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Originally Posted by Xander
Good points about ethics and trees Wildcat. It is true that there is integration between cognitive wiring and temperament within a persons personality, I don't have much clue as to where one starts and the other ends either but I do have the nagging feeling of two sources of personality and hence why I don't take MBTI at face value any more.
It would be true to say that these ESTJs are focused on work ethics. I do not paint them in such a light as they are obsessed with their own version of ethics and hence are bad for morale and team spirit which makes us worse off as a whole.
It is good though that such differences are coming to light. I started this thread to attempt to dispel the image that all ESTJs are alike and that their behaviour is soo wonderful for business but terrible at other things. I wanted to try to investigate some of the less known facets of this type and try to round out this most two dimensional of types.
As for the classical analogy of type versus role in the army, I've heard it said that ESTJs are your sergeants. I wonder if ESTPs are the squaddies???
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I have seen a dozen or so ESTPs at a close range, because I used to frequent a coffee shop where the noble breed conglomerated.
No, Xander. The ESTPs are not cannon fodder. You have to look for the grunts elsewhere.
In fact, most of them were conscientious objectors. They never saw any barracks.
The ESTPs are fit for more enjoyable things. They love to lounge in cafes and beer halls. They read newspapers (not the sport pages) and talk about movies and books and the arts and chess and actual events.
And about women of course.