# Thread: The wonderful world of an all-Female workplace

1. ^^ I know, I just don't get it. Each person should check their own attitude...

2. Originally Posted by simulatedworld
It just sucks for men is all!

P.S.,

Bolded word = typo, or cleverly subtle pun?
Well its, not all that bad. If you look at sending txt out for sex, a woman will have a higher rate of success, 70% you say.

But lets say the man only have 1% success rate ie 99% failure rate. Lets assume the women choices were independent.
Let n represent the number of women asked. And p be the probability that atleast one says yes.
Then p = 1 - (99/100)^n

Txt 200 women you have a 86% probability of one of them saying yes.
Txt 1000 women you have a 99.9% probability of one them saying yes.

It's more of a number's game than anything else, I am pretty sure the success rate is higher than 1%.
Given that 3% of women are sex addicts:

Plus those girls that actually like you.

3. Originally Posted by chegra
Well its, not all that bad. If you look at sending txt out for sex, a woman will have a higher rate of success, 70% you say.

But lets say the man only have 1% success rate ie 99% failure rate. Lets assume the women choices were independent.
Let n represent the number of women asked. And p be the probability that atleast one says yes.
Then p = 1 - (99/100)^n

Txt 200 women you have a 86% probability of one of them saying yes.
Txt 1000 women you have a 99.9% probability of one them saying yes.

It's more of a number's game than anything else, I am pretty sure the success rate is higher than 1%.
Given that 3% of women are sex addicts:

Plus those girls that actually like you.
lies, damn lies, and statistics.

4. Originally Posted by Babylon Candle
lies, damn lies, and statistics.
lol,

I should try it out when I got time.

5. Originally Posted by Peguy
Yeah. I can SO relate. I HATE working with women.

6. Originally Posted by jenocyde
In an all female dominated environment, I wanted to chew on poison pills. The endless stopping by for a "chat", the gossip, the cutting people down due to what they were wearing, the crying every time I got just a little too direct... The worst was when someone got engaged. The endless rambling for months and months and months about tulle vs taffeta. More often than not, it was catty and bitchy with no strategic reason. I love my sisters, but damn, this is a work environment.

I feel like a traitor.
Well, this was also my experience when the workplace was dominated with women, the thing I hated the most was being held as having a bad attitude when I wanted to keep to myself and not engage in all the tedious and at times meanspirited small talk. They weren't upset with me being too direct, they were on me all the time about "smile! What's the matter, are you depressed?" It gets really, really old after a while.

On the other hand my husband works in a predominately male environment and from what he and his close friends tell me, the men act just as bad as women when they are grouped together like that, including fashion police.

7. Sun Tzu’s book The Art of War, earned him an audience with the King of Wu, who said, “I have read your books, may i submit your theory of managing soldiers to a small test?”

Sun Tzu replied “Sir, you may.”

The King of Wu asked “Can the test be applied to women?”

Sun Tzu replied that it could, so arrangements were made to bring 180 beautiful women from the palace. Sun Tzu divided them into two troops with one of the King’s favourite concubines at the head of each. He the made all of them take spears in their hands and spoke to them: “I presume you know the difference between front and back, right and left?”

The women replied, “Yes. Of course”
Sun Tzu continued, “When to the sound of drums I order ‘eyes front,’ look straights ahead. When I order ‘left turn,’ face toward your left. When I order ‘right turn’, face toward your right. When I order turn around, face around to the back.
After the words of command had been explained, the women agreed they understood. He gave them spears so he could begin the drill. To the sound of drums, Sun Tzu ordered ‘right turn.’ In response the women burst out in laughter.

With great patience, Sun Tzu said, “If the instructions and words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, then the general is to blame.” He then repeated the explanations several times. This time he ordered the drums to signal ‘left turn,’ and again the women burst into laughter.

Then Sun Tzu said, “If the instructions and words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, the general is to blame. But if the commands are clear and the soldiers disobey, then it is the fault of the officers.” He immediately ordered the women who were at the head of the two troops to be beheaded.

Of course, the King was watching from a raised pavilion, and when he saw that his two favourite concubines were about to be executed, he was alarmed and swiftly sent down a message: “We are now quite satisfied as to the general’s ability to manage troops. Without these concubines, my food and drink will not taste good. It is the King’s wish that they not be beheaded.”

Sun Tzu replied, “Having received the sovereign’s commission to take charge and direct these troops, there are certain orders I cannot accept.” He immediately had the two concubines beheaded as an example and appointed the two next in line as the new leaders.

Now the drums were sounded and the drill began. The women performed all the maneuvers exactly as commanded. They drilled perfectly in precision and did not utter a single sound.

Sun Tzu sent a messenger to the King of Wu saying, “Your Majesty, the soldiers are now correctly drilled and perfectly disciplined. As sovereign, you may choose to require them to go through fire and water and they will not disobey.”

The King responded, “Our commander should cease the drill and return to his camp. We do not wish to come down and inspect the troops.”

With great calm, Sun Tzu said, “This King is only fond of words and cannot carry them into deeds.”

Commentary following this story indicates that the King relented, recognizing Sun Tzu’s ability and appointed him a general; and Sun Tzu won many battles.

8. The situation just reminded me of that story

9. worst. Sun Tzu.story. EVAR

10. Originally Posted by jenocyde
I've worked in male dominated fields quite frequently. However, I recently ended a career in a female dominated one. I've never worked in an area that has a balance.

I choose all-male hands down. Yes, problems exist with both situations, but I find the problems on the male side to be more tolerable. When I get dismissed or overlooked, I just push harder and be more aggressive. I don't know if I'm liked, but I'm definitely respected. It's annoying to be seen as a sum of body parts, though. I could be firing someone and he'd still be staring at my chest.

In an all female dominated environment, I wanted to chew on poison pills. The endless stopping by for a "chat", the gossip, the cutting people down due to what they were wearing, the crying every time I got just a little too direct... The worst was when someone got engaged. The endless rambling for months and months and months about tulle vs taffeta. More often than not, it was catty and bitchy with no strategic reason. I love my sisters, but damn, this is a work environment.

I feel like a traitor.
We don't have those issues here, but women on our side are a minority and it's a software dev facility so it's a more "masculine" environment anyway. While I am self-expressive, I've taken care to make sure my appearance -- while feminine -- still earns me credibility in this environment, and all of the women here seem to be more "professional" in nature than the sort of goofy, catty female environment being described by some in this thread. The other side is more of the "accountant types," with a majority of female employees, and they definitely lean more in the catty/socializing direction. I enjoy the connection I share with women, but only to an extent -- as long as it's "normal." I don't like the political/social drama. Men are definitely more straightforward and easier to deal with; you just focus on the task at hand, work to accomplish the goal, and don't let it get too personal or crazy. Simple, right?

I have a good friend in town who's one of just two males in a legal facility where everyone else is female, and the daily drama drives him crazy.

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