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    Red face Changing Careers... How Does One Accomplish This Most Magical of Tasks?

    My current ideas: Writer or PsyD.

    Pro on Writing: It's awesome!
    Con on Writing: I would actually have to write.

    Pro on PsyD: It's meaninful!
    Con on PsyD: I will be marrying myself to Debt, and Debt isn't that great in bed.

    I did a web search on "careers for INFPs" and I pretty much wanted to barf at my type.

    I guess my question to the external world is:

    • What are other career options that I could explore?
    • How do I go about creating an actual game plan to get these ideas done?
    • What is the meaning of my life?
    • Why are tacos soo delicious?


    And here is a picture of a cute puppy to sucker you into answering me:

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    *suckered in by the cute puppy*

    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    Pro on Writing: It's awesome!
    Con on Writing: I would actually have to write.


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    Pro on PsyD: It's meaninful!
    Con on PsyD: I will be marrying myself to Debt, and Debt isn't that great in bed.
    Yeah, but see, PsyD's are!

    Throw typology out the window. It's only useful to the point that it gives you attractive career suggestions and in showing possible pros and cons about your extrapolated happiness in each field. I prefer real happiness myself.

    Do what you would be happiest doing regardless of money, but also consider if it makes enough money so as not to detract from that happiness.

    If that's doesn't work for you, find a career which is tolerable and capable of producing enough money to become financially independent quickly.

    And if that doesn't seem to work, find a career which is just tolerable.

    If that doesn't work, marry someone who has had more success at the above, and is open to letting you pursue whatever.

    And finally, if that doesn't work, marry someone who wants kids and likes the idea of you being a stay at home parent. Edit: or just a stay at home spouse?

    I kind of like the PsyD option though. I seriously considered it myself, and might still do it some day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    [*]What is the meaning of my life?
    The meaning is in the quest to make it more meaningful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    [*]Why are tacos soo delicious?
    It's the seasoning in the meat, and the contrast between the hard and soft food textures and flavors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAVO View Post
    *suckered in by the cute puppy*



    Yeah, but see, PsyD's are!
    *jots note down on notepad* Sleep with a Doctor.

    Throw typology out the window. It's only useful to the point that it gives you attractive career suggestions and in showing possible pros and cons about your extrapolated happiness in each field. I prefer real happiness myself.
    Good point. I look at the list of "magical" careers for INFPs and the summation I come up with is that INFPs don't do anything particularly useful... It's a giant list of "oh, be free little butterfly and fly!" That's awesome, but doesn't pay my mortgage or pool boy.

    Do what you would be happiest doing regardless of money, but also consider if it makes enough money so as not to detract from that happiness.
    That would be marine biology. I might as well be an English Major... oh wait, that's right, that's what I am!

    If that's doesn't work for you, find a career which is tolerable and capable of producing enough money to become financially independent quickly.
    I dub this the "inherit millions" from my relatives plan. Unfortunately, I am not in their wills. Also, they probably aren't millionaires.

    And if that doesn't seem to work, find a career which is just tolerable.
    I am currently running my own business. It definitely has it's rewards - independence, etc. But this business wasn't my dream (enter whiny INFP syndrome.... NOW) and therefore my soul is desperately seeking something more worthwhile and magical and (considering past desires) doesn't exist yet.

    If that doesn't work, marry someone who has had more success at the above, and is open to letting you pursue whatever.
    I like this plan!

    INFP SEEKS ENTJ FOR GOOD TIME IN VEGAS WEDDING CHAPEL

    What do you think about that ad? I think it's pretty straight-forward... ENTJs like that kind of stuff right? Right?!

    And finally, if that doesn't work, marry someone who wants kids and likes the idea of you being a stay at home parent. Edit: or just a stay at home spouse?
    INFP SEEKS ESTJ FOR MARRIAGE.

    I have a secret fear (And I am not really joking) that if I ever have children, I will misplace them. :c Like, this morning I couldn't find my keys for 30 minutes. Finally found them under a pile of cushions from my couch.

    The meaning is in the quest to make it more meaningful.
    Gah! And now we have come back to the center of this shrubbery maze.

    It's the seasoning in the meat, and the contrast between the hard and soft food textures and flavors.
    Now I want tacos for dinner. :c

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    Pro on Writing: It's awesome!
    Con on Writing: I would actually have to write.
    Just a question... where do you come up with these ideas if you don't even like to do them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctus Iacobus View Post
    Just a question... where do you come up with these ideas if you don't even like to do them?
    From the secret land of sarcasm.

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    Take stock of your interests, your desired skills, "your people", your desired lifestyle, and your desired role in the world. What occupations would combine all these things? Only you can answer this. But you may need to interview a lot of people who have careers that look "correct" for you on "first pass".

