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    the best pattern recognition software\hardware mix ever (alot of them) to read the outputs and quantum ("classical or gravity) processing for the core unit.

    It's an old idea btw, scifi authors such as stanislas lew wrote about it. And we all thought about it at some point.

    But it'd take more time to find paterns than simply do the research.
    It's like setting a computer to go random and wait until it wrote the best book ever.
    Even without starting about the subjectivity of the thing and the sort of patern recognition ai we'd need to dev. it'd be easier to simply write the damn thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    the best pattern recognition software\hardware mix ever (alot of them) to read the outputs and quantum ("classical or gravity) processing for the core unit.

    It's an old idea btw, scifi authors such as stanislas lew wrote about it. And we all thought about it at some point.

    But it'd take more time to find paterns than simply do the research.
    It's like setting a computer to go random and wait until it wrote the best book ever.
    Even without starting about the subjectivity of the thing and the sort of patern recognition ai we'd need to dev. it'd be easier to simply write the damn thing.
    And it's useful if you wish to go data mining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    the best pattern recognition software\hardware mix ever (alot of them) to read the outputs and quantum ("classical or gravity) processing for the core unit.

    It's an old idea btw, scifi authors such as stanislas lew wrote about it. And we all thought about it at some point.

    But it'd take more time to find paterns than simply do the research.
    It's like setting a computer to go random and wait until it wrote the best book ever.
    Even without starting about the subjectivity of the thing and the sort of patern recognition ai we'd need to dev. it'd be easier to simply write the damn thing.
    At first it is easy to simply write the damn thing, but I think if we can solve it in constant time, it will present solutions that are non-linear.

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    And if you think about it, humans, are just an efficient searching algorithm for this search space.

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    seriously, where are you getting at.
    The problem in itself is stupid.
    If you could have the technology to make it doable in human scale time and don't start to play around with relativity too much (like leaving in a space ship and coming back a zillion years later like 'hey, it solved the problem in 10 seconds of ship time! (and please don't start about acceleration\deceleration)

    So the point is, that if you had that technology, you'd also be able to pretty much compute anything, inputing some basic information, adding not only patern recognition ias for the research, but also some goals and a set of rules+ a patern creation thing to create new data and connecting it to the existing data if needed.
    It'd be more efficient by a ridiculous amount of orders of magnitude.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
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    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
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    and you're trying so hard to look smart that it isn't even funny.
    Saying obvious things using excessively technical terms for no good reason is something idiots do.

    'm just saying
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    seriously, where are you getting at.
    The problem in itself is stupid.
    If you could have the technology to make it doable in human scale time and don't start to play around with relativity too much (like leaving in a space ship and coming back a zillion years later like 'hey, it solved the problem in 10 seconds of ship time! (and please don't start about acceleration\deceleration)

    So the point is, that if you had that technology, you'd also be able to pretty much compute anything, inputing some basic information, adding not only patern recognition ias for the research, but also some goals and a set of rules+ a patern creation thing to create new data and connecting it to the existing data if needed.
    It'd be more efficient by a ridiculous amount of orders of magnitude.
    Let me see you are saying the problem is stupid because if we could that means we could do it a better way?

    lol

    The point of the question is to elicit a solution that doesnt require advance solution.

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    See previous post
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
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    There is no such solution. You can't magicaly 'find the solution you give a meaning to' out of simple 'neutral' data. Maybe if you accept the idea of a god, but it's theoreticaly unsupported and a bit simplistic.

    Ultimately we just find logic to be 'logical' because it fits our internal neural paterns. And that logic is relevant and applicable to this universe because our brain gets constant feedbacks from said universe and has evolved as an body(brain included)\universe interface.

    You'd need to at least partially simulate a or a set of human brain(s) working at much higher processing speed to find the paterns ur interest by(so that was what the ai patern recognition things were about). But as I said previously, it's as energy and time efficient as blowing up the universe to open a can.
    Let me see you are saying the problem is stupid because if we could that means we could do it a better way?
    yes
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
    Mencius (Meng-Tse), 4th century BCE

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    and you're trying so hard to look smart that it isn't even funny.
    Saying obvious things using excessively technical terms for no good reason is something idiots do.

    'm just saying
    lol,
    Why the personal attacks?

    Generally, I dont like posting stuff about what i think because
    some how it gets into some kinda personal thing.

    Is it relevant if I am a idiot or not to this discussion?

    If you think the problem don't have any merit then simply don't comment.

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