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    Ok, basically I'm at a stage where I'm feeling like I have to flip a coin to pick between studying Biology or Psychology at University.

    On the one hand I have a definite interest in Biology, I like the idea of studying the complex system of life and exploring concepts such as evolutionary diversity, ecological influences etc. I also like the idea of having a job that contains both field observation and lab work, however I'm still don't completely know what this will entail exactly? (Any biologists out there?)

    On the other side of the coin so to speak is psychology. I've previously studied aspects of psychology at Uni and find it really stimulating. I find I'm not so concerned so much with the abnormal aspects of it, but rather like exploring how it applies in everyday life, and determines a person's personality. I've been told by people that I'm a bit of a natural at counseling type things, as I invariably attempt to read people and offer insights into how they may choose to respond to a problem. However despite this, I do invariably find the feelings aspect of such situations to be quite difficult, and as such don't think I'd be suitable to a counseling type profession. Any thoughts on INTP's as a counsellor?

    I've had thoughts that maybe I could attempt to combine the two disciplines in some way but I'm not exactly sure how that would work and whether it would be actually beneficial within a future career?

    Any thoughts, perspectives, ideas, or questions would be a great help! What is an INTP better suited to in your mind?
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    Biology would seem like the natural choice. My mom works with a lot of biologists at a research station. From what I gather it is about 20% field work 80% paperwork.

    To me though Biology to an INTP would seem more enjoyable than Psycology, but then again I am not very big on other people or their feelings.
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    Counseling is not the only aspect of psychology that you can get into. For example I am pursuing an M.S. in Human Factors Psychology. Basically it is a leveraged and concentrated form of cognitive psychology.

    The goal here would be to design computer systems for safe and reliable interaction with humans during normal interaction as well as interaction under duress. Human Factors Psychologists (or more commonly called "ergonomists" or "human factors engineers") design for automobiles, spacecraft, the military, etc.

    Another possibility would be marketing or politics. Marketing relies heavily on communication with others via advertisements and other means. This field can draw heavily from your insight if your field of expertise is in marketing psychology.

    Industrial/Organization Psychology = Efficiency/efficacy in production and interaction withing the workplace. Psychology of organized industrious efforts and institutions.

    Let us not forget that a lot of psychology has a biological/medical component to it. A lot of theories in psychology are aided by genetics.

    Do your research on careers in psychology, as well as biology. I think you will find it much easier to make a decision then.

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    I have been in the same dilemma myself, biology/ecology vs. psychology. But biology won out for me, mainly because of the feeling issues, I don't think I have enough personal connectedness to people to be a psychologist, and I didn't want to take the chance on getting into a research position. The only way I can think of combining the two fields, is to become an ecological/environmental psychologist - which I've studied a bit at uni, and it is quite interesting. Plus, it does not usually concern psychiatric pathology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowey1210 View Post
    I've had thoughts that maybe I could attempt to combine the two disciplines in some way but I'm not exactly sure how that would work and whether it would be actually beneficial within a future career?
    Neuroscience or cognitive psychology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowey1210 View Post
    Ok, basically I'm at a stage where I'm feeling like I have to flip a coin to pick between studying Biology or Psychology at University.

    On the one hand I have a definite interest in Biology, I like the idea of studying the complex system of life and exploring concepts such as evolutionary diversity, ecological influences etc. I also like the idea of having a job that contains both field observation and lab work, however I'm still don't completely know what this will entail exactly? (Any biologists out there?)

    On the other side of the coin so to speak is psychology. I've previously studied aspects of psychology at Uni and find it really stimulating. I find I'm not so concerned so much with the abnormal aspects of it, but rather like exploring how it applies in everyday life, and determines a person's personality. I've been told by people that I'm a bit of a natural at counseling type things, as I invariably attempt to read people and offer insights into how they may choose to respond to a problem. However despite this, I do invariably find the feelings aspect of such situations to be quite difficult, and as such don't think I'd be suitable to a counseling type profession. Any thoughts on INTP's as a counsellor?

    I've had thoughts that maybe I could attempt to combine the two disciplines in some way but I'm not exactly sure how that would work and whether it would be actually beneficial within a future career?

