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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Hmmm no, I don't think that is necessarily SJ I think SJS want/need security and comfort for the most part. Being materialistic is more of a psychological disorder probably has something to do with being narcissistic. I notice SJs love consistency if something they care about is consistent they are happy. This of course makes for a boring and dull way of living.
    Which is why we like you SPs so much, to make things interesting and new!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinker683 View Post
    Which is why we like you SPs so much, to make things interesting and new!

    (Also, don't care if you're a dude or not, you're still getting a hug)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    DON'T RUN FROM YOUR FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS!!!!
    "The man who is swimming against the stream knows the strength of it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Hmmm no, I don't think that is necessarily SJ I think SJS want/need security and comfort for the most part. Being materialistic is more of a psychological disorder probably has something to do with being narcissistic. I notice SJs love consistency if something they care about is consistent they are happy. This of course makes for a boring and dull way of living.
    lol

    I think that depends on what your default state is. I think my default state is a little chaotic and I don't like that, it makes me unhappy, so I put my efforts towards consistency and stability, and when I experience it, I'm happier.

    And I second @tinker683 's love of SP's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    you're an NTP, you need to experiment and blow things up also for life satisfaction

    Wait,... i wanna blow shit up, just to see what happens.
    I wanna throw yellow paint over the main road and roll in it.

    Sucess does not = money.
    I think desire and ambition are more important...to have something to aspire to...to keep you going...driven.
    "We knew he was someone who had a tragic flaw, that's where his greatness came from"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunnyDigestion View Post

    Actually, what IS success??

    DO U WANT SUCXESS
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    I define my success by my ideals and ethics, that I believe and do what is right and what benefits humanity as a whole.
    Success is a beneficial mark on this world.
    There is no end to success because there can be no objective that doesn't transcend one person's life or lifetime. You could say then, that there is no success, but there is, success is in the attempt, the journey, the reaching for even if never to grasp.
    Advancement and progress, that is success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elisius View Post
    I define my success by my ideals and ethics, that I believe and do what is right and what benefits humanity as a whole.
    Success is a beneficial mark on this world.
    There is no end to success because there can be no objective that doesn't transcend one person's life or lifetime. You could say then, that there is no success, but there is, success is in the attempt, the journey, the reaching for even if never to grasp.
    Advancement and progress, that is success.
    So you wont rest until they are all Borg ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    So you wont rest until they are all Borg ?
    Hahahaha!
    I wouldn't take it that far, I don't think. Admittedly, I am intrigued at the idea of a hive mind, but I think it stifles further development and creativity that our 'inferior individualism' can afford us.
    Freedom and individuality are things that make people happy, to take those away would defeat the entire purpose of whatever you were taking them away to do because, at least in my opinion, happiness is the bottom line.
    I guess I misspoke before, advancement and progress are success only so long as they are advancing and progressing sustainable human happiness and longevity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elisius View Post
    Hahahaha!
    I wouldn't take it that far, I don't think. Admittedly, I am intrigued at the idea of a hive mind, but I think it stifles further development and creativity that our 'inferior individualism' can afford us.
    Freedom and individuality are things that make people happy, to take those away would defeat the entire purpose of whatever you were taking them away to do because, at least in my opinion, happiness is the bottom line.
    I guess I misspoke before, advancement and progress are success only so long as they are advancing and progressing sustainable human happiness and longevity.
    I came to know from experience that the greatest challenge for an idealist in life can be accepting that another person can have a completly un-idealistic opinion. Many extreme "green" parties in my country have an idealistic worldview that is nice and that everybody would want but that would never align with human nature. I as a realist, try to factor in the ugly side of life as well and I try to think of it as part of our existence. It's like the World presented in Bladerunner, ugly, dirty and filthy but still loveable cause there is hope.

    I dont want to imply that you do not think that way, it was just what came to my mind when I read your post. Sadly many strong idealists live in some sort of dream World from my PoV and I tend to think of that as escapism from the real World.
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