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Old 09-29-2007, 02:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yes, there's an element of that - both of them seem to have categorised themselves as 'anti-establishment' somewhere in their teens and got into the habit of what they see as 'non-conformism', a somewhat immature interpretation of it that excludes all things that 'everyone else' does such as washing, manners and contributing to society, seeing doing these things as 'selling out'.
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