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    i grew up in an upper middle class household so education was handed to me and like a dumb ass i squandered it my parents could afford to pay for my college i wish i had put effort out. I really wish I did, I'm lucky that I got everything I needed but sometimes I think it hurt me more than helped me in the long run. And I know a lot of you are gonna now think I'm spoiled, which is probably true, but 90% of what I wanted I had to earn I only got everything I needed, such as food,shelter,education,transportation,doctors etc
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    I dont think you're spoiled, I think a lot of people have similar experience and its only lately that I've re-evaluated my own path through education to any great extent.

    The problem is that you're not perhaps mature enough and have enough life experience at the point at which you're being asked to make sense of and use education.

    On the other hand, while I would absolutely hate it if it had happened to me first hand, I tend to think the Chinese and Japanese educational cultures are going to surpass the west soon, if they havent already, they really value learning and dont have the same hang up about not appearing intellectual or intelligent which I see widespread around the west.

    What I think I wasted was the opportunities to train harder physically and really make the best of physical education, although I'm saying that now with my knowledge now, I'd have loved it if PE hadnt just been half and hour of running around a hall or being given a football to kick about with. The teachers always used to marvel at how we couldnt be compelled to do that during the class but we'd all run out and do it spontaneously if someone had a ball at lunch time, that says something about the teaching etc. I'd have loved it if PE had involved lessons about muscle groups, health, avoiding diabetes and fitness training but it didnt.

    When I recall school it was all more like some sort of childcare arrangement than education, technical college was much better and university I think I missed out on socialising and friends but I shouldnt have went to campuses so, so close to home and should have taken advantage of study abroad and all that, which I didnt.

    Perhaps those sorts of regrets are just natural and go with growing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I dont think you're spoiled, I think a lot of people have similar experience and its only lately that I've re-evaluated my own path through education to any great extent.

    The problem is that you're not perhaps mature enough and have enough life experience at the point at which you're being asked to make sense of and use education.

    On the other hand, while I would absolutely hate it if it had happened to me first hand, I tend to think the Chinese and Japanese educational cultures are going to surpass the west soon, if they havent already, they really value learning and dont have the same hang up about not appearing intellectual or intelligent which I see widespread around the west.

    What I think I wasted was the opportunities to train harder physically and really make the best of physical education, although I'm saying that now with my knowledge now, I'd have loved it if PE hadnt just been half and hour of running around a hall or being given a football to kick about with. The teachers always used to marvel at how we couldnt be compelled to do that during the class but we'd all run out and do it spontaneously if someone had a ball at lunch time, that says something about the teaching etc. I'd have loved it if PE had involved lessons about muscle groups, health, avoiding diabetes and fitness training but it didnt.

    When I recall school it was all more like some sort of childcare arrangement than education, technical college was much better and university I think I missed out on socialising and friends but I shouldnt have went to campuses so, so close to home and should have taken advantage of study abroad and all that, which I didnt.

    Perhaps those sorts of regrets are just natural and go with growing up.
    Yeah I wasted a lot, no one wants to hire a 26 year old who has no life/job experience and dropped out of school. it's sad but true.I've also been told that I don't present myself well. But the truth is i have no clue how i present myself.
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    unfortunately, the trend seems to be going that the college diploma is the new high school diploma... you'd be surprised by how educated some of my coworkers are... in a warehouse

    of course, I have 3 degrees and actually have more fun doing what I'm doing and running my hobbies on the side than I ever did in the white collar world when I had no time for my mental (and physical) hobbies
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    unfortunately, the trend seems to be going that the college diploma is the new high school diploma... you'd be surprised by how educated some of my coworkers are... in a warehouse

    of course, I have 3 degrees and actually have more fun doing what I'm doing and running my hobbies on the side than I ever did in the white collar world when I had no time for my mental (and physical) hobbies
    Yeah I've never thrived in a class room setting, so i'm at a disadvantage because of this, i think might be delusional dunno maybe i'm not
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    Yeah I've never thrived in a class room setting, so i'm at a disadvantage because of this, i think might be delusional dunno maybe i'm not
    my mommy, being a teacher for years, really got into the theories of education and they tend to point to the idea that traditional classroom learning certainly ISN'T how everyone learns best... however, no matter how "progressive" everyone seems to whine about educational establishments being (at least in this neck of the woods), they seem to be rather stuck in their ways

    I used to threaten from time to time while in college to quit and go to culinary school to become a baker... my parents liked to point out that I had a full scholarship and would be an idiot to drop out
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    my mommy, being a teacher for years, really got into the theories of education and they tend to point to the idea that traditional classroom learning certainly ISN'T how everyone learns best... however, no matter how "progressive" everyone seems to whine about educational establishments being (at least in this neck of the woods), they seem to be rather stuck in their ways

    I used to threaten from time to time while in college to quit and go to culinary school to become a baker... my parents liked to point out that I had a full scholarship and would be an idiot to drop out
    I had an IEP in school, because i just don't learn the "traditional" way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    I had an IEP in school, because i just don't learn the "traditional" way.
    I wonder from time to time if kids would be better off if there were different classes taught in manners that address different learning styles...

    of course I was sent to "cooperation classes" for a few years to learn how NOT to be an antisocial jackass... they probably weren't particularly effective because she tried to teach them with games which I set out to win in the most cutthroat manner possible without working with anyone else
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I wonder from time to time if kids would be better off if there were different classes taught in manners that address different learning styles...

    of course I was sent to "cooperation classes" for a few years to learn how NOT to be an antisocial jackass... they probably weren't particularly effective because she tried to teach them with games which I set out to win in the most cutthroat manner possible without working with anyone else
    but i like you even if you are one, though you no longer come across as one
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    but i like you even if you are one, though you no longer come across as one
    thankee kind ma'am *tips hat*

    and I've just learned to present those tendencies in a more socially acceptable manner by now... because otherwise I'd probably be sitting in some horrible prison somewhere
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