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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Shouldnt scoring A be scoring 100% correct(or very close to it)? I kinda doubt that half are scoring 100% correct on tests and if they are, it only shows that the tests are way too easy and dont leave room to get better for people doing alot of studuying and/or are naturally gifted with the subject.
    90-100% is an A.

    Although technically, 90-94% is usually an A-.

    Average grades for tests in my class range from 50-70%. And there is no curving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    This problem can be boiled down to retention. Students who get Ds drop out. Most schools are navigating a huge budget crisis and need paying students to keep them afloat. If you give dumb and/or lazy D students Cs they will stay and they will pay. It's not that admins see this as super moral, but what would you do in their shoes? Don't forget how many hard working, committed, growth-oriented students they also have a responsibility for. Resources have to come from somewhere to make sure they have professors, classrooms and labs, electricity to run huge campuses, etc.
    Not entirely retention, it's also about reputation. As a grad student TA teaching Phys Chem, there was definitely a motivation to go easy on them: Your undergraduate GPA will, in effect, haunt you-- and by proxy, the school-- for the rest of your life. Since this was a large public university getting lots of taxpayer money, they weren't all that concerned about retention. Personally, though, I'm a hard-ass, so after going easy on them, my grade distributions found a nice middle ground somewhere around 60-70% average, if I recall correctly. It was possible to get an A, and several people did each semester, but you had to earn it the hard way.

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    They said only one person of 56 graduated my class with an A. (But warned us ahead of time that people who normally ace things will not do so in the program- leading to a lot of nervous breakdowns of course.)
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    Yeah my GPA is a shitty 3.1.

    Can't be that easy to get A's...or maybe I really am that dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 93JC View Post
    Who in their right mind would spend several times more money on a 'private' education if they weren't expected to get better grades than they would at a 'public' institution?
    My thoughts exactly. I doubt employers will actually pay attention to this, so graduates of private colleges will likely continue to reap more benefits from name recognition. My guess is it all comes down to this for a lot of students deciding whether to go for the economical college choice or the costly choice with similar academic standards...but maybe I'm giving people too much credit; they do a lot of dumb shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcockburn View Post
    Yeah my GPA is a shitty 3.1.

    Can't be that easy to get A's...or maybe I really am that dumb.
    shut up 3.1 isn't bad. I'm not mentioning my gpa because it's embarrasing but i will say it's less than 3.1 but i had external factors that are just now being addressed.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    Yeah, I should add that this was in biology. I can't really speak to what it was in the arts. Unlike most people I didn't actually find that I got higher marks in the psych/sociology classes I took than I did in my hard science classes - about the same really. In some cases I actually did worse when the expectations for essays etc were unclear (whereas biology is very straightforward marking-wise!). On the other hand, I studied substantially less for the fluff courses, so maybe that's why.
    Haha oh man, yes. Apparently adding graphs that show the decreasing volume of the Pyramids throughout the ages in a paper is strange but adding pictures that could be interpreted in a zillion ways is not. Also taking 1 page to explain something that should require only 1/3 of a page (or less) is thoroughly encouraged.
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    In my engineering classes, the published averages would be between C+ and B+. I think there was an A- average only once and that was for the fourth-year thesis but that's understandable, since profs can be extremely selective when accepting to supervise students. In grad school, most students would get at least an A- though, probably for the same reason as the undergrad thesis A-.

    My elective classes from the arts department were different. You could get good grades with less effort (I felt) but there was no definite trend with the class averages. Some were still in the C+ B- range whereas in other classes, it would be in the B B+ range. But I did hear of some classes though which pretty much guaranteed at least an A but it was hard to get in because of the long lists..

    So I'd say it depends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    shut up 3.1 isn't bad. I'm not mentioning my gpa because it's embarrasing but i will say it's less than 3.1 but i had external factors that are just now being addressed.
    I personally think that simply passing suffices, but if you want to get into an Ivy League MBA program, you won't even be looked at with less than a 3.7.

    And external factors...yeah. That's a grade killer. I work 60+ hours a week on top of being a double-major, and I'm also an officer at a Greek organization and am trying to work on a patent (which got rejected, sigh) and am also pursuing certain hobbies.

    Ironically, that's why I fuck around here so much - I never get extended time periods to relax, so I keep my sanity by taking mini-breaks frequently throughout my workday.

    And skipping class if need be. Which is very frequent.

    = death to GPA if participation/memorization of lecture counts for the class.

    3 hours of sleep on average probably doesn't help. Now 8 hours would feel like too much. =_=
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    shut up 3.1 isn't bad. I'm not mentioning my gpa because it's embarrasing but i will say it's less than 3.1 but i had external factors that are just now being addressed.
    I personally think that simply passing suffices, but if you want to get into an Ivy League MBA program, you won't even be looked at with less than a 3.7.

    And external factors...yeah. That's a grade killer. I work 60+ hours a week on top of being a double-major, and I'm also an officer at a Greek organization and am trying to work on a patent (which got rejected, grrr) and am also pursuing certain hobbies.

    Ironically, that's why I fuck around here so much - I never get extended time periods to relax, so I keep my sanity by taking mini-breaks frequently throughout my workday.

    And skipping class if need be. Which is very frequent.

    = death to GPA if participation/memorization of lecture counts for the class.
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    So, a lot of programs judge you on your GPA if you want to go to grad school or med school... My college is known to have surprisingly few pre-meds and no happy ones, not because so few people get A's here, but because the people who fail out of my school could graduate with straight A's in two or three years from a state uni. This realization generally makes us question what the hell we're doing here ^.^ So, there are classes with a lot of A's, but all only give it with a lot of work... We are unable to graduate in four years unless we take classes that give us an official expectation of 40 hours of work per week, at least, which means most people take 45 minimum, which is 5 classes. I dunno. Everyone here got near straight A's in high school. We all aced everything. There are classes where the grading scheme is that the bottom five fail (or rather, the bottom five fail unless they get a certain percent, which has never happened before). Going from easily the top of our high school classes to, for half of us, below average, is rough. A lot of the people I know here have failed classes. It's easier for me to think of people who have failed things than those who haven't. (And the ones who haven't dropped a class they would have at some point, generally). So...

    Then again, I go to a science school. If I went to a humanities one, maybe my impression of college grades would be very different. But here at least, they are pretty generous with F's.
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