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    I remember, in the first few years I was terribly studious and hard-working, I've done as much homework as I could, I've got the best grades possible, always scoring higher than 90%. As I grew older, I've started to notice what an utter crap our educational system is: highly unqualified teachers, boredom and stress in 35 hours a week. I refused to do my homework, and learned some really interesting stuff instead. Results: I still scored higher than my peers, and I had a lot of free time with less stress.

    So yeah, homework doesn't help at all ~ but this is far from the biggest problems concerning education imo.

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    I think some homework (math, physics, chemistry esp) are pretty useful; but not as a homework by itself, instead of simply a practice. One who studied long enough and listened and understood what the teacher had taught at school wouldn't need to do homeworks. Of course, the teacher themselves had to be good too for the students to understand.

    Unfortunately those type were also the ones who usually do homeworks diligently. The ones who don't are usually the ones who don't listen to the teacher either. >_>;

    Add that, and in my country, the students RARELY listened to the teachers, unless they act like an army instructor; aside from the top 10-15 sometimes, and even they slip out sometimes (a confession from one; prefers to sketch and draw and sleep and daydream, fortunately still able to understand)

    So I think it goes back to the students and the teachers and the education system themselves. >_>;

    Agreed on how assignment is better than homework, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cenomite View Post
    Math homework helps.

    That's about it I've found. Everything else has been borderline useless.
    Math helps you do math. Writing helps you do writing... The same goes for a lot of smaller things, like reading, critical analysis and so forth. Do more, get better. Course, there needs to be a feedback mechanism for a lot of them, but there it is. The only problem is that school doesn't really teach these things very well. Homework is just randomly assigned. It isn't progressive, adaptive or tailored for students. That makes it ineffective and... for all intents and purposes... useless.

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    I am strongly against mandatory homework. The only homework I've actually done in the past 3 years, is Math/science, on rare occasions when I feel I need the practice. (This is maybe 1-2 out of every 5 classes). I'm a junior in high school. I just got a 2070 on my first attempt at the SATs, and have a 3.5gpa. (out of 4.0). I literally refuse to do ANY homework outside of school besides what I said above. Result? I have better grades than most of my peers, do better on tests, have very little stress, and plenty of free time to do productive things. (Stage crew, robotics, working at my job, various things around my home).

    If you work during the class, you don't need the homework. By work during the class, I mean actually pay attention to what you're being taught. If the teacher's a moron/useless, I take out the book and teach myself the material during the class and ignore them.

    *Note - Assigned readings of material for a class are a different matter, as are long-term assignments.

    *Note 2 - I am still in favor of teachers making the practice work available to students.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Take Five View Post
    Like I said, to some extent the usefulness depends on the particular assignment. But having to get something done right and on time, no matter how dull or unstimulating, generates discipline. You have to take what is in education, not just the subject material, and try to make it apply to other aspects of life.
    It may generate discipline but that sort of discipline is not good for learning i think.
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    I do. Plus even if you "get" something without practice, doing the practice anyway helps you retain it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Take Five View Post
    I do. Plus even if you "get" something without practice, doing the practice anyway helps you retain it.
    Not for me, I can do a math problem or science formula once and never have to do it again. But whenever i need it i can still very easily do it, and i don't need to practice it to "retain it". I know you said that it helps but it dosen't make a difference for me.
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    I considered myself to be stupid because I'd get beaten in exams. However, I've since realised that the reason for this was that I didn't do any homework and instead chose to socialise etc. whereas those that were academically successful spent many an hour studying at home. It seems quite obvious when you think about it.

    Whether the homework needs to be set by the teacher or not is another matter. It is preferable that a student organises their own self-study, however this is probably only possible for older students. For example, I benefitted immensely during my undergraduate degree course from designing and implementing my own programming projects as well as completing the assignments that were set by lecturers. It gave me a deeper understanding and forced me to learn methods that were beyond the scope of the course.

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