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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    Yes. My whole class are all pretty much cocky students that think they are Leonardo Da Vinci.

    I said before I have had many teachers I haven't 'clicked' with. I wish you all wouldn't judge so quickly if you've never seen him. It irritates me.
    I guess that it is in your natures to oppose anything anyone says.
    What is that? Is that a cocky, tertiary Fi supported by terrible use of Te I sense? You, sir, have already lost the argument.

    Especially since you've just straight-up blown off all the good advice your seniors have given you. They've been there and done that.

    Intelligence =/= wisdom. You lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    Take the energy you are spending on this campaign to ruin someone's life and put it toward your studies.
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    Suck it up this time and try to do your best. Then never take a class from him again. That's really the best you can do.
    Face it - you're not getting him fired (and frankly, you shouldn't even be trying to). The only reasons I can see for a university professor getting fired in the middle of a semester are a) being convicted of a violent felony and b) blatant sexual harassment / fraternizing with students. "Students don't like him" isn't even a consideration in that context. You're stuck with him for the rest of the term, so take Elaur and Laser's (among others) advice. Suck it up, work hard to get through the term, and then don't take classes from him again. That's your best outcome here, seriously.

    First-time teachers, especially University professors, can be a weird breed - and understand that it's at least possible that he doesn't *want* to be teaching (as opposed to doing research, publishing, etc.). It's entirely possible that he was forced into teaching and would like nothing better than to dump the teaching off on someone else (I've seen this happen before). On a less pessimistic note, new University professors, unlike high school teachers, generally don't have much experience or knowledge about *how to actually teach*. He's spent his time learning and practicing his area of expertise - not how to teach you. That he has to learn on the job - and if there are a few groups of unfortunate guinea pigs (that's you) who have to suffer through his learning curve, so be it. It's possible that he's struggling with many things that those who have taught you before already knew by the time you came around. Not saying that you need to give him a huge break here, but at least consider it. Especially since there's nothing else you can do but quit or work your butt off to put his classes behind you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    No. He is not normal. I've never seen anyone like him before and it will be unlikely someone like him would be my boss.
    Don't count on that . At least consider that this may be a learning experience that will serve you in the future.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    I love how people are reading the OP and not anything else, the questions being asked have otherwise been covered in his posts or have been asked before.

    Anyways, here are some things that I thought of on this subject while making my coffee today...

    1. Ask why you made the grades that you made. You mentioned that he asks for one thing and grades based on another. Record what he asked of you in some way, if he wrote it down then take a picture of the thing written down, if he said it via word then record it with a tape recorder. Then, if he grades you based on anything else, record that in the same fashion. As a student, you have every right to understand, keyword understand, why you made the grade that you did. Present your recollection (memorize what he assigned verbatim, DO NOT TELL HIM YOU HAVE TANGIBLE EVIDENCE) of what the assignment was. If he says otherwise, have the tape recorder on to get this evidence. I did a price conversion (taking from the price of a tape recorder in America) and a tape recorder over there would cost ~15 European Dollars. If you don't want to pay for it, get some students to put in one Euro or a fraction of one to go towards your paying for it, since this would be to benefit the class. I'm assuming that you or a friend has a camera that you can use. If not, get one from a classmate, they will definitely understand your motive.

    After doing this if he doesn't comply (I'm assuming you already have, but I was just throwing that out there), go to the dean and present your evidence. I would only do it after you had a good amount of evidence, one assignment wouldn't be enough.
    The professor gives a sheet of steps that we have to do for the next assignment. I swear when we did the assignment exactly as the sheet told us the teacher told us we were wrong and that it should be 'something else'. We showed him the sheet he himself provided to us. And he still insisted that it was wrong without any explanation why. We were like "WTF? It says it right here on the sheet you provided." He said "no, it's still wrong. sorry, you'll lose half your grade" No matter what we explain he is close-minded about it. Very very Stubborn.

    2. Complain to your OTHER teachers. You mentioned getting close to your teachers to get better grades etc, so in a discussion talk about this teacher. If you haven't already talked about your other classes, just mention something that would make them curious about what other classes you have. "Oh this is just like what happened in another class of mine! How interesting." etc. Then they will ask you about what classes that you have, and from there you can explain what classes you have and that will lead to your tangent (that you have planned in your head) about this teacher. Do this with every professor, and get EVERY student of his to do it to their other professors. Another good thing would be to team up with one or more of your classmates against this professor when you are going on this tangent. A crowd has a more profound effect on a person.