    Accept the past. Live for the present. Look forward to the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAVO View Post
    Do what you would be happiest doing regardless of money...
    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    That would be marine biology.
    Bingo. One life. Make it happen. Ask questions later.
    NTJ's are the only types that have ever made me feel emo.
    ENP's are the only types that have ever made me feel like a sensor.


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    Having done a major career shift I'd make a few observations:

    1) Get REALLY tired of what you are doing now. It helped me motivate myself to make a change. When people asked me "how could you walk away from a good career and go back to school" my reply was: "Easy, I was so sick of what I was doing there wasn't enough money possible to keep me there".

    2) If you have debt, get rid of it. You can't go and get retrained with an $600 car payment hanging over your head and bunch of consumer debt.

    3) If the career switch is radical and there are a few fundamentals you need to pick (more math or what ever) check out your local CC and see if you can do them part time before you jump into a full time "back to school" life style. You'll get done more quickly, you'll feel like you are making progress while you are rearranging your life, and you'll know if the new path is really all that attractive.

    4) Either don't become a parent or wait until the kids are at least partially self sufficient.

    5) Tacos are delicous because you can stuff them with just about anything and you almost HAVE to eat them out of your hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    Veterinarian.
    I have thought about this. ^_^ I likez ze animals!

    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    Take stock of your interests, your desired skills, "your people", your desired lifestyle, and your desired role in the world. What occupations would combine all these things? Only you can answer this. But you may need to interview a lot of people who have careers that look "correct" for you on "first pass".
    Interests: Animals, science, learning, creating, people, writing, reading, analyzing.

    Desired Skills: Being creative, inventive, independence, analyzing, problem solving, idea generating

    People: ???

    Lifestyle: Being independent/self-sufficient, low-key, hopefully someday by a giant pool of water

    Role in World: Bringing meaning to life, showing something new, creating something new, helping somehow making something vaguely better

    Occupations: Writing.... And now I am re-stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    Bingo. One life. Make it happen. Ask questions later.
    Haha, yes. Except for the fact that me being a scientist would be all about me being alone on a boat somewhere doing things alone and not talking to another human being for a few years. Which sounds perfectly lovely to me, but doesn't really bring a soul kind of meaning to anyone's life. Plus it would encourage my hermitage self to come forth and take over. Wait... maybe that isn't a bad idea... Ok, goodbye forever! I am off to my island in the south Pacific!



    Quote Originally Posted by jimrckhnd View Post
    Having done a major career shift I'd make a few observations:

    1) Get REALLY tired of what you are doing now. It helped me motivate myself to make a change. When people asked me "how could you walk away from a good career and go back to school" my reply was: "Easy, I was so sick of what I was doing there wasn't enough money possible to keep me there".

    2) If you have debt, get rid of it. You can't go and get retrained with an $600 car payment hanging over your head and bunch of consumer debt.

    3) If the career switch is radical and there are a few fundamentals you need to pick (more math or what ever) check out your local CC and see if you can do them part time before you jump into a full time "back to school" life style. You'll get done more quickly, you'll feel like you are making progress while you are rearranging your life, and you'll know if the new path is really all that attractive.

    4) Either don't become a parent or wait until the kids are at least partially self sufficient.

    5) Tacos are delicous because you can stuff them with just about anything and you almost HAVE to eat them out of your hands.
    2- Easier said than done. My debt is school loan from my BA, and my house mortgage. No car or CC debt. Which is why I am having a hard time considering doing the PsyD because from what I have currently researched, I would be adding another 150k to my debt load. Yikes!

    3- It's looking like it will have to be radical. I thought about getting my MFA, but then decided against it. (MFA would be the easiest route for me since I have my undergrad covered.) Getting a masters in creative writing seems like a waste of time to me. Either I have the talent or I don't. And considering what drivel does get published, the only thing really standing in my way is my own self.

    So let's brainstorm what soul selling series I could create. The Necrophilia/Beastiality market is already cornered thanks to Stephanie Meyers. So maybe I could write a children's series about a lonely star who shoots down to earth. Or a heart warming tale of a girl who falls down a well and ends up in the land of elves. Or something else.

    4- Currently not an issue.

    5- Tacos ARE delicious. I think I will make some tacos tonight and stuff them with.... more tacos. *world explodes*


    But seriously - a big bunny thanks to everyone who has replied so far! I appreciate the idea generating. I know myself well enough that I am fond of jumping off cliffs into fantasy land, and I am trying to keep some practicality about myself as well.

    Other careers I have given thought to:
    Law school - did my research and discovered there are far too many law student graduates and not enough law jobs.
    Nursing - This one still kind of intrigues me. I like medical stuff.

    I do have to laugh at ICUP's similar thread since they are complaining about being too old at 29 and I am thinking I am too old at 33.

    Here is a bunny picture as thanks to you all!


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