuition, experiments, and individuality. I would also enjoy giving each child memories that they can remember fondly, and that could inspire them to do amazing things. In addition, summers off would allow me to nurture my own family.

    The downside is that the education system is becoming increasingly bureaucratic. If I wanted to serve chocolate seeds to show what the first native americans tasted when they arrived and started civilization, the paperwork required would be immense. Even though it would involve the children's minds in a debate about why a European would care to bring back such a fruit, the legal work could push things way behind schedule. The same could convievably happen if I tried to bring pomnegranets and allow the pomnegranet seeds to be devoured by the children to help the children ponder why such fruit was considered divine by the Ancient Greeks. The pay might not be enough to support two to three children, either.

    My mother said I should either be a Pharmasist or an Engineer. I noticed that most pharmasist work three days on, three days off. Pharmasist also make over 100K per year. When I looked at the job description, I felt naseous. Everything is done by the book and the consequences of even a minor error are scary. I don't know much about engineering.

    I've considered Architecture, too. The hollond code for architecture is AIR, and my Holland code is AIS. I dont know much about architecture, either.

    I love writing fiction. I plan for this to be my secondary career. I dont see it as secure enough to be my main lifeline, but I love it. I especially like writing science fiction and fantasy.
    First of all, I feel the pain of your indecisiveness in your career search, as I am plagued by this myself. From reading your post, it sounds like you are truly a people person and that you won't really be satisfied unless you're engaging other people in a meaningful context. I think something like teaching might be the way to go. It sounds like the primary reasons why you're considering pharmacy and engineering are the salary and other benefits of the job but that you haven't really thought about what it would be like to do those jobs day in and day out.

    Being a pharmacist is providing a service that people need but you don't get to interact with people extensively. Most of your job will be about chemistry, attention to detail, and getting things done. Being a teacher, you will get a lot more extensive interaction with people. In fact, you'll be one of the primary people in a group of people's lives for a year. There will be a lot of bureaucracy, and perhaps teaching involves more responsibility than an ENFP would want to take on. There's a lot to get done in this field too between all the grading and lesson planning. But I can see an ENFP a lot more content in this field than in pharmacy. Or engineering.

    That's my take on it from your original post. Good luck with whatever you decide! xo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honor View Post
    First of all, I feel the pain of your indecisiveness in your career search, as I am plagued by this myself. From reading your post, it sounds like you are truly a people person and that you won't really be satisfied unless you're engaging other people in a meaningful context. I think something like teaching might be the way to go. It sounds like the primary reasons why you're considering pharmacy and engineering are the salary and other benefits of the job but that you haven't really thought about what it would be like to do those jobs day in and day out.

    Being a pharmacist is providing a service that people need but you don't get to interact with people extensively. Most of your job will be about chemistry, attention to detail, and getting things done. Being a teacher, you will get a lot more extensive interaction with people. In fact, you'll be one of the primary people in a group of people's lives for a year. There will be a lot of bureaucracy, and perhaps teaching involves more responsibility than an ENFP would want to take on. There's a lot to get done in this field too between all the grading and lesson planning. But I can see an ENFP a lot more content in this field than in pharmacy. Or engineering.

    That's my take on it from your original post. Good luck with whatever you decide! xo
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    Definitely teaching, especially children.
    I'm good with children and like em. I voted archi too since INFPs seem to attend these jobs more or less.
    I say it would more appeal to an intro than an extro, but it's still something arty.

    My advice: Find out all your talents and get youself a job that you really like. ENFPs can have different talents. There are very artistic ones, visionaries...etc. And go to university if it takes a higher edu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephano View Post
    Definitely teaching, especially children.
    I'm good with children and like em. I voted archi too since INFPs seem to attend these jobs more or less.
    I say it would more appeal to an intro than an extro, but it's still something arty.

    My advice: Find out all your talents and get youself a job that you really like. ENFPs can have different talents. There are very artistic ones, visionaries...etc. And go to university if it takes a higher edu.
    OK...
    I have a scholarship that makes it to where they pay ME to go to school if it's in-state.
    I must maintain a GPA of 3.8 or higher, though, or else I flunk out.
    My family couldn't afford to send me...
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    I promise I'm not stalking you, really, your threads/posts have just been interesting to me lately.

    It sounds like you have a bunch of positive energy and great ideas for teaching. I think that's wonderful. Try not to let the bureaucracy get you down! My mom and boyfriend are both teachers, and they do have a lot of paperwork, but not so much that it stifles their ability to be creative with lesson planning. At least around here, food given to students just has to be purchased sealed from a retailer (as opposed to homemade) and with no peanuts.

