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    Quote Originally Posted by kelric View Post
    I know that I (and others) sort of said this before, but there's really nothing you can do here but work hard and learn as much as you can - both about the subjects you're studying and about how to work with people who you may not get along with easily.

    Something else... you say that the people who work the hardest (are you sure?) get the results of below average students. Consider that the average grade being a 6 in his courses rather than an 8 with other professors doesn't necessarily mean anything. It doesn't mean that you're not learning as much as if you'd gotten an 8, and it doesn't mean that the professor doesn't respect the work you're doing. He's simply grading on a different scale, setting expectations high enough to really gauge how well you're learning. Take a typical grading scale, where 70% is a C, 80% is a B, etc. Most, if not all students are going to fall within that 30% of the grade scale. That, if anything, prevents a wide-ranging evaluation, decreasing the resolution at which your performance can be evaluated. I've had courses where a 60% was an A - it's humbling, to be sure, when you're used to higher percentage scores - but you can still learn as much (if not more). I know that it's easier said than done when you're the student, but try and focus on learning, and not on the grade you think you'll get. Grades really *do* come, if you focus on the learning.
    The grading standards of the college is all equal which mean that if I produce equally good work to someone with a different teacher. That person gets a 9/10 and I get a 5/10. That person will then get a higher grade in the course and a higher GPA than me because of this.
    The average mark for a student is 7/10 in any subject with any teacher. Not this one. This guy never gave over a 6/10. The top students of the class were really annoyed that their grades were between 3-6/10. Absolutely nothing above a 6. I find it preposterous considering the high imput of effort and quality these students put in.

    Now I'm not saying that this guy *isn't* just a jerk. He might be. But he might also be a new guy trying his best. Either way, you need to do the best you can with the situation. Work hard. When it's time for course evaluations, be honest (but not dramatic).
    He is not normal... I want to show you him so that when you seem him you'd say, "oh..."

    You mentioned that you've tried talking to him. I would suggest trying that again - but do it on his terms. Go during his office hours (or make an appointment - or both). Talk to him one-on-one. *DON'T* focus on how you don't like him. *DO* focus on asking how you can improve yourself and your understanding of the material. *DON'T* "blame" him for the fact that your scores aren't what you expected. *DO* emphasize to yourself, the whole time you're there, on how important it is to treat him as someone you respect and have a lot to learn from. Be mature, even if you don't want to (we all have those moments ). Do not, whatever you do, respond petulantly to *anything* he says. Don't make excuses. It's probably best if you don't mention grades at all - "how could I have done better / what did I omit" is okay. "What does it take to get an A" is horrible.

    You may already have done this - but your goal here is to learn as much as you can from him and complete his courses so that you can move on in your curriculum. There's nothing to "win" in a conflict with him. Keep that in mind.

    Anyway, that's what I think.
    Nothing gets through his head. I said that it was like talking to a brick wall. I'm not exaggerating here. He just can't accept that he's wrong in absolutely anything. I will try and talk to him about improving myself but knowing him, he'll say a quick line and leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    I'm dropping one of my subjects with him but I still have two more You are really lucky to only experience the teacher in one subject.
    She experienced me after that!

    So you can get an ENTP or ISTP to do an covert op during the teacher's assistant's office hours. Get another to distract the assistant by asking to show where some professor's office is across the building. Then go in and get a printout. If somebody comes in it could be said one is waiting on the assistant.

    A quick look at and printout of their internet browse history ought to reveal if any surreptitious porning has been going on. Take a snapshot of the computer and desk better yet. One shot for closeup too should do. Quick, and that way it's undeniable who's computer it is.

    Fired Prof Chased Coeds | Drudge Retort

    Then you got your stuff you need to anonymously drop that deuce into the dean, tenure review commitee, and school pres.'s mail, as well as the school and city newspapers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar7 View Post
    She experienced me after that!

    So you can get an ENTP or ISTP to do an covert op during their teacher's assistant's office hours. Get another to distract the assistant by asking to show where some professor's office is across the building. Then go in and get a printout.

    A quick look at and printout of their internet browse history ought to reveal if any surreptitious porning has been going on. Take a snapshot of the computer better yet. That way it's undeniable who's computer it is.

