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    Quote Originally Posted by equanimity View Post
    Yeah true, you do make a point.

    Then again, I was thinking about Economics.. having a bachelors in Economics or a bachelors in accounting, either way.. I can still become an accountant. I did mention that to them but they didn't have any of that. They told me if I were to get into Economics, It won't cover accounting-related stuff and etc etc I won't be able to get a PR if I didn't get into Accounting instead. I found their explanation really flawed... because if jobs like accountants were lacking.. what has this got to do with what bachelors I got?

    Is it really true that If I get a bachelors in economics, I would have low chances in becoming an accountant?
    How does it actually work?


    (If I EVER have no way out and have to be in accounting, I would wish that the next 5 years of my life to not be so dreadful.. at the very least i would be able to enjoy school for a bit.)

    Yeah... accounting doesn't really sound appealing to me. Although among all of them, financial analyst seems alright..

    Nah... I doubt I'll be getting into law. Even though I don't give two hoots about defending a fiend or I lack empathy (So they say..) .... I don't think I could live with people harassing me about breaking up their family etc etc and all that lame drama. Though of course I do know there are more fields in Law, but then again.. I don't really have an interest in law.
    I don't want to be an accountant... Yeah that's what my aunt told me too.
    Tax acc. and $$$$$. Which she does make a point, but then again.. would I actually enjoy it? I have to slave my ass off for 5 years or even more so in boring repetitive work, working with people who will probably never get me or appreciate me (when do people ever?) ... and finally the inevitable - i would just one day quit.
    I can't speak for other countries, but in the US, if you want to be an accountant, the best way to go is to get a degree in accounting, which involves a number of very rigorous courses, then you take the certified public accountant exam and hopefully pass it (very tough exam), and you go to work for a big 4 firm. You quit after five to ten years and get a controller or other senior accounting position at a corporation or you stay at the big 4 firm and and progress to partner - doing audit work or tax work. Contrary to the opinions of others, auditing does not have to be boring, but you do need to like it.

    I don't think you want to do this though.

    You'll probably enjoy economics or finance more. Again, I can only speak for the US, but to get an economics degree and expect to get into accounting - unlikely unless you pursue it in a masters program. There is a lot of stuff to know in order to get certified and it requires a great deal of studying. Once you start working, this is hard to do.

    There are a number of different types of lawyers. I would suggest that you investigate it a little more. Most of them are not in court trying cases. I recall reading a book a number of years ago - "so you want to be a lawyer" or something like that. It explains all the different types and what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander29 View Post
    You'll probably enjoy economics or finance more. Again, I can only speak for the US, but to get an economics degree and expect to get into accounting - unlikely unless you pursue it in a masters program. There is a lot of stuff to know in order to get certified and it requires a great deal of studying. Once you start working, this is hard to do.
    Accounting is so simple that you can easily study by yourself. It's a huge quantity of material, yes, but technically very simple.
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    You can still do an economics degree and then do a professional accounting qualification and go into an accounting field. There are people who do degrees in physics, biology, art etc. then go on to do a acc. professional qualification and land themselves lucrative jobs afterward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Accounting is so simple that you can easily study by yourself. It's a huge quantity of material, yes, but technically very simple.
    I guess simple is all relative. I personally did not find the exam to be simple and when I took it, most people did not pass. If you don't pass it, it significantly impacts your career prospects.

    Have you studied this? That is, are you speaking from experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander29 View Post
    I guess simple is all relative. I personally did not find the exam to be simple and when I took it, most people did not pass. If you don't pass it, it significantly impacts your career prospects.

    Have you studied this? That is, are you speaking from experience?
    Yeah...I studied accounting in high school for 5 years, I have a bachelor in eco - had to take 5 accounting classes - and im getting a masters in math finance. I think accounting is by far the easiest thing among all the economics-related stuff. Of course remembering all the details can be difficult, but it's a matter of brute-force memorization rather than understanding of complex concepts
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Yeah...I studied accounting in high school for 5 years, I have a bachelor in eco - had to take 5 accounting classes - and im getting a masters in math finance. I think accounting is by far the easiest thing among all the economics-related stuff. Of course remembering all the details can be difficult, but it's a matter of brute-force memorization rather than understanding of complex concepts
    Interesting. You can't take accounting for five years in high school in the US -they don't have that much of a selection. Most of it at that level is like learning book keeping. In college, I thought economics and finance were much easier than accounting - but then I only took a few of those classes. The college I went to had one of the best accounting programs in the country, so perhaps they were more rigorous than the econ or finance classes at that particular school.

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    It gets better with the more experience you get, more complicated stuff.

    I routinely turn my brain off and go into robot mode just to be caught sleeping. You deal with alot of dumbasses also.

    You can find niches within accounting that might be interesting. I studied finance in college, might be a good alternative.

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    Oh well.... thanks for all the replies anyway guys.
    I think I'll just be keeping my options open for now.. economics or accounting... my plan now is to continue studying hard and get a scholarship for economics.. maybe then will my family ever take me seriously, if I show them - with the results of course, that I really am serious about my life.

    If I don't succeed and have to get into accounting, oh well I'll give it a try. Maybe avolkiteshavara's right, I might find my niche in accounting.

    If not?

    At the very least if I end up miserable.. I can just go FUCK THIS!!! =D and probably end up smoking weed and doing all the other badass things badass kids my age do. Nah. I'll just go back to school.. after working my ass off.
    Even though success is my top priority... I don't always succeed.. but I like to think I try.

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    I'm taking time off to take accounting and get my accounting designation, at the advice of my career coach (i-bank partner).

    Right now, I have my degree in economics, but I did so without taking a single accounting class and I suppose I regret it. Instead of accounting, I studied more logic and mathematics and science. I started with a biochem major and so many of my credits transferred from the science program when I switched to econ.

    Accounting is a good field that often has easy 40 hour workweeks (half that in i-banking). The province for which I live, the average salary is 186,000 a year, so it's decent pay. Accounting also has a lot of great opportunities for ambitious people. Most i-bankers I personally know started out as accountants. Most CFOs and even many CEOs start out as accountants. It's a good, solid field to break into. A lot of exit opportunities if you have pie-in-the-sky dreams and the right stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaunward View Post
    I'm taking time off to take accounting and get my accounting designation, at the advice of my career coach (i-bank partner).

    Right now, I have my degree in economics, but I did so without taking a single accounting class and I suppose I regret it. Instead of accounting, I studied more logic and mathematics and science. I started with a biochem major and so many of my credits transferred from the science program when I switched to econ.

    Accounting is a good field that often has easy 40 hour workweeks (half that in i-banking). The province for which I live, the average salary is 186,000 a year, so it's decent pay. Accounting also has a lot of great opportunities for ambitious people. Most i-bankers I personally know started out as accountants. Most CFOs and even many CEOs start out as accountants. It's a good, solid field to break into. A lot of exit opportunities if you have pie-in-the-sky dreams and the right stuff.
    I'll tell you something: on standardized entrance-tests, accounting majors are those that score the lowest on average (physics majors being those that score the highest). I think accounting is a potentially profitable venue and that learning accounting is truly useful, however I think that college should be dedicated to truly learn something complex and potentially long-lasting, with wide applications (so, math & logic & science), rather than such a detail-oriented and (in my opinion) mind-killer subject.

    Somewhat hypocritically tho, I actually have taken a lot of accounting classes and I know quite a lot about it. That's why I hate it so much
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