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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenon View Post
    Pretty much what I was going to say. Also, I would think many people who don't have the personality for sales would know it, and would know the job would be hellish for them and not even attempt it in the first place. I know I never would.
    Me either. I've been offered good money once at it, but the whole idea sounded lame. And she kept telling me how I'd love it, and how good I'd be. Pfft. Women will say anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    fair enough. i was just wondering if the job itself changes you.
    not that I've ever seen... my mother said that she assumed that I'd enjoy working sales even when I was a child because I've never feared talking to strangers

    Quote Originally Posted by Xenon View Post
    Pretty much what I was going to say. Also, I would think many people who don't have the personality for sales would know it, and would know the job would be hellish for them and not even attempt it in the first place. I know I never would.
    some people who aren't a good fit are desperate enough for a job that they will interview for a sales job anyways... I won't hire someone who isn't a good fit, but sometimes less experienced people will and they tend to quit rather quickly
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    some people who aren't a good fit are desperate enough for a job that they will interview for a sales job anyways... I won't hire someone who isn't a good fit, but sometimes less experienced people will and they tend to quit rather quickly
    Yeah, I can see that. There's probably some filtering on several levels: people who know they don't have the personality for it are less likely to get into it, and if they are desperate enough to try they either won't be hired or will soon quit. So the people left are those who are a good fit. I'd think it would usually be painfully obvious if you aren't cut out for sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenon View Post
    Yeah, I can see that. There's probably some filtering on several levels: people who know they don't have the personality for it are less likely to get into it, and if they are desperate enough to try they either won't be hired or will soon quit. So the people left are those who are a good fit. I'd think it would usually be painfully obvious if you aren't cut out for sales.
    In my case, I was asked to recruit for a tech school. Not because I necessarily knew the subject matter. I don't even have a degree. I think she did see something in my personality that connects with the potential students, and how I could sell the school to them. I don't want to really talk about myself this way, but she saw me as some "well adjusted delinquent" who could somehow convince every other loser in town to care about their future. Except I can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenon View Post
    Yes, it's naive horseshit.
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    why not do something that makes a lot of money, gradually systemize is and reduce the time you need to spend on it? then you have plenty of time and money to pursue your real passions.
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    It's the politically correct thing to say, otherwise the kiddies will either cry or blow off school altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    oh totally, because my social science degrees have SO paid off since I got them

    ... I do enjoy what I do and I don't make bad money at it... and I have plenty of room for advancement, but that's because what I enjoy doing is something for which there is a demand and not everyone can do it (no matter what some people say)

    doing what you love and becoming rich from it only works if you have outstanding talents and loves, otherwise, that advice is total bullshit
    I would never last in sales. It would be a disaster. Your company would go out of business in weeks.

    Me: "Yes, the vacuum has a warranty, like I told you 5 times before. Now how many more dumb questions do you need to ask before you just buy the fucking thing. It's 70 goddamn bucks, are you that poor? How much did that hideous fish tank over there cost? Does Nemo clean your floors?"

    your customer: "I'm sorry, what??"

    me: "you should be sorry. Now go find your wallet, and you might as well pull out a hundred so that you may tip me."
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    Well, I think it's wiser to think about this: what is something I like but that could potentially lead to a job with a good (i.e. you can life off it without too many troubles) monetary prospect? Basically, trying to combine the two "problems".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    That expression could be true for everyone but mostly it'll only be true for exceptionally perceptive, creative, enterprising, fearless and talented people.
    i definitely think it's a mindset thing. not only about
    the end goal, but the steps one must take to achieve
    it. and each person's approach to it varies.

    i actually really like that expression, because it's served
    me well. i have a hard time sticking to things, but i found
    something that i was kinda naturally good at, so it was
    easy for me to spend time with it in order to develop
    and hone my skills. and the more i learned about it, and
    the more fluent i became with doing the job, the more i
    really got into it and eventually grew to love it. i say 'grew
    to love' because i mean... work is... work. there's not so
    much to love at face value initially. but like any kind of love,
    gotta put forth effort you know?

    on average i work 70 hour weeks, not only is it a time
    investment, but it takes a lot of commitment and uses
    up a lot of my energy. but strangely work really energizes
    me at the same time. and if i didn't love it, i don't think i'd
    still be doing it.
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