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I may have wrong impressions, but would like to hear more about it.

There have been female ESTJs (people i have guessed to be this type anyway) who have been very forceful and competitive with me based on personality. I didn't appreciate those experiences. If those women were pointed in the right direction, they could do really important, useful things. They had no capacity to see who i am or acknowledge my skill because i didn't force it on them the way they forced their personalities on me (and lack of skill in these particular cases).