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    You people are missing a point that Babyloncandle is making. In order to stop being a target of bullying, you either get in line with the defined rules by the present social platform(follow the guidelines, befriend or neutralize you're relationship with the bully, or give them no reason to bully you) or you establish you're own dominance by violence and draw the line. You get the message across to the bully so to speak, that you are no potential push-around.

    You cannot really reason with a bully or convince them of their wrong-doing, since they don't really reason, they work by instinct, in their minds you are nothing but their daily quota of abuse. You have no rights, no voice, they have already defined the boundaries of their relationship with you, the moment they decided you were a punchingbag.

    You can only avoid them by adjusting to their social platform(which is just as defeating and cowardly as being a victim). They work by the same principle as prison rapist's, they instinctually pick out the weakest target, the most deviating, with the lowest social standing,and continously harass them for no good reason, save for that their own leisure. They are like alpha predator's, or silverback gorillas, tyrant's of the schoolyard, they toy with people phyiscally typically because of their own powerlessness in other context's.

    So the only way to stop them bullying you is to challenge the rules of bullying they have set up and beat them to the ground, hard, inorder to make them understand that you are no second rate consumer in the jungle. Once that happens, they will fear you, or respect you, with physical ascertaining of you're power over them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelGadaafi View Post
    Dealing with bullies is fairly simple. You either deal with them by violence, social interaction or you avoid their zones completely. You can either befriend them, beat them or avoid them completely.
    Generally, yes, I agree. Although the complete avoidance part is rarely "simple". Being tormented by bullies is usually a problem of not being able to avoid them-- it's the kid in your neighborhood or at school, as an adult it's your co-worker or fellow prison inmate. It's the inability to avoid the bully that's the biggest problem. There are few options for this-- for the first two, you'd have to get your parents to change neighborhoods, schools or have you home-schooled, for the last two get another job or get placed in seg for the rest of your bid. None of those options are appealing, easy, nor even necessarily possible depending on the circumstances.

    I only read this link. Some of the stuff hits the nail on the head, like this (bold mine):

    Victims of bullying typically do not retaliate
    Children have it drummed into them from the moment they are born that they must not hit, punch, kick, bite, scratch, pull, push, poke or use any form of physical violence. Children are often punished - sometimes brutally and humiliatingly - for exhibiting any form of violent behaviour. Some adults then criticise children for not using violence when faced with a thug. Child targets of bullying also know (better than adults) that if they retaliate physically, the bully will feign victimhood (often with a convincing flood of tears) and the responsible adults will be fooled into believing that the target is the bully and the bully is the target. The (real) target is then punished by the adults whilst the bully looks on, enjoying every moment
    But many other parts only further perpetuate myths, like this:

    Bullies are tough people
    Bullies are weak, cowardly and inadequate people who cannot interact in a mature professional manner and have to resort to psychological violence (and, with child bullies, physical violence) to get their way. Only weak people need to bully.
    Bullshit. The "coward" myth is common for bullies and wifebeaters, but it's rarely true. Are some bullies cowards? Sure. Do most bullies pick on weaker people? Of course, that's what predators do.

    But that a predator chooses easier prey does not mean they are weak or cowardly. Bullies often will go toe-to-toe with someone their own size, sometimes even bigger, stronger people. I've seen it happen with my own two eyes on plenty of occasions. Sure, some will puss out, but many more won't.

    John Gotti got his start as a schoolyard bully, and he may have been many negative things, but "coward" was certainly not one of them. And if wifebeaters were all so cowardly then why are domestic disturbance calls routinely the most common source of police officer deaths? Because those wifebeaters, for the most part, aren't beating their wives simply because their wife/gf is weaker, but because they're generally violent, dangerous, nasty fucks.

    Also don't forget that at least some of these bullies are psychopaths, and while psychopaths may be considered "cowardly" or "weak" only in the sense that they will do absolutely anything to advance their immediate self-interest, they do not exhibit fear like normal people, and in many respects could be considered "fearless".

    In our culture, where we pride ourselves on strength, bravery, toughness and machismo, we like to take comfort in the thought that deep down all violent, morally-objectionable people like bullies (and terrorists and murderers for that matter) are really cowards, but it's rarely true. Some bullies really are tough and brave, that doesn't make them any less pieces of shit.

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    I say that a school for bullying kids be created and populated solely by the asshole kids who bully. If, in a regular school, a kid has gotten 5 complaints from different people at different times during a year, then that kid is transferred to the ‘Bully School’ that is run a little bit like a military school (but also has some anger management classes).
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    Actually, what has been done to stop or prevent bullying besides laughable TV ads?
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