I know two male and two female ESTJs. All of them are extremely responsible and hardworking 'pillars of the community'. Three of them are of an entrepeneurial bent (organizing subcultural concerts and events), while the fourth is climbing the corporate ladder. I respect their ability to get things done and to think on their feet, and I believe they value my recognition of their achievements as well as the most practical of my stream of suggestions for improvement. Apart from that I generally* don't get along with them too well. For some reason they bring out the devil's advocate in me (other TJs don't do this); also we can mutually frustrate each other because they focus on what is practical here and now to face immediate challenges while I focus on (admittedly highly speculative) contingency planning for the future. When our perspectives
don't clash like this, however, we often see eye to eye and can even bond over our shared ruthlessness.
* The exception is one of the men who is highly intelligent and whose F is well-developed. Unfortunately, the reason why his F is well-developed (a childhood of parental guilt trips) also causes him to drown himself in responsibilities, meaning that I hardly ever get to see him.
