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    I had one good English teacher in high school. He introduced us to, "The Forsyte Saga", in class.

    We read the whole saga of three books in class one semester.

    And not only is the language beautiful but the characters live.

    I can still remember the smell of the classroom and the smell of the books and our delightfully civilized English teacher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Worse yet, I'm a college dropout, so I'm not qualified to discuss anything intelligently (apparently.) Every time I start to get close to backing her into a logical corner, I just run into the same tired rhetoric about how "Well the people who are writing these ideas have DOCTORATES and OTHER FANCY PIECES OF PAPER STATING CLEARLY THAT THEY ARE SMART, how could they possibly be wrong about this???"
    That certainly is a crock of shit, since many of the greatest minds who ever lived often lacked official credentials - but simply scribbled their own thoughts down in their spare time. Spinoza was a lens carver, and Jacob Boehme was a shoemaker for example. Rousseau was a house servant for a time I believe.

    (Note the cute parallels between this sentiment and, "Well the Bible obviously says it, so it has to be true!" from the far righters. tee hee)
    Even as a religious person I find these statements rather tiresome.

    In short, devoting your life unquestioningly to the far left is no better than devoting your life unquestioningly to the far right; the only difference is trading an elephant for a donkey.
    I agree. I despise nutjobs on both sides of the spectrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    I find that, consistently, the most intelligent people are economic moderates who take each issue on a case by case basis. My ESTJ sister is an extremely liberal English grad student, and I find myself utterly unable to discuss any politics or economics with her, because her answer is almost invariably: "You're not a SOCIALIST? IDIOT."

    haha.... the funniest part about that is, when people like your sister take such a fanatical approach to the issue, they actually make their side look all the more retarded and the opposite side attractive

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    Hmm...well most of my English teachers have been quite likable from ME. The ones in college, though, don't really teach and that tends to piss me of because tuition aint free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the soulless one View Post
    Hmm...well most of my English teachers have been quite likable from ME. The ones in college, though, don't really teach and that tends to piss me of because tuition aint free.
    I'd argue that at the college level they have simply run out of material to teach, because by God, most respectable half intelligent Americans KNOW ENGLISH AT THAT POINT. I mean hell, seriously, is there really any point to having the damn class after high school? I know how to write, I know how to speak the language, I know how to form a sentence, structure an essay, blah blah blah. This was all covered in HIGH SCRUEL (school + cruel). What is the point?! Put in some more subjects that are actually worth something. A class about how to shave my armpits would have more meaning than college level English.

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    I am currently studying to become an english teacher. I might not hold the same standards as some of you guys over there, but I live in Sweden... So it's all good

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    All the rude things to make with the title lol.

    I loved my English teachers in secondary school, they at least gave me a passion for the language and literature that accompanied it. In college not so much, I was actually in trouble alot for correcting the English teacher, until eventually they told me to come back the following year when they would have room for me in the advanced class.

    Anyway, I like strict teachers, my English teacher was strict, hence I loved my English teachers.
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    I've loved the vast majority of my English teachers, who I'm guessing were all NFs. And they've loved me. NFs love each other

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    Let me get this straight. You're basing your experiences on English teachers rather than English professors. Risen, have you ever taken a 500 or 5000 level English course in University? I think you'd be surprised at the intellectual stimulation that level provides. Philosophy and English strive for the same goal of truth using different methods. If you're about to head into University, may I suggest taking upper division classes as much as possible - whatever subject you may choose. 500/5000 level courses make University worth going to. I've had my perception greatly altered from my English classes; they provide me with narratives frames which create my view of the world. I hope you find the same in University.
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    Well, the ones in college either teach literature or they teach writing skills so it's a lot different from grade school, especially considering they attempt to 'unteach' the crap you learned in grade school that sometimes makes you a worse writer if you really follow what they teach.

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