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Originally Posted by Jennifer
Xander, I would take the general motivations of the Enneagram archetype in question (which are not function-based, they are very broad in scope) and apply them to the MBTI type you're thinking of.
What are the needs of the Five? To develop detached understanding
What are the needs of the Nine? To preserve the peace/tranquility
So filter a basic INTP who focuses on each of these and that might answer your question.
Wings can also impact the traits you transfer over. A 5w4 has the need to understand impersonally, yet the need to express that understanding in a more personal way. A 9w1 has the desire to maintain the peace, and their behavior is driven by certain philosophical/moral ideals.
(and, in reverse, the 5w4 is less concerned about peace than about expression of truth about reality; the 9w1 is more concerned about balance and peace, along with promoting their internal ideals in ways that do not destabilize the peace)
Again, how would INTP look in light of each of these? Which facets get brighter? Which are dimmed or transmogrified?
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Exactly. Always wondered why people argued against the integration of MBTI and enneagram theories. They so obviously overlap and interact it's blinding.
Right well personally I think that type 5 tends to magnify the INTP detached side and tends to suppress the open mind (well it does from an exterior viewpoint as trying to
give 5s information is like pulling teeth but they seem to go and pick it up quite merrily).
I've never considered the 9 to do much to the profile other than make it more people focused, though those people can still be selective and not include everyone
..... but I guess that's more because it's what I'm used to.
One thing that this whole investigation did turn up is that INTP 5s tend to be more passionate and less concerned with balance and objectivity than INTP 9s are (unless it's the limited group skewing the results, which is always possible in these kinds of investigations/ observations).
I have to wonder what an ISTJ 9 would be like. The ISTJ I know never considers people really unless he's feeling all ENFPish.
See now I'm wondering if there would be a pattern that would be more useful than simply dividing each type into 9 and presenting people with 144 types.