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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Well, that flies in the face of libertarian chest beating about being self-made ubermenschen and whatnot. Infrastructure? What do they want next? Welfare checks?
    I think so. No self respecting libertarian would work for a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Well, that flies in the face of libertarian chest beating about being self-made ubermenschen and whatnot. Infrastructure? What do they want next? Welfare checks?
    They want the government to build infrastructure, and then to abolish the government at some indeterminate point in the future.

    But on that logic, how will their self-governing utopia compete with other states which still have a government investing in infrastructure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Il Morto Che Parla View Post
    They want the government to build infrastructure, and then to abolish the government at some indeterminate point in the future.

    But on that logic, how will their self-governing utopia compete with other states which still have a government investing in infrastructure?
    There is always the Mongol or Hun method. Ravage the place, plunder their gold, rape their women and leave a sea of skulls in their wake. The ordered neighbour is a twisted ruin and the self-governing utopia stays happy for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standuble View Post
    There is always the Mongol or Hun method. Ravage the place, plunder their gold, rape their women and leave a sea of skulls in their wake. The ordered neighbour is a twisted ruin and the self-governing utopia stays happy for a few years.
    You think people's taxes should pay for an army? damn socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Il Morto Che Parla View Post
    You think people's taxes should pay for an army? damn socialist.
    Who said anything about a professional army? Just get the population to take up arms, turn their ploughshares into pikes and their trowels into blades. Tell them that gold, spices and perfumes of every fragrance await the ones who charge into battle first.

    If anything that's pure capitalism. It's exalting wealth and exploiting morons.

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    Everything is a balance.

    Greed must be kept in check in order to stunt corruption and eventual economic collapse. These issues beget themselves in a cycle as old as human trading systems.

    Or we could replace the system with a new one, which will likely never happen.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
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