User Tag List

First 23456 Last

Results 31 to 40 of 74

  1. #31
    & Badger, Ratty and Toad Mole's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    18,536
    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    There is more to education than literacy.
    There is more to education than literacy now that we have the electronic media.

    But until the advent of the electronic media, education was all about printed books.

    So education started in 1440 with the invention of the printing press, but came to an end in 1840 with the invention of the electric telegraph.

  2. #32
    No moss growing on me Giggly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    MBTI
    iSFj
    Enneagram
    2 sx/so
    Posts
    9,666

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    These are skilled trades, not manual labor. They are respectable and often lucrative career choices for both men and women. Joining the military is also an option whose merits are not limited to men.
    Yes I'm aware that those are skilled trades and that they and the military are open to both men and women. There was a reason why I brought these up to jix.

  3. #33
    Senior Member Habba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    MBTI
    ISTJ
    Enneagram
    1w9
    Posts
    998

    Default

    There are serious issues in education systems, but not for the reasons OP mentioned. I think the problem is when education is turned into business. When there's money to be made, certifications and qualifications are valued over students' learning process. Why teach students to be self-sufficient, when you can burden them with work and charge them for thousands of dollars for certificates.

    Further, all education should be public, and free. Private schools are a slap in the face of what education is all about. Highly educated citizens benefit (decreased crime rates, less violence, more innovation, etc) nation, so it should be nation's responsibility to educate them.

    Studying should not be hard work. It should not be expensive. It should not be a prerequisite for a job. It should be passionate.
    "The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine."
    -Nikola Tesla

  4. #34
    Senior Member Scheherezade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Enneagram
    6w5
    Posts
    156

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
    There are serious issues in education systems, but not for the reasons OP mentioned. I think the problem is when education is turned into business. When there's money to be made, certifications and qualifications are valued over students' learning process. Why teach students to be self-sufficient, when you can burden them with work and charge them for thousands of dollars for certificates.

    Further, all education should be public, and free. Private schools are a slap in the face of what education is all about. Highly educated citizens benefit (decreased crime rates, less violence, more innovation, etc) nation, so it should be nation's responsibility to educate them.

    Studying should not be hard work. It should not be expensive. It should not be a prerequisite for a job. It should be passionate.
    i think your socialist views are most likely to die in the upcoming years but it s a great pov

  5. #35
    Analytical Dreamer Coriolis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Enneagram
    5w6 sp/sx
    Posts
    17,581

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 93JC View Post
    The professional occupations mentioned DO require "apprenticeships": doctors must complete their residency, lawyers must complete a period of articling, etc.
    Many medical professions are substituting increased formal schooling for such practical experience, even for those who have been practicing successfully for years. My SO's sister, for instance, is an audiologist, and after working in her field for over 10 years and being certified in three states, she was requied to get another advanced degree in audiology to keep her certifications. She took the path of least resistance, online through one of those for-profit "universities". Same applies for teachers, computer technicians, and probably many more careers I don't even know about, that used to rely much more on apprenticeship-style or on-the-job training.
    I've been called a criminal, a terrorist, and a threat to the known universe. But everything you were told is a lie. The truth is, they've taken our freedom, our home, and our future. The time has come for all humanity to take a stand...

  6. #36
    Permabanned
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    4,338

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Scheherezade View Post
    i think your socialist views are most likely to die in the upcoming years but it s a great pov
    Die? they never even existed outside of theory.

  7. #37
    Permabanned
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    4,338

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyGeek View Post
    @jixmixfix has a point, though. Plus if you want to continue school, you have to really focus on achieving a high GPA and having great extracurriculars. There is no room for screw-ups.

    Undergrad is not fun for me.
    undergrad = money maker.

  8. #38
    Senior Member Scheherezade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    MBTI
    INTJ
    Enneagram
    6w5
    Posts
    156

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Die? they never even existed outside of theory.
    would you care to explain the above? please feel free to contradict me if you so feel the need

  9. #39
    ndovjtjcaqidthi
    Guest

    Default

    Life is too short and precious to be wasted in school.

  10. #40
    & Badger, Ratty and Toad Mole's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    18,536
    Canberra is a university city and we have large numbers of paying students from China and India.

    This is no surprise as China and India are industrialising and need literate individuals.

    And our education system is geared to produce literate individuals.

    Oz though has moved from an industrial economy to a service economy so we are producing tech savvy tribalists for the electric economy.

Similar Threads

  1. So What Is My Type? (Enneagram Edition)
    By Cloud of Thunder in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 06-21-2012, 11:32 AM
  2. is this a good career plan (for what i know so far)
    By prplchknz in forum Academics and Careers
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-19-2011, 06:04 PM
  3. [INFJ] What is the point of feeling things so intensely?
    By KLessard in forum The NF Idyllic (ENFP, INFP, ENFJ, INFJ)
    Replies: 111
    Last Post: 04-05-2010, 05:38 PM
  4. So what is my type ?
    By entropie in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 09-16-2008, 04:27 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO