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    What do you want to study? What sort of career do you see yourself in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    What do you want to study? What sort of career do you see yourself in?
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    Hmmmm, am I being too secretive about my intended major(s)?

    I have toured both A&M College Station and UT Austin, and for some inexplicable reason, I HATED A&M. Practically speaking, it might've been the perfect school. It's cheap, it's decent, and it's a little more than an hour away from where I live, but I just didn't like it. Maybe it sounds a little wish-washy and new age-ish, but when I was there for an extracurricular program (I stayed on campus for a period time) I just didn't get the right vibes.

    UT Austin, on the other hand, I actually liked quite a bit. Granted, I wasn't actually in Austin for academic reasons (SXSW!), but the campus vibe in general felt more comfortable to me when I visited. Something always in the back of my mind, though, is that if I go to UT, I will be with the exact same crowd of people I went to high school with. It's said among certain circles that UT Austin is pretty much a miniature of my high school, anyone who doesn't go Ivy or international goes there. Not that I mind, really, or that it's a huge concern, but it's another tiny negative added to the scale.

    I think some people have pointed out that I'm strangely limiting my choices to two schools, but like my OP said, I'm planning to apply to seven. Columbia and UT are just the most attractive choices atm (I suppose location/ranking of my intended school of study and cost-effectiveness/comfort, respectively). Brown is figuring prominently into my considerations at the moment...but, it's just as pricey as Columbia, so that's a whole other issue in itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mujigay View Post
    Hmmmm, am I being too secretive about my intended major(s)?
    There are some fields where UT would be just fine (for example, anything in the petroleum industry, or within the state of Texas). In other, if not most, fields, the Ivy League degree will absolutely provide a substantial advantage compared to alternatives. It's terribly unfair, but there are doors available to you as a Columbia grad that simply aren't there for a graduate of a state U, particularly in this day and age.

    There's something important to note here - you don't go to college to get an education. An education might be a nice byproduct, but the reason you (assuming you're middle class) go to a university in the United States is to secure a signifier of elevated social class, or, when we're euphemizing it, that a person "has what it takes" to make it in a certain field.

    Just something to keep in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mujigay View Post
    Hmmmm, am I being too secretive about my intended major(s)?

    I have toured both A&M College Station and UT Austin, and for some inexplicable reason, I HATED A&M. Practically speaking, it might've been the perfect school. It's cheap, it's decent, and it's a little more than an hour away from where I live, but I just didn't like it. Maybe it sounds a little wish-washy and new age-ish, but when I was there for an extracurricular program (I stayed on campus for a period time) I just didn't get the right vibes.

    UT Austin, on the other hand, I actually liked quite a bit. Granted, I wasn't actually in Austin for academic reasons (SXSW!), but the campus vibe in general felt more comfortable to me when I visited. Something always in the back of my mind, though, is that if I go to UT, I will be with the exact same crowd of people I went to high school with. It's said among certain circles that UT Austin is pretty much a miniature of my high school, anyone who doesn't go Ivy or international goes there. Not that I mind, really, or that it's a huge concern, but it's another tiny negative added to the scale.

    I think some people have pointed out that I'm strangely limiting my choices to two schools, but like my OP said, I'm planning to apply to seven. Columbia and UT are just the most attractive choices atm (I suppose location/ranking of my intended school of study and cost-effectiveness/comfort, respectively). Brown is figuring prominently into my considerations at the moment...but, it's just as pricey as Columbia, so that's a whole other issue in itself.
    If you don't like your high school friends/classmates, you don't have to bother interacting with them

    I knew my community college and 4 year college that I was heading to was going to be filled with people I know from high school. I mean, I was quite sure everyone else was thinking like I was thinking (first two years paying almost nothing, and transfer to another college for the remainder.)

    People I didn't like, I didn't have to interact with them. People I do like? I see them around campus nowadays.

    The college I went to have a pretty nice Computer Science and Engineering department (often getting funds from public and private companies) as well as a pretty competitive nursing program and graphic design program. So, like onemoretime said, it also depends on the degree that you want. Some programs at one college aren't as great as another from another college. And it can turn into something like comparing San Jose State to something like Chico State or even CalPoly. Which each have a slightly different emphasis. Some colleges tend to either teach in a more abstract way while others try to teach in a more practical approach. Hell, I might have actually attended Chico State instead (even if it was a party college...) if I knew I was going the route I am currently taking.

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    If you want progressive and out there (you mentioned 'new-agey' and SXSW), go to Brown or Wesleyan, don't even bother with Columbia. BOOOORING. Unless you secretly just wanna run around NYC raising hell. In which case, there are much cheaper schools in NYC.

    My school was a college not university and I would say it has a really strong alumna network, especially in certain cities, comes in handy if you wanna use it. So, it is a factor.

    But, it is true, in your long range goals you wanna aim higher. Your last alma mater is most important in terms of networking and prestige and also training/education. Going to a cheaper maybe less prestigious state school then going to an Ivy for grad school looks better (yes, we're all snobs) and looks like a better investment of time, money, and studying than the reverse - going to an expensive prestigious undergrad but then a cheaper, less prestigious state school for grad school.
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    I applied to 5 colleges, including the one my parents both attended, and one Ivy League. In the end, the ivy league was the only one I could comfortably afford because the financial aid was so much more generous. I graduated with $10K of loans. It was also the case that one could withdraw after early decision for financial reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mujigay View Post
    I'm gearing up for college applications (yes, it's a bit early to most, but in my mind, it's never too early) and I'm caught in a bit of dilemma.

    I'm applying to seven schools, actually, but the top two are the University of Texas and Columbia University. I have a pretty fantastic transcript, not to brag, and I'm about 80% certain that if I apply to Columbia early decision, I'll get in (for Ivy Leagues, applying early decision is pretty much the only way to get in, unless you've got some kind of gob-smacking application), but if I do that, I lock myself into that school. Furthermore, I'm not sure what kind of financial aid I'll be getting, and as I'm sure most of you know...it's not cheap to go there.

    If I go to the University of Texas at Austin, I'm pretty much guaranteed to get in, and it'll be practically free. My father was in the military, and state scholarships for children of veterans combined with academic awards I've picked up would make it very, VERY, cheap to go. However, I've been desperate to get out of Texas, and the thought of another four years here kind of weighs me down.

    Advice?
    UT is an awesome school! Seriously. GO THERE. I'd put UT as like "a Michigan" tier. No one will ever scoff at your school, and it will certainly be a "good school". Avoiding debt is the first step to getting ahead in life. DEBT IS HORRIBLE! The only reason I'd EVER go to an ivy is if I wanted to get a wallstreet job. They are some of the most fickle people ON EARTH. Besides them, UT will be plenty good for anything.

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    Depends what you are planning on studying. Law for example, I'd recommend the Ivy. Science not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    There are some fields where UT would be just fine (for example, anything in the petroleum industry, or within the state of Texas). In other, if not most, fields, the Ivy League degree will absolutely provide a substantial advantage compared to alternatives. It's terribly unfair, but there are doors available to you as a Columbia grad that simply aren't there for a graduate of a state U, particularly in this day and age.

    There's something important to note here - you don't go to college to get an education. An education might be a nice byproduct, but the reason you (assuming you're middle class) go to a university in the United States is to secure a signifier of elevated social class, or, when we're euphemizing it, that a person "has what it takes" to make it in a certain field.

    Just something to keep in mind.
    How old are you? This is one of those rare moments I disagree with you on all points. Your response seems to be based on logical conclusions, but lacks real world experience.

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