    As for the pay, eh. It's better in some states than others. My state is pretty bad, but unionized states are pretty good, especially considering the excellent benefits packages that are typically offered. It'd probably be enough to reasonably raise one kid on, but it'd help a lot to have a second income earner.

    But I think the most important thing is choosing a career that you find intrinsically satisfying, because ultimately even though a pharmacist might make double or triple the pay, no amount of money is worth spending 8 hours a day, 5 days a week wishing you were somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    I am a 7w6 male ENFP that needs to find a job that is relatively safe and could be family friendly. I've considered teaching literature, or maybe even history, at the middle school level. I believe that job would be a decent comprimise between fun and responsible. I would enjoy creating fun, entertaining, and educational lesson plans. My method would center around spontaneity, creativity, intuition, experiments, and individuality. I would also enjoy giving each child memories that they can remember fondly, and that could inspire them to do amazing things. In addition, summers off would allow me to nurture my own family.

    The downside is that the education system is becoming increasingly bureaucratic. If I wanted to serve chocolate seeds to show what the first native americans tasted when they arrived and started civilization, the paperwork required would be immense. Even though it would involve the children's minds in a debate about why a European would care to bring back such a fruit, the legal work could push things way behind schedule. The same could convievably happen if I tried to bring pomnegranets and allow the pomnegranet seeds to be devoured by the children to help the children ponder why such fruit was considered divine by the Ancient Greeks. The pay might not be enough to support two to three children, either.

    My mother said I should either be a Pharmasist or an Engineer. I noticed that most pharmasist work three days on, three days off. Pharmasist also make over 100K per year. When I looked at the job description, I felt naseous. Everything is done by the book and the consequences of even a minor error are scary. I don't know much about engineering.

    I've considered Architecture, too. The hollond code for architecture is AIR, and my Holland code is AIS. I dont know much about architecture, either.

    I love writing fiction. I plan for this to be my secondary career. I dont see it as secure enough to be my main lifeline, but I love it. I especially like writing science fiction and fantasy.
    Have you tried looking at standard lists of careers for ENFPs? Even if you decide that teaching won’t work out for you, an detailed career list may suggest other fields that provide similar rewards but at better pay, such as counseling for kids. Just google “Careers for ENFPs.”

    For example, I really like this site:

    http://www.personalitydesk.com/caree...rsonality-type

    At that site, go to the drop-down menu under “Select personality type,” click on “Enfp,” and hit “Apply.” Not only will it list career paths, but it will describe the field and tell you the pros and cons for that type of work.

    Also, here’s a generic list of careers for ENFPs from “Do What You Are” by Paul Tieger and Barbara Barron-Tieger:

    ENFP CAREERS

    CREATIVE
    Journalist
    Screenwriter/playwright
    Columnist
    Character actor
    Musician/composer
    Newscaster
    Interior decorator
    Cartoonist
    Artist
    Reporter/editor
    Reporter/editor (magazine)
    Informational-graphics designer

    MARKETING/PLANNING
    Public relations specialist
    Marketing consultant
    Advertising account executive
    Copy writer/publicity writer
    Advertising creative director
    Strategic planner
    Publicist
    Research assistant
    Editor/art director (magazine)

    HEALTH CARE/SOCIAL SERVICE
    Dietician/nutritionist
    Speech-language pathologist/audiologist
    Holistic health practitioner (alternative medicine)
    Massage therapist
    Employee assistance program counselor
    Physical therapist
    Legal mediator

    EDUCATION/COUNSELING
    Special education teacher
    Bilingual education teacher
    Early childhood education teacher
    Teacher: art/drama/music/English
    Child welfare counselor
    Alcohol/drug addiction counselor
    Social worker (elderly and child daycare issues)
    Development director
    Career counselor
    Residential housing director (residence life)
    Ombudsperson
    Pastoral counselor
    Rehabilitation worker
    Social scientist
    Psychologist

    ENTREPRENEURIAL/BUSINESS
    Consultant
    Inventor
    Sales: intangibles/ideas
    Human resources manager
    Human resources development trainer
    Conference planner
    Employment development specialist
    Restaurateur
    Management consultant: change management/team building/diversity
    Merchandise planner
    Diversity manager-human resources
    Corporate/team trainer
    Advertising account manager or account executive
    Public relations specialist
    Marketing executive: radio/TV cable broadcast industry
    Outplacement consultant
    Environmental attorney

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