    Any thoughts, perspectives, ideas, or questions would be a great help! What is an INTP better suited to in your mind?
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    INTPs tend to be more talented at mathematics, the hard sciences and philosophy than at the humanities and the arts because they have distinct tendencies for systematic thought which is demanded in those fields. However, systematic thought is often frowned upon in the humanities and the arts because the more free-flowing, intuitive reasoning is preferred. (To exemplify this matter, consider the attitude of poets or novelists regarding the thought of physicists or mathematicians, almost doubtlessly they'd see their analytic approach to ideas as a straight-jacket.)

    Note also, as a general rule counselling is more of an NF activity than that of any type because it involves intepersonal interaction with individuals to a notable degree. INTPs may excell at this due to their tendency to be good listeners and to solve the problems of patients in therapy, however, they are likely to find this field less enjoyable than the exact sciences (and studies related to them) because therapy requires exact thinking much less than those fields.

    Biology is much closer to an empirical science than psychology and is for this reason to be preferred for an INTP. That is so because it is more objective in nature as it is concerned with studying matters that are clear-cut in nature rather than the amorphous entities psychology studies. The minds of people are not as clearly defined and investigated as biological organisms. But remember, this merely shows that you're likely more talented at biology than psychology, it does not mean that you would have an easier time in the field. It could simply be the case that the circumstances of your life were such that you have already developed more skills that are directly applicable to psychology more so than to biology and for this reason psychology may be easier.

    So, in summary, biology is in closer affinity with the INTP's natural talents and in principle if you were to study both for a long period of time you'd likely excell at biology more than at psychology, yet what you'd excell at more at this moment has more to do with extra-typological factors than typological.
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    You could always major in one and minor in the other. I'm in bio and I have a few friends with psych minors.

    It might help to look at specific careers to choose a major. You can always switch though (at the cost of using up optional courses).

    Animal behavior is one sort-of overlap in biology. Neurology/neurophysiology too.

    On the other side, there's probably more bio-based psychology fields too. Neuropsychology? Something like that. Many behavior-based studies have a biological aspect and a psychological aspect.

    edit: oh yeah, you shouldn't look at type for this. What if you're mistyped, or have atypical strengths? Look at your own, individual strengths and what you enjoy doing. Do you like watching people? nature? museums? etc.

    edit2: field work is heavy in ecology and animal behavior branches of biology. Most of the others tend to be lab-based.
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    Psychology, there are so many different fields to it, you don't have to be the one who talks with patients, you can be the one who resides in the laboratory. I myself am studying to be a Forensic Psychologist/Professor/Novelist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolitaryWalker View Post
    INTPs tend to be more talented at mathematics, the hard sciences and philosophy than at the humanities and the arts because they have distinct tendencies for systematic thought which is demanded in those fields. However, systematic thought is often frowned upon in the humanities and the arts because the more free-flowing, intuitive reasoning is preferred. (To exemplify this matter, consider the attitude of poets or novelists regarding the thought of physicists or mathematicians, almost doubtlessly they'd see their analytic approach to ideas as a straight-jacket.)
    I would have balked at this before, seeing as how I'm in a humanistic field, but my experiences delving deeper into some of the material and being expected to produce the same kind of work has revealed to me that my natural style of thinking (whatever you want to call it, it's the thing that got me through countless tests and argumentative essays without much effort for a really long time) is not automatically suited to this pursuit. I am now often sneered at for employing any logical or analytical approaches to a lot of material that we deal with, which is annoying and de-motivating to say the least (and by logical and analytical I mean breaking ideas down into their correct constitutive parts, determining contradictions in the texts, mapping out the causal, analogical, or other logical connections between concepts and then analyzing what they mean). Have you ever had anyone ask you to consider whether or not you are privileging the oppressive Western construct of the law of non-contradiction?

    Let's just say that if you're going to do any sort of critical theory work, hermeneutics, or literary analysis, then you have to turn off the deconstructive logic and turn on whatever intuitive process it is that allows for the almost endless integration of theories (take one crazy theory, find a problem with it based on your experience or intuition, and then patch it up by bringing in parts of another crazy theory that you detect a connection to, ad infinitum).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Neuroscience or cognitive psychology.
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