    A terrible teacher like this doesn't deserve the job. If I were a professor I'd honestly feel pressure, because these student's futures are in my hands. He is just being destructive, and is a bad person for doing that (in my opinion). I don't care if a professor has a stressful life outside of school, what he's doing is pretty much unacceptable. He could at least explain that he has a hard life outside of this if he actually does. He could make changes and provide extra credit, he could actually grade things how he said he would. But no is evidence of that has been presented, and it just seems like people are just trying to make you stop via guilt tripping lol. He is fucking up your future and hundreds of other people your age's futures, and you don't need to back down.
    Haven't thought of this. Yes, other teachers respect me quite a bit. It would be good if I talked to them about it. The thing though is that it would take a while and I doubt many of the other professors would do anything.

    If NONE of this does anything, avoid him at all costs and tell everybody to never get a class with him. If your college has a web forum, post that anonymously if you can and give a warning. Give all of this evidence, and tell people to never take his classes because it will bring their GPA down.
    I unfortunately don't have a college web forum.

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    I would still use the tape recorder to record him saying that it's wrong. That's your best bet. As I said, EVERY student as a right to know why they made the grade that they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelric View Post
    Face it - you're not getting him fired (and frankly, you shouldn't even be trying to). The only reasons I can see for a university professor getting fired in the middle of a semester are a) being convicted of a violent felony and b) blatant sexual harassment / fraternizing with students. "Students don't like him" isn't even a consideration in that context. You're stuck with him for the rest of the term, so take Elaur and Laser's (among others) advice. Suck it up, work hard to get through the term, and then don't take classes from him again. That's your best outcome here, seriously.

    First-time teachers, especially University professors, can be a weird breed - and understand that it's at least possible that he doesn't *want* to be teaching (as opposed to doing research, publishing, etc.). It's entirely possible that he was forced into teaching and would like nothing better than to dump the teaching off on someone else (I've seen this happen before). On a less pessimistic note, new University professors, unlike high school teachers, generally don't have much experience or knowledge about *how to actually teach*. He's spent his time learning and practicing his area of expertise - not how to teach you. That he has to learn on the job - and if there are a few groups of unfortunate guinea pigs (that's you) who have to suffer through his learning curve, so be it. It's possible that he's struggling with many things that those who have taught you before already knew by the time you came around. Not saying that you need to give him a huge break here, but at least consider it. Especially since there's nothing else you can do but quit or work your butt off to put his classes behind you.
    You are right. I certainly am an unfortunate guinea pig. Perhaps most unfortunate as I'm the only one who has him in three subjects. It's not very motivating that I have to see him four times a week until the holidays. I'm very much suffering in his courses and the last week I've stayed up all night for 3 nights in the week.

    Don't count on that . At least consider that this may be a learning experience that will serve you in the future.
    That's the only thing that keeps me motivated in his class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    I would still use the tape recorder to record him saying that it's wrong. That's your best bet. As I said, EVERY student as a right to know why they made the grade that they did.
    I'll do it. (using my mobile)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    I love how people are reading the OP and not anything else, the questions being asked have otherwise been covered in his posts or have been asked before.
    The OP constructed a terribly weak argument, failing to provide their audience with the proper premises to draw the same conclusion. I read the first few responses from the OP and they again failed to narrate any story convincing their audience of their position. What else can you expect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    The OP constructed a terribly weak argument, failing to provide their audience with the proper premises to draw the same conclusion. I read the first few responses from the OP and they again failed to narrate any story convincing their audience of their position. What else can you expect?
    I'm not into writing details. I expected people to take my word for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    The OP constructed a terribly weak argument, failing to provide their audience with the proper premises to draw the same conclusion. I read the first few responses from the OP and they again failed to narrate any story convincing their audience of their position. What else can you expect?
    It seemed like to me that people were reading way too much into it, and they weren't actually responding and giving Ragingkatsuki what he was asking for in his OP. It seemed obvious to me, a teacher is giving bad grades and lying about his instructions, all of his class is doing badly, teacher refuses to listen to his students... yeah. That's all that there was to it. Just because he will encounter insane people like that in his future doesn't mean he shouldn't act on it. He's learning from it (as I read in the other posts and as common sense tells me) AND trying to make things right. I sure as hell would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingkatsuki View Post
    I'm not into writing details. I expected people to take my word for it.
    That's severely problematic given the objective of your thread.

    Ethos.

    One should always take care to establish and maintain one's ethos, especially when attempting to disestablish another's ethos. Failing to do so is tantamount to spitting on the established conventions of logic, or, just plain stupid.
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