[Athenian200]

Originally Posted by BlueWing

Thus, for this reason, the ENP is often easily able to see how the current environment could be as opposed to how it is. ENPs therefore have a natural penchant for entertaining the same notion from different perspectives. As before established by Jung, the Extroverted Intuitive type, due to the extroversion factor, depends on his immediate environment. This is where he stands in sharp contrast with the Introverted Intuiting type who may easily concoct a world of his own. An example of this type would be Nietzsche, whose vision was primarily focused on the individual and what he must do in order to accomplish his goals. An Introverted perceiver will first focus on what most piques his interest and then expand his vision further to the end of promoting the initially established agenda. Hence this is the subject oriented creation of vision. In this respect the INJ seems vertically, or in a linear fashion -- beginning at one point and envisaging how the protagonist could progress towards his path, Yet the ENP will need to have the notion of the current situation fixated, and then based on that will attempt to see what this particular entity could be like. Or what it would seem like from other perspectives. Such a type would see horizontally, or forego selecting a starting point, but leap at the scenario simultaneously. Thus, an Introverted visionary is most concerned with the path of the individual, yet the Extroverted visionary with the path of the entire scenario. A glaring example of this would be the visions of social critics like Voltaire and Bertrand Russell. Both had a clear perception of what the external world is like, not what it ought to be, and then considered how it may change. Their vision encompassed all things, and its focus was never clearly placed, hence they appeared to be everywhere and nowhere. This furthermore illustrates the lack of agenda in Extroverted Perception.

Well, actually, I can see the possibilities in a given situation. For instance, if a person jumps out of a building from the second story, there can only be a limited number of reasons...

1. They wanted to kill themselves because of suicidal depression.

2. They were paranoid because the building was on fire/collapsing/poisoned, and thought they had a better chance of surviving a fall.

3. Same as 2, but with someone inside with a weapon chasing them instead.

4. They feel like they're in danger or in a hurry, and there's an object at the bottom that will break their fall.

5. They were looking out the window, and perched on the ledge of it to get a look at something, but fell out of it.

6. Someone pushed them out.

Can Ni's normally also see the possibilities in situations, but just not as readily as Ne's?

This leads them to a peculiar position of being very comfortable giving criticism, yet themselves being intensely sensitive to the criticism of others.

They're not the only ones... I think most people are more comfortable criticizing than taking criticism. Especially if they can do so anonymously.

Such individuals will likely use their keen awareness of the external environment to simply 'pick the berries' whilst having little concern for the interest of others and even less the amelioration of the community. This once more, is an inevitable consequence of introverted judgment turned corrupt. Manipulating the external situation will be central to his interests. Extroverted Perception will give him a clear view of the 'entire board', and Introverted Thinking will allow for the ENTP to make sound logical decisions to do all that is necessary to appease the whims of his egocentric will. Such ENTPs function in this fashion because they lack a higher purpose, or they do not wish to pursue any inner virtue that transcends what befits their external environment. Accordingly they will have little interest in being as logical as possible for instance. They will only want to be logical enough to get what they are looking for in terms of external rewards.

What's wrong with this? Is there any particular logical reason a person should be more concerned with higher values and the greater good, rather than with getting what they want? I don't understand, caring about higher values and greater good sounds like a sentiment... not logic. I personally wouldn't do that because it wasn't fulfilling, but I don't think there's anything wrong with people who are only concerned about getting what they want.

There they will cease trying to be one of their personas that they've put on display for the sake of meeting a particular end of the outer world, but will then see personas as either irrelevant to who they are or merely means to the end of attunement with their inner being. An ENTP who has developed Introverted Thinking will truly be able to think for himself and his opinions will not be malleable by the prevailing attitudes of others and ideas that merely seem intuitive. Implausible ideas will be less likely to be accepted by such ENTPs as they will be subjected to the siege of their critical analysis.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you had a very high opinion of Ti... almost like you want to worship/serve it or something.

If balanced quality of the Feeling output of the ENTP may even appear to parallel that of feeling dominant or auxiliary types, yet if unbalanced the ENTP will likely plow forward with their crude value judgments expecting to receive benign results. Apparently, the ENTP appears to be much better at reading the thoughts of others rather than feeling and the Intuitive foolhardiness in regards to Feeling tends to lead to very crude blunders.

Really? In what ways?