    Fired Prof Chased Coeds | Drudge Retort

    Then you got your stuff you need to anonymously drop that deuce into the dean, tenure review commitee, and school pres.'s mail, as well as the school and city newspapers.
    Haha! Beautiful idea. Unfortunately, he has his office in a room that is usually locked when he's not there. There are also other professors that lurk about in the area of his office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    Haha! Beautiful idea. Unfortunately, he has his office in a room that is usually locked when he's not there. There are also other professors that lurk about in the area of his office.
    Uhh..A window-washing crew snapshot of his computer screen?
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    'Men are meant to be with women. The rest is perversion and mental illness.'

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    drop a few hits of acid in his coffee, he'll have a wacky episode, and it might get him fired. problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    Yes. My whole class are all pretty much cocky students that think they are Leonardo Da Vinci.

    I said before I have had many teachers I haven't 'clicked' with. I wish you all wouldn't judge so quickly if you've never seen him. It irritates me.
    I guess that it is in your natures to oppose anything anyone says.
    It is entirely possible he is a nightmare. There are professors who cross the line. The problem is that when you state a willingness to use dishonest means to get him fired, you lost your credibility to an outside observer. No one here has seen him in action. No one here has seen you in action except for your enraged comments. This might not fairly represent your position or situation. It is important to realize for future reference that maintaining your own credibility in a conflict is of supreme importance if you are seeking to convince others of your position.
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    So I guess it means there is trouble until the robins come
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    Nothing gets through his head. I said that it was like talking to a brick wall. I'm not exaggerating here. He just can't accept that he's wrong in absolutely anything. I will try and talk to him about improving myself but knowing him, he'll say a quick line and leave.
    Well, if you're right, and he really does react that way (and I know that there are people who do) there's probably not much you can do. Just do your best and move on. There may not be a perfect answer - but keep your goals in mind (getting an education), and avoid turning it into a power struggle. In this situation, it's one that you can't win, and it'll just sap your energy. In any event, you're only going to have to deal with this guy for a couple more months. After that, be honest on your course evaluation, and move on.

    And yeah, what Toonia said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar7 View Post
    Uhh..A window-washing crew snapshot of his computer screen?
    Quote Originally Posted by kafkacat View Post
    drop a few hits of acid in his coffee, he'll have a wacky episode, and it might get him fired. problem solved.
    lol. No bounds to your ideas hmm?

    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    It is entirely possible he is a nightmare. There are professors who cross the line. The problem is that when you state a willingness to use dishonest means to get him fired, you lost your credibility to an outside observer. No one here has seen him in action. No one here has seen you in action except for your enraged comments. This might not fairly represent your position or situation. It is important to realize for future reference that maintaining your own credibility in a conflict is of supreme importance if you are seeking to convince others of your position.
    That was my sense of humour. Bad, isn't it. I'm not ACTUALLY going to frame him or do what I said. I'm a bit more human than that. I personally would just like the dean to see how much we're suffering because of him and to do something about it.
    My comments were not supposed to be seen as enraged. Although I do realise how many of the people here see it that way. They were just arguments to people who argued to me. I guess I saw these other people's comments as enraged too. Apologies for how you perceived my comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelric View Post
    Well, if you're right, and he really does react that way (and I know that there are people who do) there's probably not much you can do. Just do your best and move on. There may not be a perfect answer - but keep your goals in mind (getting an education), and avoid turning it into a power struggle. In this situation, it's one that you can't win, and it'll just sap your energy. In any event, you're only going to have to deal with this guy for a couple more months. After that, be honest on your course evaluation, and move on.
    I understand. I'm not the type of person to 'give in' though. It's not easy for me to see my grades and gpa pummeling down and my option chances for two possible careers be lowered.

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    I see your point. My antenna are feet-long for crap like this that happens way too much in academia where it's the most political of all places one could work.

    Academia-a place where right is wrong and wrong is 'right'-Shows how political it is for receiving a good education for your dollars to prevail. Terrible.

    This is all believed combining intuition considering what you described.

    You wouldn't have the motivation to make up all this. I mean, it's pointless. Typing details like this on a typology website if it weren't real? Experiencing the slurry of unwanted emotions that this has caused you in getting ripped-off from a bad professor! What would you get out of it? Nothing.
    "..And the eight and final rule: If this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight."
    'Men are meant to be with women. The rest is perversion and mental illness.'

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