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Old 04-23-2007, 08:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Fortunato View Post
  • Newton (INTx)
  • Galileo (ENTx)
  • Einstein (INTP)
  • Carl Sagan (INTP, probably)
  • Marie Curie
  • Da Vinci (xNTP)
  • Turner, painter
  • Giger, artist "Alien", etc (definitely N, could be NTP or NxJ)
  • Machiavelli (INTP)
  • Socrates (ENTx)

I am appauled at a lack of careful reflection in your assessments.

Machiavelly was an ENTP.

He could not have had a primary Introverted judgment, as he was twisting morality around to support his vision, as theoretical as it was.

Socrates was an INTP. Figuring things out was more important than experiencing ideas and he was observed spending hours standing still in his silent meditations. Notice how Socrates actually tried to answer the big questions by applying logic, yet Machiavelli was not interested in them, he was interested in practical ideas that support his external vision for this he was a political philosopher.

Netwon was an INTP and not an INTJ. We will see more evidence for this if we read up on his biography. Though for one being absent-minded is an INTP property not an INTJ. Ni cant focus internally as well as Ti, it will be running all over the place as it has a lot of ground to cover, Ti can focus on a small apsect easily. I once heard a story about how Newton's servant brough him lunch when he was doing his experiment, his friend showed up and hung around for over 2 hours and was completely unnoticed who then ate his food. And when Newton got through with his work he said: Wow, I would not have even known that I ate today had there not been material proof.

Galileo was much like Socrates in a sense that he was internally focused and used logic to figure out the biggest questions in life. Definitely a perceiver than a judger, you dont find too many ENTJs in science or philosophy.

ENTPs tend to be political philosophers and if metaphysicians at all they gravitate towards naturalism, they are concerned with the practical ideas more than with theoretical. They also have a penchat for chaos theories, this is how you tell an ENTP apart from an INTP, one is a very systematic thinker and the other not at all.



Hume and Dewey are excellent examples of how ENTPs gravitate towards chaos theories, Machiavelli's work outlines the way Ne tends to work in philosophy. Though the best example of an ENTP as a thinker would definitely be Voltaire who was not too concerned with deep meditation or profound insights, just with visions that can really change the external world.
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