User Tag List

123 Last

Results 1 to 10 of 33

  1. #1
    Resident Snot-Nose GZA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    MBTI
    infp
    Posts
    1,771

    Default Why shouldn't I drop out of school?

    I know some people who have dropped out and started working mundane jobs who are very happy to not have to worry about grades any more. On the other hand, apparently in the long term university leads to much better jobs (although it seems this is becoming less true due to academic inflation).

    I'm not considering it very seriously but it occasionally crosses my mind. I really dislike school and I question how useful it really is... it seems the value of a university education is declining. I am seriously considering at least taking a break from school for a bit if I can't change my direction altogether. I also find it all very interesting to discuss.

    Just for arguments sake, why shouldn't I drop out of school?

    And, how has a university education benefitted you?

  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    6w5
    Posts
    3,278

    Default

    Because although your core might remain static.. Your values are in a constant state of fluctuation and need consistent inventory to remain up to date.

    What you value now is almost certain to change in the future.. So make choices that protect that future.. I am only learning this now.. The hard way..

    You might be totally different.. But I would still consider that what you believe now.. might not be what you believe in, in 5 years.

  3. #3
    insert random title here Randomnity's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    MBTI
    ISTP
    Enneagram
    6w5 sp/sx
    Posts
    9,489

    Default

    It depends what you're going to do with your degree, of course. If I'm remembering correctly I think you mentioned before that you don't intend to work in that career in the future, so it might not actually be useful for you.

    But most living-wage jobs require college (trade school etc) if not university degrees. My career requires university, so it's essential for me. You could say the value is declining because most people have degrees these days, but this certainly doesn't mean you don't need a degree, it's more the opposite I would think.

    Degrees should be chosen carefully of course, some are far more useful/useless than others....
    -end of thread-

  4. #4
    Senior Member Stigmata's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    MBTI
    ENTP
    Posts
    1,371

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GZA View Post
    I know some people who have dropped out and started working mundane jobs who are very happy to not have to worry about grades any more. On the other hand, apparently in the long term university leads to much better jobs (although it seems this is becoming less true due to academic inflation).

    I'm not considering it very seriously but it occasionally crosses my mind. I really dislike school and I question how useful it really is... it seems the value of a university education is declining. I am seriously considering at least taking a break from school for a bit if I can't change my direction altogether. I also find it all very interesting to discuss.

    Just for arguments sake, why shouldn't I drop out of school?

    And, how has a university education benefitted you?
    Having a degree of some sort doesn't guarantee anything, but it helps further stack the chips in your favor. Dropping out of school doesn't necessarily mean you're going to either be flipping burgers or working as a fluffer on porn sets, but it severely limits your options. If you plan to enter the corporate world, unless you know someone, by dropping out you're ensuring that your going to have to work twice as hard, twice as long, for half the pay and almost no recognition or job security. Also, does having a degree have to necessarily be thought of as the means? Couldn't attaining it in itself be gratifying, even if it doesn't directly amount to anything tangible other than itself? I see it as a testament to ones ability to focus the mind on striving to achieve a goal, and actually following through with it.

  5. #5
    nee andante bechimo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    8,028

    Default

    Many employers have drawn the line with minimum requirements of a university degree. Consider your life a game of strategy where each move consolidates your position.

    Having said that, with the dearth of white collar degrees being pumped out into the current knowledge based environment, a hole has been left for technically educated workers. If you're interested in being an electrician or plumber, I hear this type of worker is in demand.

  6. #6
    resonance entropie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    MBTI
    entp
    Enneagram
    783
    Posts
    16,761

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    Many employers have drawn the line with minimum requirements of a university degree. Consider your life a game of strategy where each move consolidates your position.
    Considering life with a constant strategy for oneself isnt the thing for everyone. Tho society demands it more and more, I think in the end always those will be more successful who didnt always had a clear path in life, thru that tho developed different abilities in different fields. I'ld never put the pressure on me to play things like that, because it is not what I wanted. Most people are born and dont know who they are, adapting then to strategies shown by other people is a good thing to learn some things, but adapting your whole life to a masterplan somebody else wrote for you does in 99,9% of all cases lead to unhappiness in the long run. You dont need to have an A in every class to become rich in life, on the contrary having an A everywhere rather lets you appear to be a mindless machine. And in the long run every achievement will be insignificant, if you aint happy with yourself. Telling oneself one is having a successful career, wont cure this unhappiness aswell.

    Regarding the op's question: the most simplest answer is that you are qualöified to do a wider variety of jobs if you go for University education, but I dont think it's the answer you are looking for. The answer you are looking for can be compared to smoking. It's tempting to not start smoking at young age and then when you do you feel good for a time. After that time tho then, you feel not so good no more and start recognizing you are quite dependant on cigarettes. You maybe have to work 2 jobs at a time to just pay your rent and your cigarettes and you have no hope of it getting any better. And then you ask yourself why you started smoking at all. The answer is simple:

    At the moment it was and you gave in to temptation, tho you should have known better. You choosed the easy way, tho you have should known better. And while all your friends are having their graduation party and really feel they have achieved something cause they sticked with the job, you are smoking 2 packages a day having nothing. You'll always recognize the success of your work and be happy with it, long after it has been done. It may not even be your graduation day on which you're proud with you finishing school, it may happen even happen later. But one thing's foir sure, the unhappiness with not finishing will come quicker and will be your friend for the rest of your life.

    There's german writer who once said: To become happy in life, means to evade temptations.
    [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBvftJUwDw&t=0s[/URL]

  7. #7
    Senior Member chachamaru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    MBTI
    ENFP
    Enneagram
    ?
    Socionics
    EXPP
    Posts
    451

    Default

    You should drop out.

    It's fun.

    And cheap.

    And you can be rich, too.

    Just buy my book. CLICK THE LINK HERE! ONLY $399! SECRETS TO BEING A VAGILLIONAIR!
    a cat is fine too

  8. #8
    mrs disregard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    MBTI
    INFP
    Posts
    7,855

    Default

    If you dislike it, drop out. I love school and want to stay in it for as long as possible. It's there for you, not the other way around.

  9. #9
    Wild Card Atomic Fiend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    MBTI
    ESTP
    Enneagram
    873 sx/so
    Socionics
    SLE Ti
    Posts
    7,164

    Default

    If you have other plans that will net you income in the future and you're not getting what you want from college, then you SHOULD drop out of school.

    Otherwise no stick to it.

  10. #10
    insert random title here Randomnity's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    MBTI
    ISTP
    Enneagram
    6w5 sp/sx
    Posts
    9,489

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    If you dislike it, drop out. I love school and want to stay in it for as long as possible. It's there for you, not the other way around.
    You should also quit going to work if it's not fun anymore. It's there for you, after all.
    -end of thread-

Similar Threads

  1. Thinking about dropping out of college
    By decrescendo in forum Academics and Careers
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 09-16-2013, 10:59 PM
  2. I've been out of school for a while...
    By swordpath in forum Academics and Careers
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 02-15-2010, 11:53 AM
  3. applying to grad school after being out of college
    By FaithBW in forum Academics and Careers
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 11-22-2009, 02:30 AM
  4. Out of Africa
    By wildcat in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 95
    Last Post: 12-30-2007, 01:43 PM
  5. So Paris is out of jail...
    By The Ü™ in forum The Bonfire
    Replies: 39
    Last Post: 06-12-2007, 03:08 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO