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    I've been considering trying to get a computing job of some kind.

    I have a lot of basic experience with computers, and I can do stuff like use Office well enough to get things done, type at just under 38 wpm, solve most Windows problems, resolve network issues, configure/administer Unix-like systems, and know some very rudimentary C++, HTML, and BASIC.

    Basically, Iím a jack of several trades, and a master of none. Iím looking to get a job related to computers, but I donít look very attractive to employers because officially, the only thing Iíve got is a High School diploma. No references, no experience, no certifications, etc.

    I've heard that there are types of certifications and training that I can get which increase my chances of finding a job in computing. I guess my question is, which jobs in computing are in demand, and which certifications/training would make me look more attractive to those potential employers?

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    "Computing" is a bit broad. Right now I do accounting/network administration, which basically consists of everything from filing, data entry, balancing, installing and maintaining a network, making sure everything works, creating reports for buyers, etc. In this manner, my "jack-of-all-trades" qualities really help.

    I think your best bet would simply be data entry of some kind, especially considering your credentials. It's a bit dull, but it's easy and you can flesh out your responsibilities as your employer can see you are multifaceted in what you can do.



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    I know being a network systems analyst is suppose to be one the fastest growing tech jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    No references, no experience, no certifications, etc.
    Ever think about being a self-employed webmaster or web developer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post


    Ever think about being a self-employed webmaster or web developer?
    This is a very good idea.

    Come up with some site designs, shop them around, etc.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I know being a network systems analyst is suppose to be one the fastest growing tech jobs.
    Hmm... I could probably do that, I guess.


    Ever think about being a self-employed webmaster or web developer?
    Yes, certainly. I've even managed to read about people who've done such things, made money online, etc... what's frustrating is that I can tell most of them are INTJs and ENTPs, and maybe a few ENxJs.

    Basically, people who seem to think exactly or quite similarly to the way I do, except for one thing: they know exactly what they want, and they're determined enough to keep trying things, taking risks, failing, and trying again. They're not security-oriented, they're opportunistic.

    This is probably why I struggle so much. I don't have the typical community-oriented, connected, loyal manner of most security-oriented people, I have the project-focused nature of more opportunistic people. But without the ambitiousness/fire, willingness to take risks, and the determination to persist. A very, very bad combination of traits.

    Other problem is that I don't seem to be good at coming up with the kind of ideas that people like, though I have the same sense of the potential of things that they do once I see something.

    Sometimes it feels like being an entrepreneur trapped in an office worker or servant's frame of mind. Or something like that. Intuitive types should never have to be stuck in an IxFJ mentality. We just shouldn't. There's a good reason why INFJs are 1% of the population... putting an N into that mindframe is extremely wasteful in terms of potential and opportunity under most circumstances. No, it's probably just me.

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    Do you want to do software development, security, network admin, or something else? Your perspective sounds like you would find network admin/security more of a fit. It sounds like maybe you should start trying to apply for support or help desk jobs to get some experience.

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    If you have the ambition to go the entrepreneur route, don't let your weaknesses hold you back. Everyone has them. The specifics don't matter, only that you develop a way to overcome them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAVO View Post
    Do you want to do software development, security, network admin, or something else? Your perspective sounds like you would find network admin/security more of a fit. It sounds like maybe you should start trying to apply for support or help desk jobs to get some experience.
    Network Admin sounds interesting, but it looks WAY too hard to get that job. It's not one of those you can just get a certification for, according that book that tells me what they offered at the community college. They offer some training without a certification, but nothing I could show an employer to make myself look more qualified.

    Support/Help desk jobs? I guess I could do that, my family members usually call me asking how to resolve computer problems. It would be nice to finally get paid for it.

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    If you have the ambition to go the entrepreneur route, don't let your weaknesses hold you back. Everyone has them. The specifics don't matter, only that you develop a way to overcome them.
    Hmm... well, I don't really have the ambition, I just listened to someone else talk about it. It's just so frustrating that I have no ambition, because I'm confident that if I did, I could make it work. I always manage to see where other people who have ambition went wrong, what they could have done to make it work. If I could only apply that ability that to myself... ah, well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    Yes, certainly. I've even managed to read about people who've done such things, made money online, etc... what's frustrating is that I can tell most of them are INTJs and ENTPs, and maybe a few ENxJs.

    Basically, people who seem to think exactly or quite similarly to the way I do, except for one thing: they know exactly what they want, and they're determined enough to keep trying things, taking risks, failing, and trying again. They're not security-oriented, they're opportunistic.

    This is probably why I struggle so much. I don't have the typical community-oriented, connected, loyal manner of most security-oriented people, I have the project-focused nature of more opportunistic people. But without the ambitiousness/fire, willingness to take risks, and the determination to persist. A very, very bad combination of traits.

    Other problem is that I don't seem to be good at coming up with the kind of ideas that people like, though I have the same sense of the potential of things that they do once I see something.

    Sometimes it feels like being an entrepreneur trapped in an office worker or servant's frame of mind. Or something like that.
    I've been around the major webmaster forums and communities for a while, and there are some complete idiots and even 15 year old kids who are successful at it. And most people there don't come up with original ideas, but they jump on whatever the newest method or niche is. It's mostly about having the right information.

    If you're interested, the Digital Point forums and the SitePoint forums are good places to go if you want to learn about this stuff. I think any introverted intuitive can get into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    Network Admin sounds interesting, but it looks WAY too hard to get that job. It's not one of those you can just get a certification for, according that book that tells me what they offered at the community college.
    I'm a developer, so I'm not all that familiar with the network admin career path. I work with them some. I'd go with the Windows one first, since that's the most common environment. Linux would be nice, but with fewer opportunities.

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en...tion/mcsa.aspx

    Many large corporations and institutions have support analysts which take care of the numerous network admin tasks. It would be a good way to start--not being responsible for everything, and having others to ask for help.

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    I think you can learn stuff on network admin on your own, but it's certainly easier taking a cert course at a community college seeing as they outline everything you need to you in the courses they offer. My brother is entering into a network admin program this year, although he's taking a computational math course over the summer just to get it out of the way. It's suppose to be a good field to get into though... relative stable as long as there are large companies around, they'll need system support.

    Oh and go windows... linux, less people use linux.
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